RakeInTheCache
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I guess what I'm trying to say is there are strange things being done by controlling officers and I have no idea why because these officers are being silent. It's very frustrating. Leaning towards disfunctional if I may say so. It's a bit sad because it's otherwise a very interesting category.
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OK, so the plot thickens. Most of the 24 waymarks were coming from the US and Canadian version of the book. I do not have this version so as a new officer I called votes on these. I find out now that the votes have been cancelled and the waymarks don't seem to exist any more.
Marine Biologist was promoted to officer but has just quit the group without any comments.
Group Leader still incommunicado...
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3 minutes ago, bluesnote said:
The way I've been doing it is going to Amazon and using the "Look Inside" feature. That way, you don't need to have the book and it's easy to search for places or event. A downside is that not all the pages are viewable, but a good bit are. I would suggest some proof should be required when the waymark is sent either a weblink to the pages on Amazon, or like you said a photocopy of the pages if someone does have the book.
I'm doubtful whether all of the editions are still available in Amazon. Mine is 10 years old.
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Wow, 24 waymarks in the backlog!
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I'm happy to announce that I was appointed as an officer but a bit disappointed that the leader didn't reply to my personal e-mail. I sent it to the address listed in her profile. I just sent off another message with a suggestion for improving the category. Basically, it's not practical to approve these at the moment as it requires owning or having access to all the numerous editions of the book.
My idea is to change the requirements so that the waymark submitter uploads a photo/scan of the book cover, the page with the copyright, and the first page of the listing in case of a physical book, and a screen shot of the same information if the book is in electronic form.
I'm hoping for her opinion on this idea.
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Ok, I sent her an e-mail yesterday but she did not reply.
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I see the officers of
1000 Places to See Before You Die have fallen into inactivity as the last several waymarks were approved by Wayfrog. I like this category and would like to see it continue. Are there others of the same mind who would be willing to become officers.
The major question here is I am not ready to go and purchase all of the books (I have one paperback edition) so acceptance criteria is an issue.
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This has been an ongoing discussion for many years when commercial businesses began to fall out of favour. I am a leader in a certain number of these and failed once to get another one voted through. I accept that these have fallen out of fashion and in fact I mostly no longer actively contribute waymarks to them, but I am not bothered by their existence and based on submissions, others do enjoy them. As a reminder, the Waymarking site allows users to hide categories (which I have often used especially for the benchmark categories). Because of this feature, I have mostly taken an open position on the existence of these categories.
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On 7/14/2020 at 3:25 PM, iconions said:
I would have put in a statement that previously submitted waymarks are grandfathered just so there isn't confusion. That would be the only thing I would possibly add.
I think it it looks great - nice job!
Good idea. I tweeked the officer's note and added a grandfather clause.
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3 hours ago, NW_history_buff said:
I agree that the category can be subjective, even if there is an independent or 'official' reference (like a website or document) supporting a building or structure as Art Nouveau /Art Deco, or one of the sub styles that are also acceptable in the category. A link to a website or document from a local historic society or the National Register of Historic Places definitely makes a great argument for inclusion and should be taken with great merit. But sometimes a news article, blog or link to a general discussion of a building is submitted as part of the 'proof of documentation' and for these types, we officers should be more discriminating.
I guess what I'm saying is just because a waymarker submits a link to a website or document should not automatically justify an approval. And that's why categories have a voting system when those submissions become questionable.
The problem is that none of us are experts in the domain, so we cannot pretend to be able to judge the accuracy of the external reference.
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2 hours ago, bluesnote said:
I was removed from that group as an officer recently with no explanation. Would have been nice to know why prior.
I did send you the explanation.
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I'm creating this topic to allow officers to discuss certain changes to the Art Nouveau/Art Deco category. The changes have followed a vote to deny the waymark https://www.Waymarking.com/wm/add_finalize.aspx?f=1&guid=ae52d627-b07e-46ef-84fc-93263f16b654&wft=2&uid=84d86564-b60d-4b13-bdfd-775b56b785e4&st=4
As determining whether a submission fits this category can be highly subjective, I have added the stipulation that if the waymark owner is able to provide an independent reference supporting the submission, it must be accepted. This was the case to the above mentioned waymark.
Comments are welcome.
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I'm guilty of this kind of action. I did it with Artesian Wells when I took over the category. There were plenty of waymarks which were not artesian wells as a previous officer didn't know what they were and was approving ordinary wells. It bothered me that a waymarker might run across one and mistakenly believe that he/she had found an artesian well. People were not happy then either but Waymarking does allow for a waymark to be re-evaluated.
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Success! The leadership team for this category has been replaced. Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions!
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Sorry, , just realized that I have become an officer. I initiated a vote to demote the oldest inactive officer. This is the first time I've done this so let's see how it works and get the officer list down to 3 before adding new officers.
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My waymark was eventually approved by wayfrog which I am thankful for but it is truly a pity that more can't be done to save these abandoned categories.
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Next chapter, the group leader miatabug has a personal blog. I even posted my plea as a comment on his latest blog post but still no response.
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Still no reply. Looking for some help from Wayfrog.
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No reply from either of them for now. I resent a message to the leader and sent a message to another officer in the list.
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Both leader and officer are for the moment incommunicado.
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No word from the leader. Just sent of an e-mail to the officer who last logged into Waymarking (last September) to ask that he start a vote to promote me to an officer. Let's see if that brings any results.
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Groundspeak Admin has been approving the waymarks in this category since late 2018. Just sent an e-mail to the leader to see if they would hand over leadership. Any other suggestions about how to revive the leadership of this category?
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On 12/24/2019 at 2:44 PM, Torgut said:
I see people write in this topic like, "no, no, I like WM more than GC" and so... well, that's clear. You are here. There a few dozen. One hundred? Not much more. In the whole world. That's the point for reflection.
Maybe 100 creating waymarks but many more visiting them. I get visit notifications nearly every day.
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Are you a member of the group? If so, maybe you can ask the leader to promote you to officer. Then the leader could resign and I think designate you as the new leader. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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1000 Places to See Before You Die Languishing
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Still scratching my head about the vote cancellations. I still see the votes as active on the site but here is a copy of one of the e-mails I received. Not sure if it's a technical issue or the result of an action taken by the leader..