RakeInTheCache

Just noticed this category in Peer review. I have to agree with Blasterz that it should include ALL locations listed in the Australian national heritage database. I'm not sure the reasoning for excluding the overseas locations. It seems these could only make the category more global and accessible to other waymarkers. I'm afraid I'll have to abstain on this one unless all locations are included.

It looks to me like this was created for pre-recorded music but I see instrument shops are being accepted as well. I'm confused! Can anyone enlighten me?

Oh how we are waiting so impatiently to have the new icons uploaded to the site

Actually, I'm thinking about another one in which you had the number of waymarks next to the category name in parenthesis. Example (100).

There used to be a page on Waymarking.com where you could see all the categories ranked by the number of waymarks each one had. But maybe they did away with it because I don't find it anymore.

I have tried to draw one Center in red: Center in white: I prefer the Center in white what do you think? Beautiful! Either one does it for me. let's pick one and get our spiffy icon out there OK, let's go with the solid in the center, but I don't know what the next step is.

I have tried to draw one Center in red: Center in white: I prefer the Center in white what do you think? Beautiful! Either one does it for me.

Hi there, need an icon for the new Spiritual Warriors. Could someone whip up one with the Maltese cross on a red background? (like the icon for the Monks of Ware group?) I would be much obliged! RitC.

They are popping up like mushrooms in the Paris Metropolitan Area. Did not see any in West Michigan over the holidays. I too wonder if this will eventually fizzle.

Good to see we are off to a good start with all these early submissions.

I see the Latin America benchmarks category is in the same situation. I think Groundspeak is just slow to get around to activation.

It's true that the word "temple" today often refers to a Calvinist Church. Waymarkers will need to know how to tell the difference between the two usages of the name or their waymark could be declined. If I think about it, I'll change it after it gets published.

From the wikipedia page translated into English. "Rue du Temple is one of the oldest streets in Paris , between the 3rd and 4th arrondissements , in the Marais district . It is 1,335 meters long and is composed of several old ways dating for its oldest parts of the 14th century. It takes its name from the house of the Temple Parisian seat of the homonym order... " Rue du Temple owes its name to the order of the Templars , installed in the middle of the thirteenth century in this quarter known as the Temple quarter still today. "

Moving to Peer Review. Copying the category description here for retrieval in case the vote fails. Description: Identifying sites related to the history, remains and works of military chivalric orders and other warrior classes having spiritual influences and roots in Medieval history such as the Samurais. Expanded Description: Military chivalric orders were originally established as Catholic religious societies during the medieval Crusades for protection of Christians against violent persecution of the Islamic conquests (623–) in the Holy Land and the Iberian Peninsula, as well as by Baltic paganism in Eastern Europe. Most members, often titled Knights, were and still are laymen, and not prelates, yet cooperating with the clergy, sometimes even taking religious vows such as poverty, chastity, and obedience, according to monastic ideals. As such, it was in the military orders that the Medieval concept of chivalry reached its apogee in an exceptionate fusion under exceptionate circumstances of military discipline and Christian virtues. Prominent examples include the Knights Hospitaller, and the Knights Templar in Outremer, as well as the Teutonic Knights in the Baltics. A few of the institutions survived into honorific and/or charitable organisations, including the papal orders of knighthood and are active around the world. Samurai were the military nobility and officer caste of medieval and early-modern Japan. The philosophies of Buddhism and Zen, and to a lesser extent Confucianism and Shinto, influenced the samurai culture. Instructions for Posting a Legacy of Medieval Spiritual Warriors Waymark: Items which are waymarked in this category are always publically accessible and always on permanant display at a fixed location. Apart from Samurai items, the orders included in this category are listed in the following Wikipedia article ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_order_(monastic_society). Contemporary organizations allowed in this category must be included in the list of independent and semi-independent orders certified by the International Commission for Orders of Chivalry. Explicitly excluded from this category are contemporary organizations related to the Freemasons as there is already a category for Masonic Temples. As an aid in finding suitable locations outside of Europe and the Near East the following list of qualifying contemporary organizations active in other regions of the world is provided : Order of Malta Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. Order of Saint John (including St. John Ambulance locations) Items to be waymarked may include : Objects on permanent, public display (such as in museums) Locations of existing or former structures built or inhabited by the orders Emblems of the orders Locations representing acts of charity (*see below for detailed requirements) Related Battlefields Related locations of historical events Statues of member knights/samurais Memorials, monuments and historical markers mentioning an order, member of an order, or a structure inhabited or built by an order or a samurai Street names referring to an order, member of an order, or a structure inhabited or built by an order or a samurai Metro stations named after an order, member of an order, or a structure inhabited or built by an order or a samurai *When Waymarking locations related to acts of charity these must be permanant structures sheltering a benefitting organization or some kind of permanent marker or plaque in recognition of the act. If no marker or plaque is present, there must be at minimum a web link describing the relationship between the donor organization and the site. The text establishing the relationship should be copied to the long description along with an indication of the source. You must include at least one good quality photo personally taken by the waymarker indicating the object being waymarked. The description must clearly describe the connection of this site to the relavant spiritual warrior group/order. The waymark name should name the object being waymarked followed by a dash, the closest named place, followed by a comma, and the state/province/country. (Ex : Rue du Temple - Paris, France) Instructions for Visiting a Waymark in this Category: Posters must have physically visited the location. Uploading an original photo is strongly encouraged. Category Settings: Waymarks can be added to this category New waymarks of this category are reviewed by the category group prior to being published Category is not visible in the directory Variables: Name of Military Order Link documenting charitable acts

