northernpenguin

Look mate the Etrex only reads map *.img files, for the Etrex to read a map *.img from the SD card you have to create a MAP folder and put it in that. It's very simple and safe... ...then it works. No it goes in the "Garmin" folder on the device or memory card. Creating a folder called "MAP" will not work. However you may be referring to the \Garmin folder as "the folder that contains the maps" perhaps? All .IMG files go in \Garmin

Not likely. Little bit of trivia though - HERE maps are Nokia/Navteq, which is the data source for Garmin CityNavigator products. You won't get the 3D buildings but it's an eTrex x0 series - the processor in that isn't really designed for high performance, it's designed for long running time with two AA batteries.

Might be time to update the forum schedule. Not sure if there's any room on the Tuesday slot for "Promote own outdated book" though.

Fixed it for you. GPS is like a Jeep. It helps you get farther from help before you know what you are doing. Every single time I enter the backcountry I have a paper map and compass. Even when we have twelve GPS units in the group. Nevermind your handheld unit, there are times (very rare) where the GPS system itself is unavailable.

With a name like Part 3.exe, I have to ask, did this file come from Garmin.com or another source?This is a very unusual naming convention for Garmin's Topo products (but very common on some map piracy sites ....)

Yup it will route like a car gps (Settings→Routing→Car/Motorcycle). Be advised the unit will not "talk" it can only "beep" and the screen is pretty small for automotive navigation.

I'll chime in on this part. Really these GPS or Phone CHOOSE ONE type discussions are a little silly anyway. It's like the old "would you rather be stuck on an island without a canoe or stuck in a canoe with no sight of land" type discussions. I use a smartphone (iPhone 5s), a tablet (iPad Mini LTE) and a Garmin eTrex 30 for caching AND for backcountry travel. I like the iPhone for urban caching a lot - I don't have to go through the effort of firing up the laptop, downloading caches to GSAK, exporting the caches to the GPS before I run out and play. When I'm in the backcountry though, I am travelling 8-10 hours a day in areas with little cellular coverage. Powering that iPhone display takes a lot of juice, as does the GPS function.... yes I can mitigate that, and I have the ability to charge all my toys - phone, iPad, GPS - using a solar kit that I own and bring. Still though, the eTrex gets the mount on the thwart of my canoe because two AA batteries will provide navigation for about three days of travel for me. When you're portaging the batteries that sort of thing matters. I still have the iPad on the trip as I can read books on it and well hey looking at a digital topo map (at base camp) on a 7.9" screen is just more pleasant. The answer for the geocacher in 2014 is not to choose "GPS or Phone". Let's be honest here, the question is not relevant in most areas that the question is even being asked your average high activity player in a G8 nation has both. The people that can't afford both know exactly what they are going to buy - either a smartphone with a data plan makes sense (for more than just geocaching) (they likely bought this before they learned about this game) or if the hypothetical person benefits more from a single rugged device without a monthly fee they are buying a GPS.

.... or pretty much you revert to the same thing the person that picked the 62s has to do. Figure out where you are going and load the caches/maps beforehand. I just had a canoe trip to the remote parts of the Adirondacks and I loaded 5400 caches onto my iPhone with L4C (all the caches in the area and along the planned routes to / from). In this case the phone was actually better than the GPS even though I had no coverage, as my GPS maxes out at 5,000 caches (unlimited POIs) while my iPhone can have tens of thousands of full cache descriptions. Lifeproof case kept the iPhone happy and the solar charger I brought kept the iPhone powered up. I should note, however, that the core navigation was on my eTrex.

