SandyCreekPirates
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Is it possible that other GPSr units read differently than mine? Sure, it is.
yeah but they shouldn't differ significantly.
when someone else is getting coords "way off" while you're certain that they are not, chances are the reason for this is a different datum, such as WGS84 vs NAD27.
Well put! I don't recall anyone actually putting a number on their "way off" diagnosis, so it might not actually be that far off.
Like I said before, as long as my GPSr takes me directly go GZ, the coordinates will stand.
From this page http://www.bivouac.com/PgxPg.asp?PgxId=210:
There is about a 200m difference, depending on the datum. The two main datums in Canada are WGS84 and NAD27. "NAD27" means "North American Datum 1927". "WGS 84" means "World Geodetic System 1984". Eventually all maps will be WGS84, because it is based on satelite measurements. However, most Canadian topographic maps are still NAD27. The difference can be as much as 200 meters, depending on your location.So if your using NAD27 to get your coords, you would leave the coords as is even though everyone else is using WGS84? Would you at least post in your clues that you are using NAD27 coords?
That's a non-issue. I'm using WGS84. Plus, I'm in the US. Do you post in your clues that you use WGS84?
*Edited to say that the link doesn't work on my end.*
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Is it possible that other GPSr units read differently than mine? Sure, it is.
yeah but they shouldn't differ significantly.
when someone else is getting coords "way off" while you're certain that they are not, chances are the reason for this is a different datum, such as WGS84 vs NAD27.
Well put! I don't recall anyone actually putting a number on their "way off" diagnosis, so it might not actually be that far off.
Like I said before, as long as my GPSr takes me directly go GZ, the coordinates will stand.
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I currently have 22 published cache pages. On four of these, I have been told a few times that the coordinates are way off. However, when I go to check, my GPSr hits zero within 3 feet of the cache.
I ran into a fellow cacher once while out for cache maintenance on one of these caches. Now, he has a similar GPSr to the one I have (same brand, different model) and after he made the find, we compared numbers. Both of our GPSr units were showing zero at the same spot... within arm's reach of the cache.
Do I have a top of the line GPSr? Nope.
Is it possible that other GPSr units read differently than mine? Sure, it is.
Will I be changing the coordinates of these caches? Not as long as my GPSr takes me directly to ground zero.
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Yes. Why don'twe all just pull out a gun whenever we feel threatened?
In case you people don't already know this, you aren't allowed to shoot someone just because they hit you with their fist. In fact, I have a relative who is in jail for pointing a gun at someone who was physically accosting his wife.
Around here, with a concealed weapons permit you can inform the individual that you have a gun on you and that you would like the situation to cease, but that you are willing to reveal the weapon if the problem does not stop. Then you have the right to remove your weapon and remind the individual that you will fire if they do not back off. After that, it's any man's game.
Fair enough in my opinion. I'm not trigger happy, nor do I ever wish to shoot anyone, but I DO like to have the upper hand if a bad situation arises. Call me crazy...
And, for those who say (not necessarily in this forum) that you don't need to carry a gun if you stay out of questionable places... what is questionable? A bad situation can arise anywhere. In recent years we had a string of churches around here fall victim to robbery, theft and vandalism.
Now, who among us would consider a place that is generally seen as a safe haven to be a questionable area? I'm not a church-goer, but I would never even think about conducting any wrong-doing in a place that, at least, teaches a pretty solid set of morals.
Food for thought!
this would help in a great deal of FTF confrontations.... "please step out of GZ, i have a concealed weapon and am willing to use it to defend my rights to a FTF"
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No matter what you do you won't get the characters to display on paperless handheld GPS devices.
don't be so sure. my PDA opens the cache descriptions in a web browser and shows all HTML content. it doesn't show japanese because it doesn't have the appropriate font, but it would if it had. it displays many other unicode characters just fine.
That's a device that has GPS capability. My phone would add the characters also, or an image for that matter.
I was specifically referring to handheld GPS (only) devices.
Not positive, but I don't think that's a requirement. Sounds like a puzzle cache, so it would make sense to work on the puzzle before attempting the cache anyway. My guess is that, unless fluent in Japanese, most people would have to do a little research on translating Japanese to their respective language. In this case, they should have access to a device that would display the characters.
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Yes. Why don'twe all just pull out a gun whenever we feel threatened?
In case you people don't already know this, you aren't allowed to shoot someone just because they hit you with their fist. In fact, I have a relative who is in jail for pointing a gun at someone who was physically accosting his wife.
Around here, with a concealed weapons permit you can inform the individual that you have a gun on you and that you would like the situation to cease, but that you are willing to reveal the weapon if the problem does not stop. Then you have the right to remove your weapon and remind the individual that you will fire if they do not back off. After that, it's any man's game.
Fair enough in my opinion. I'm not trigger happy, nor do I ever wish to shoot anyone, but I DO like to have the upper hand if a bad situation arises. Call me crazy...