Yes, they are included.

So I have added this now to the category description. Contemporary organizations allowed in this category must be included in the list of independent and semi-independent orders certified by the International Commission for Orders of Chivalry. Explicitly excluded from this category are contemporary organizations related to the Freemasons as there is already a category for Masonic Temples. As an aid in finding suitable locations outside of Europe and the Near East the following list of qualifying contemporary organizations active in other regions of the world is provided : Order of Malta Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem. Order of Saint John And remember, you can find the web page here : http://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=01b30b3b-4ca4-4b7d-8c20-3d41ee794409&gid=6&exp=True

What if I include in the description that out-lawed activities and organizations will be excluded?

Admittedly not a particularly easy conclusion to come to, but I think as long as the currently existing organization "refers" back in some way to the Medieval incarnation, I'm willing to accept it in this category. Maybe we can reconcile the two view points if we use the variable to distinguish between the original and Freemason versions of the Knights Templar and Knights of Saint John.

I would argue that they have "inherited" the name and trappings. The association goes back to the 18th century so it's not exactly a flash in the pan. If we included it it would provide more Waymarking opportunities in locations outside of Europe and the Near East, I think without watering it down too much. Any other opinions? I could be swayed.

The order of the Knights Templar was dissolved by the pope in 1312. So whoever runs these temples, they most probably cannot count as legitimate successors of the original order. The mentioned link is the following http://www.knightstemplar.org/index.html They may not be legitimate successors but they are a part of the legacy. It is part of the later Freemasonary association which is mentioned in the Wikipedia article. The category went to officer's vote but I'm going to try to cancel it and update the description to clarify this point unless anyone objects.

The order of the Knights Templar was dissolved by the pope in 1312. So whoever runs these temples, they most probably cannot count as legitimate successors of the original order. What about this group? I'm inclined to say yes, as it seems to me to be clearly a part of the legacy.

Can you include or send me the link to the website?

Yes, this is what the category is about. Are we all good? Do we need to change the name to make it clearer? Maybe "Legacy of Medieval Spiritual Warriors"? I like that name A LOT better I find it less confusing. Done!

Yes, this is what the category is about. Are we all good? Do we need to change the name to make it clearer? Maybe "Legacy of Medieval Spiritual Warriors"?

Actually, it wasn't intended to be a joke, but maybe it needs a bit more explanation. The Salvation Army is a charitable organization who uses a military designation in its name. Wikipedia describes the organization as having a quasi-military structure. Like the Knights of Malta, for example, it brings together charitable, religious, and military themes. It seems to me like a good comparison.