I just cross checked the OP's route against OSM map and tested on my eTrex. First off, the version of the map I tested with is slightly newer than what the OP is using so that may be a factor. I was unable to replicate the result of the car routing down the trail on my GPS. The GPS routing a pedestrian/bike via the road makes sense if you pull up the area in the OSM Map Editor - the destination point is near a bridge and the map does not have an intersection node between the road and the trail at that point as the trail is below the road grade. My suggestion to the OP at the moment is to re test using the OSM generic routable new (CA-ON_10-08-2014) map that is the current download as of today. It seems to work fine on my eTrex 30 in Car/Motorcycle, Pedestrian and Bicycle routing modes from what I can tell. If in doubt about a specific route, load up the OpenStreetMap editor and check the nodes along the route to see if there is a turn restriction or node disconnect (ie bridge). Big thank you to the OP for posting that long filenames fix for sticky maps on profile change.... I tend to be wordy with my map names since I switch often and that bug has been biting me.

Technically I'm in Georgetown so it would be "basically in the county next to northernpenguin..." but yes pretty close by ~ 12km or so. I still want to know if the OSM maps came from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl or some other site so I can load the same map and see what's up. Since I'm in the OP's area it would also be helpful to know which trail they are trying to route around so I can look right there. Also, OP - tooting my own horn here but http://torontogeocaching.com/trailmaps ...

I guess the question is, where did the OP get the OSM maps from (which website). Perhaps it is a site specific or location specific problem to the OP's area.

As I said above, if OSM is using say Major Highway to show a biking trail vs hiking trail then the eTrex is going to think that is a road. You can change how the lines display on the GPS with a Custom TYP file.

OSM Routing on a mobile phone is a completely different beast altogether. The mobile phone is most likely NOT using the Garmin IMG format or rendering engine. This particular discussion pertains to using OSM maps on a specific Garmin handheld device, which cannot have the routing engine swapped out. I have several OSM apps for my iPhone which work happily, and using OSM on a MacBook Pro also routes properly but that doesn't help the OP at all.

Scenario: You're caching with both your phone and your GPS. You drop the GPS in a stream, quickly grabbing it back out. Can you still make a phone call?? Try the above scenario only drop your phone. The answer to the question changes. Which is less expensive to replace? Phone is inside a Lifeproof case. Answer no longer changes. Hell I use my iPhone for underwater photography from time to time.

Another question. Which firmware version are you running on the eTrex 30 ? Are you running the most current (3.90 at this time) or an earlier one? The fact that Basecamp routes properly while the GPS does not, is an interesting one. "Avoid unpaved roads" is only going to work if the trails are tagged as unpaved road (linetype 0x000a Unpaved Road) in the Garmin IMG file. If it's tagged as a trail (linetype 0x0016 Walkway/Trail) and has routable information, that does not match the "avoid unpaved roads" rule and will still be considered for routing the GPS is not smart enough to realize that you mean to include Walkway/Trail in the Unpaved Roads setting unfortunately. It's probable the Basecamp code simply ignores trails for routing when set to a vehicular type route, while the GPS doesn't have that particular code (and being primarily a hiking/recreational GPS vs automotive with a small amount of working RAM, I can sort of see some logic to this but wait, see below!). Since City Navigator NT does not include routing information on trails that I am aware of - in fact I don't recall seeing trails at all on that map set - the problem doesn't occur when using that - primarily automotive use - map set. Now, I'm aware that Garmin's Topo Canada v4 has routing information on roads, and also has trails, so I felt this would be an interesting map set to test - to see if my eTrex 30 will avoid routing on trails. Here's my result: Basecamp works properly when toggled between "Hiking" vs "Driving". Fired up my eTrex 30 and setup the same route - Guidance On Road for Time, Car/Motorcycle it took the roads. Pedestrian took the hiking trail. So it seems to work without major fiddling on my part. So I'm curious how the trail is identified in the OSM IMG file. If they got clever on the OSM map (like I did with the Ontario Trails Project map) and used road types with a custom TYP file to distinguish major and minor trails for example, the GPS is not going to figure this out - all the trails will appear as roads to the GPS. If they actually used the Walkway/Trail linetype for all the trails then something more interesting is happening here, and it's most likely inside the OSM IMG file itself, not the GPS.

