Dr.MORO
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2 hours ago, arisoft said:
A GPX file dowloaded from geocaching.com starts with this statement
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
This means that the file is using UTF-8 which contains the emoji block. My own device is using a pocket query GPX file for all solved mystery caches and it displays emojis correctly for them. There is no problem with the schema or file.
Which GPS device do you use?
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Hi all, and thanks for all the input so far.
My initial question is about GPSr and Emojis, but I know this all goes even further into a rabbit hole of UTF-codes and Unicode versions, as well as other languages.
On a side note, I have already proven that a simple Emoji character input into Google Earth Pro Mac desktop app, will corrupt the myplace.kml file as posted on Google forum.
Google forum "Warning! Emojis corrupt my places KML file in desktop Google Earth Pro?"
To me, many things related to GPX files, Google Earth Kml files, and GPSr, including Geocaching, has NOT caught up with the newer character codings which is seemingly changing even faster with newer Emojis and such being added every year or so.
Perhaps, the GPX file schema 1.1 is becoming outdated, and is incompatible with the Emojis characters from the start?
In any case, I have received another reply from Garmin to my questions:
Q: Is there any Garmin handheld GPS device sold today that is compatible, and displays Emoji characters properly on-screen? If so, please specify the model.
A: There are none that are available at this time.
Q: If not, then is there any future plans at Garmin to have these Garmin handheld GPS devices become compatible with Emoji characters?
A: As for any known plans I have not heard anything about the emojis. I would recommend to follow the link below to our idea page and submit this as the more people request certain things the higher the chance of getting these type features added.
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/ideas/
I am wondering what GCHQ is thinking about the Emoji issue in GPX files as Geocache names and in the logs.
Not worried?
Or, planning for a change?
The rabbit hole continues...
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Hi all again!
Ok, just started a new tread in the GPS forum, to consolidate what is known, and not, about this Emoji issue.
I will post in this new tread from now on, although will be 'watching' this one as well.
Thanks!
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Hi all again!
Ok, just started a new tread in the GPS forum, to consolidate what is known, and not, about this Emoji issue.
I will post in this new tread from now on, although will be 'watching' this one as well.
Thanks!
Emojis, GPS receivers, and GPX files
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Hi all,
Quick question: Does your handheld GPS device (excluding smartphones) properly show Emoji characters on-screen?
Why ask?
Well, my trusty Garmin Oregon 450 does NOT show Emojis contained within the Geocaching GPX files, and Garmin confirms "The device does not support the use of emoji characters." when asked.
Are Emojis playing nice with your GPSr, and GPX files?
Or, is it an issue to be solved somehow (New GPX scheme? New GPSr?), being in a Geocaching era of Emojis and smartphones?
Which handheld GPS device do you use for Geocaching, and does it show Emojis properly on-screen?
Looks for some answers...
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Hi all,
FYI, Emoji talk tread is also here, which I probably will post from now on, but not here.
Forum link "Emojis in Cache Names"
Thanks!
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Hi all,
I just received a reply from Garmin International Product Support - Outdoor Team, after asking whether GPX files with Emojis are supported with my Garmin Oregon 450 GPS device.
Official Answer: "The device does not support the use of emoji characters."
Oh dear...
GPX file are NOT meant to contain Emojis in the first place, I guess.
Yet, GCHQ and geocaching GPX files started to include Emojis anyways, and now facing the unwelcome consequences from this.
I will reply to their message and ask whether newer Garmin handheld GPS devices support Emojis or not.
And if not, are they going to support Emojis in the near future, or not.
More to follow...
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Thanks everyone for your input.
Looks like Emoji IS a major unsolved widespread issue with GPX file format, and the devices and softwares that use them.
Of course, also an unpleasant problem for us Geocachers as well.
Needs some kind of fundamental fix to deal with them, as they will not go away, rather the number of Emoji characters are growing every once in a while.
I have just tried an Emoji character containing GPX file with Garmin BaseCamp for Mac software, and results were interesting.
On the map display, Emojis are just bank characters (NOT displayed at all), while if I double-click the geocache on the maps, within the window the Emojis are all properly showing as intended. Weird...
I wonder what GCHQ developers, and other GPSr manufacturers are doing to deal with Emojis?
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23 minutes ago, RecipeForDisaster said:
An eTrex 20 displays a completely blank title if the cache name is an emoji. Worse, weird stuff happens... for instance, if you are able to figure out which cache it really is, once logged as found on the eTrex, you can't see any evidence of it ever having been there. There's no open treasure chest and the cache isn't in the found list even as a blank title. That's the newest device I have... until later today! We have many caches with emojis for titles.
Thanks local New England geocacher RecipeForDisaster!
Now I wonder if there are ANY handheld GPSr out there that shows Emojis properly on-screen, other than smartphones.
Anyone?
List so far:
Shows proper Emojis:
- ?
Ignore Emojis:
- Garmin eTrex 20
- Garmin Oregon 450
- Garmin Oregon 700
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21 hours ago, barefootjeff said:
Just took a look on my Oregon 700 on a cache that had a recent log containing an emoji and the Garmin just ignores it.
Thanks, barefootjeff!
Now I wonder if there are ANY handheld GPSr out there that shows Emojis properly on-screen, other than smartphones.
Anyone?
List so far:
Shows proper Emojis:
- ?
Ignore Emojis:
- Garmin eTrex 20
- Garmin Oregon 450
- Garmin Oregon 700
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Hi!
Searched for any topics on GPX and Emoji, and found this old tread.
I will try to post in other treads I've found, to collect information about issues on GPX files and Emojis.