And, for those who say (not necessarily in this forum) that you don't need to carry a gun if you stay out of questionable places... what is questionable? A bad situation can arise anywhere. In recent years we had a string of churches around here fall victim to robbery, theft and vandalism.
Now, who among us would consider a place that is generally seen as a safe haven to be a questionable area? I'm not a church-goer, but I would never even think about conducting any wrong-doing in a place that, at least, teaches a pretty solid set of morals.
Food for thought!
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Get a gun ....
NOT good advice.
Horrible advice since the adults could get separated again, get two guns.
Yup!
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I have put together the back end for a cache (or series of caches?) that would be immersive in nature.
I thought about doing this via Wherigo, but decided that was fairly pointless.
This cache could be completed 1 of 2 ways. The basic premise is this:
(Option 1 - Payphones with which I have no affiliation) The cacher receives a telephone number and a set of coordinates via the cache page. The coordinates take the cacher to a pay phone, where they call the number provided. The setup I have created allows a recording to be played when a specific caller-ID is received. The cacher would be pulled into a cache with a story line. The cacher would be the central character. Instructions would be given on how to proceed to the next part of the story. Several stages would require using different payphones at different locations to receive further instructions.
(Option 2, for those who don't want to use Payphones) The cacher receives a telephone number and a set of coordinates via the cache page. The coordinates take the cacher to a pay phone, where they must locate a micro cache which contains a password. They send an SMS with their cell phone to the provided phone number, where they are entered into the story line and receive instructions. Several text messages would be sent throughout the adventure, each requiring the finding of a micro near a payphone to get the SMS password.
Whether you choose option 1 or option 2, the stages are the same. The same cache could then be played two different ways.
Because of the way I have set it up, it's actually almost interactive, since you become part of a storyline and must complete some task to receive the next set of instructions.
I have all of it working - the per-caller-id recordings and the SMS responses when passwords are provided. Now I just need to make sure that the cache would meet guidelines. I'm guessing the payphone option would be borderline, but the SMS would seem to be ok. I could drop the payphone option, but I feel like listening to a mysterious voice over the phone would be much more immersive than a text message.
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tl;dr? - I want to set up a cache where the user has the option of using payphones to complete or sending text messages and want to know if it would violate any guidelines I'm not aware of.
Sounds like a great idea to me! I would think that most people pick and choose the caches that they search for, as it has been made painfully clear in these forums that those that despise micros (not me) don't go after them. In my (amateur) opinion, if someone reads the cache page and does or doesn't want to move forward, that's their decision to make.
I also feel this way about locationless caches, but that's a topic for another thread...
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In Tennessee they are not only not allowed, but "to play at any game or amusement" is a Class E felony. Here is the relevant text:
Tennessee Cemetery & Burial Site Laws
Statutory Laws
(Tennessee Code Annotated)
Title 46. Cemeteries
46-2-105. Crimes and offenses
No person shall willfully destroy, deface, or injure any monument, tomb, gravestone, or other structure placed in the cemetery, or any roadway, walk, fence or enclosure in or-around the same, or injure any tree, plant or shrub therein, or hunt or shoot therein, play at any game or amusement therein, or loiter for lascivious or lewd purposes therein, or interfere, by words or actions, with any funeral procession or any religious exercises.
(A violation of this section is a Class E felony, punishable by 1 to 6 years in jail and a fine not to exceed $3,000)
We were in Tennessee weekend before last. Did some caching while there. From what we saw, there are a LOT of caches in cemeteries where we were. We did a little night caching and skipped over all of the cemetery caches simply because of the implications that can be made when someone is in a cemetery at night.
Glad we skipped them!
Being from SC, I can assure you that the reviewer here will NOT allow caches anywhere near a cemetery. Even stages of a multi that are simply to gather information are not allowed. This is what I was told by the reviewer.
It all has something to do with a bit of legislation that would make it illegal to operate a GPSr on any historical grounds. These grounds included, among other things, cemeteries and, theoretically, could have been adapted by the state to include whatever they wanted.
Members of local geocaching associations sat with legislators and made an agreement to keep geocaching out of the area the lawmakers specified and the lawmakers would let the bill die. Again, this is what I understand from the SC reviewer.
Hence, there is no ACTUAL legislation, but geocaching folks in SC like to keep the status quo and stay on the state house's good side.
Once more, I am in now way an authority... this is just what I have understood from past conversations and emails.
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Yeah... so... umm... this is strange! I just stopped by yesterday to check out a possible cache location and it seems like a pretty cool spot for a cache. Still in the planning stages as of today.
This evening I see a thread on these forums entitled "So where's your cache centroid?" and I have to check it out. Went through the steps to find my centroid... it's about 550 feet from the cache location I just scoped out yesterday.
Gotta put one there now!
Now, to come up with a theme that goes along with the spookiness of this whole scenario...