Sorry for the multi-tread posting.
I have recently noticed that a single Emoji within the GPX file, whether in the geocache name or in the log, when imported into Google Earth Mac desktop app would corrupt the saved myplaces.kml file. Actually, this may be a n issue with Google Earth Mac desktop app, as adding just an Emoji to the Google Earth Mac desktop app will corrupt the saved myplaces.kml file even without a GPX file import, as I've posted here on Google Earth forum.
"Warning! Emojis corrupt my places KML file in desktop Google Earth Pro?"
Also, the Emojis will not show up at all in older Garmin devices like my trusty Oregon 450. Yes, I know it's time to upgrade my GPSr, but not even sure if Emojis in GPX files will properly show up on-screen with the latest Garmin GPSr devices. Can anyone confirm that GPX files with Emojis are properly displayed on newer GPSr devices?
Any input would be welcome!
Thanks!
~ Dr.MORO
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On 5/23/2013 at 4:39 PM, Moun10Bike said:
I did some investigation of this last week and determined that the iPhone app is allowing users to enter "Emoji" emoticons into their logs. These are not getting properly parsed and end up as unrecognizable characters on the web site in most browsers. The bigger problem is that these characters are also breaking the GPX encoding, leading to problems with POI loaded and GPS units.
The team is working on a fix to prevent this from happening.
Hi!
Searched for any topics on GPX and Emoji, and found this old tread.
I will try to post in other treads I've found, to collect information about issues on GPX files and Emojis.
Sorry for the multi-tread posting.
I have recently noticed that a single Emoji within the GPX file, whether in the geocache name or in the log, when imported into Google Earth Mac desktop app would corrupt the saved myplaces.kml file. Actually, this may be a n issue with Google Earth Mac desktop app, as adding just an Emoji to the Google Earth Mac desktop app will corrupt the saved myplaces.kml file even without a GPX file import, as I've posted here on Google Earth forum.
"Warning! Emojis corrupt my places KML file in desktop Google Earth Pro?"
Also, the Emojis will not show up at all in older Garmin devices like my trusty Oregon 450. Yes, I know it's time to upgrade my GPSr, but not even sure if Emojis in GPX files will properly show up on-screen with the latest Garmin GPSr devices. Can anyone confirm that GPX files with Emojis are properly displayed on newer GPSr devices?
Any input would be welcome!
Thanks!
~ Dr.MORO
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Just noticed this issue myself, and came to check the forum. Indeed just not me.
I wonder when this started to happen? Definitely not like this before, properly in order of time uploaded, or the date this has been changed by poster.
GCHQ? Any word?
Please fix this ASAP!!!
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On 2018/6/3 at 3:46 PM, NYPaddleCacher said:
Okay, you all should have the Kenya flag on your flag counter now.
YES, thank you very much for the Kenya as my 49th flag!
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On 2018/5/31 at 10:35 PM, Dr.MORO said:
Awesome!!! Thanks NYPaddleCacher!
As I mentioned, currently on my way to the land of the rising sun, so I will visit others' profile here, just in case.
Safe travels!
AND just visited profiles of everyone on this tread, from Japan.
Enjoy!
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2 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:
Hey all flag counters.
Look for a flag from Kenya this weekend (Sunday). I'm arriving late Saturday night but will get online on Sunday and visit the profiles from those that have posted here.
Awesome!!! Thanks NYPaddleCacher!
As I mentioned, currently on my way to the land of the rising sun, so I will visit others' profile here, just in case.
Safe travels!
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13 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:
After several delays I finally got confirmed dates for a trip to Kenya and have already booked my flights. I'll hit up profiles here when I'm in Kenya from June 3rd until the 11th. Maybe this time I can remember to visit my own profile so that I can add a Kenyan flag to my flag counter.
Awesome! Look forward to seeing the Kenya flag added to my Flag Counter in June.
BTW, if anyone here does not have the Japanese flag, I can add it to you in about a month.
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GCHQ Hampsters fed and up running again!
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3 hours ago, sloth96 said:
May fortune favor the engineers.
Truly.
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Same here, no go, mission abort...
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16 minutes ago, LTF1971RFF1960 said:
Also no souviners yet
Nope, and Nope...
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1 hour ago, SnowstormMK said:
Thank you all for your patience. We have deployed a fix to the scoring bug, it is now working as intended. Souvenirs that would have been earned based on the correct point value will be applied retroactively, but it will take some time before you will see them on your profile.
Happy hunting!
Nope, not fixed yet, I think.
Only the geocaches found AFTER the fix are correctly awarded points, none BEFORE the fix are corrected to reflect the proper amount.
Also, I too am missing my first Earth souvenir from my profile.
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On 2018/3/5 at 1:03 PM, NYPaddleCacher said:
I think I hit all the profiles for those that have posted here. You all should have Cuba on your flag counter now.
YES!!! Thanks you so much! 48th County on my Flag Counter!
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14 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:
I don't have the specific dates confirmed but confidence in going in late January has gone up since my last post. I'm working on a project with an organization in Narobi and the contractual agreement now specifically include a budget line for me to travel there. There are some really good airfares from NYC to Nairobi right now too (less than $700 r/t). I just need to remember to get onto the forums and visit this sub-forum while I'm there.
Yes, African country flags, please!
Emojis, GPS receivers, and GPX files
in GPS technology and devices
Posted · Edited by Dr.MORO
Mobile phones are NOT in question here, hence my initial question says 'excluding smartphones'.
The smartphone OS and it's app can handle the Emoji characters.
I am asking about handheld GPS receivers here, the ones for outdoors hiking and such like from Garmin, etc.