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Yeah... so... umm... this is strange! I just stopped by yesterday to check out a possible cache location and it seems like a pretty cool spot for a cache. Still in the planning stages as of today.
This evening I see a thread on these forums entitled "So where's your cache centroid?" and I have to check it out. Went through the steps to find my centroid... it's about 550 feet from the cache location I just scoped out yesterday.
Gotta put one there now!
Now, to come up with a theme that goes along with the spookiness of this whole scenario...
Edit: Oh, and my centroid... on the grounds of a monastery.
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One would think so, but by the other threads, if only one climbed the proverbial tree then only one can claim the find.
I'm sure that all 4 didn't "find" each cache. So, only one person found it, averaging out to 141.5 finds per person, though all "visited" the cache, assuming the driver got out each time...
So, does that mean that if I go out with a caching buddy and we find 1 cache, only the person who actually finds the cache gets credit? If so, that doesn't seem right since we both contributed to the cause of finding the cache. If not, then your statement is based on the number of caches found, and that isn't right because it shouldn't matter if it's one cache or 1000... the rule should apply the same either way.
These guys are soaring on their achievement... don't bring them down.
I say CONGRATULATIONS!
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I usually just put a $5 bill for a regular hide for FTF.
I have one puzzle that has a $100 bill for FTF and nice prizes for 2nd 3rd and 4th too[it is currently unfound]
What's the GC#?
I get 15% commission for that, right?
You got it!
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I usually just put a $5 bill for a regular hide for FTF.
I have one puzzle that has a $100 bill for FTF and nice prizes for 2nd 3rd and 4th too[it is currently unfound]
What's the GC#?
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The WalMarts in my area have a small watertight container very similar to a lock n lock that comes with about a 2 inch nylon strap attached with a carabiner on the end and it makes a great cache container. They are located in the camping section.
I have one of those as an existing cache container... very nice containers!
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I just put one out in a small black nylon mesh bag with a drawstring closure (I wanted dark green, but couldn't find one). It's in a small, bushy evergreen tree, and I'm hoping that people will leave it in the tree, and just take the container out. I've only had one finder, so I still don't know how well the hide will work out, here's hoping.
I've come across something very similar... they can be tricky hides.
However, the one I found was about 12 feet up the tree.
Just my input.
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I think that you read to much into the log. Live and let cache I say. At least they found it and logged it.
I think that there is to much angst in the forums.
I think (but I hope not) that this might cause some angst for the OP.
I think that a better question is what do you believe.
No angst here. You have made your point in a courteous manner, as all correspondence should be.
Oh, and I believe that I like hiding caches. Therefore, I'm gonna keep doing what I do.
Thanks!
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You think the log on 3/21 was a reference to the log on 3/26?
I would think so, but that particular cacher and I have a mutual friend and I know that the two of them actually do love nanos.
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We're dealing with the same thing, but it isn't our first time. It's just part of the game. There are people out there that can't resist messing up something that belongs to somebody else. I don't understand it, but I have to accept it. I have temporarily disabled the cache and I'll be finding a (hopefully) more hidden spot and replacing my cache soon... hope you'll do the same.
Del
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That's what I thought. This cache is a nano container, not a leaky altoids tin or film canister. I have never used anything like that for my caches. Only waterproof containers here. I did have one match holder that leaked a bit, but I suspect the lid just had not been tightened by a cacher, as when I did maintenance I could tell that the log had been damp in spots, but the seal was intact and the log was dry.
The nano in question is an EASY traditional with no twist whatsoever. I have placed four of this style of cache to offset the 17 difficult puzzle caches that I have placed in the same 10 or so square miles. Some people enjoy the hard ones and some enjoy the easy ones. Therefore, in trying to keep everyone in mind, I am on a streak of placing easy caches for those who don't like the puzzles.
But, I digress...
Thought I was overreacting, but wanted to get some feedback. Like I said, I am generally optimistic and would like to keep it that way.
Thanks,
Del
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This is a recent "found it" post by a cacher that found one of my caches.
"quick find love this containers NOT TFTC SL"
Now, I am usually an optimistic person and the other logs on this cache have been anything but negative, but the big "NOT" at the end is typically indicative of negative sarcasm on the part of the user. However, the cacher DID finish his/her post with a thank you. Am I just being touchy, or was this cacher rude?
Del
SandyCreekPirates
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As a matter of fact, the marker was found near an entrance to The Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Guess this confirms the suspicions.
In case anyone is ever nearby and interested in seeing it for yourself, the coordinates for the marker are:
N 35 42.367
W 83 31.370
Thanks,
Del
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WOW! I'll get it all in here sooner or later! Here's the pic that should have been in the first post...
http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/displa...8ee551f8573.jpg
Thanks!
Del
SandyCreekPirates
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Whoops! Forgot to say that I searched the coordinates that we recorded and the closest benchmark listed is 0.2 miles away.
Thanks,
Del
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