GSAK to iCaching here. Well trying to. Things I like about iCaching: - Native Mac OS App. No more Parallels. - Can load up database with Geocaching Live and PQs - See everything on a map Things I don't like about iCaching: - Much more difficult to load my GPS with caches as GPX and child waypoints as POI. Still possible, but I'm stuck with doing two filters and two loads instead of one button GSAK Macro to do this. This is more a thing that bugs me because I got used to loading it a certain way with GSAK. Someone starting today unlikely to care. - Pocket Queries page does not have a "Download All" or "Download All New" option. If I just go down the list when set to "Download through File" and mash "Download, Download, Download" it downloads then ignores the downloaded files. So I have to hit "Download" wait. wait. wait. Pick next file, hit "Download" wait. wait. wait. With GSAK I hit "Download all" get a coffee, then come back and load the GPS. Alternatively I can switch it to use "Download through API" setting in which case a 1000 cache PQ takes about 12 minutes to process. Multiply that times 10 PQs for the day and it becomes more time effective to fire up Parallels and load using GSAK. - Crashes on GPX file imports. A lot. - No option to filter per ARC/GPX file for loading along a route - Database engine seems slower

Looking at the comments here are misleading. If a change is made that you don't care about or like, you are unlikely to go to the forum and post about it. If there is a change that you hate, then you're more likely to be vocal about it. When you buy a product and it works as advertised, do you ever send an email to the company saying you like the product? Probably happens very seldom. If you buy a product and hate it, you are very likely to complain about it via email or a company's forums (if they have one.) Making generalizations that say "MOST" are not pleased because of comments here are incorrect, unless you are saying MOST that comment here are not pleased, in which case I'd agree. I think most people in the geocaching world probably don't care. On the other hand if I buy a Keurig coffee maker and use it to make coffee every morning then it stops one day and complains about the water you bet I am writing/calling Keurig to complain. Now when Keurig says "we have no plans to address this, instead we recommend you start a fire, fill a pot with water, boil the water and pour that into your Keurig coffee maker - really it's a simple workaround" - well I might start drinking Pepsi instead. That's what the Gmail hack script is, you're telling the customer base to simply put on their programming hat if their email client doesn't work exactly as Groundspeak has assumed. Seeing as the email is generated by a template from a database query I don't see why it is a big deal for Groundspeak to take on the cognitive load of writing a script (or say reuse the code they had back in June) rather than directing people to scripting school.

Maybe look at this thread first. Particularly what Avernar said at the bottom.

Didn't catch that when the change was made. That makes notifications - a premium feature - rather useless for the FTF crowd. It is in new cache notifications, just not the others. For example, those generated for "Needs Maintenance," "Needs Archived," "Disabled", etc. Well in that case the FTF group is still covered. I don't generally find I need a reminder of where the last cache I posted a NM/NA log was

Didn't catch that when the change was made. That makes notifications - a premium feature - rather useless for the FTF crowd.

If you are relying on the file being emailed to you, that functionality was removed from the site in the last few weeks. You will have to go to http://www.geocaching.com/pocket/default.aspx or use the link in the email to download your Pocket Queries. You have not mentioned which GPS you have. For most recent Garmin units, copy the GPX (not the ZIP) from your computer to the \Garmin\GPX folder on the GPS, or open it in Basecamp and use that to send the waypoints/geocaches over.

Depends on the Nuvi model, and the POI settings. Generally, yes the POI's show on the map and you can set alerts for proximity too. Also, the handhelds do this trick too, I load 2000 caches on my eTrex for full paperless (including mark as found field notes and such) and 60,000 caches as POIs all the time so I can tell there is a cache there even if I leave my "loaded" area.

Sorry was remembering my Magellan days where the Topo + Street maps for my eXplorist DID set me back another $200. Either way though, the base point exists. People ARE willing to buy a Montana or Monterra and still buy more maps. Heck I know people with Topo Canada, City Navigator AND Bluechart on their 62s. This is not the case with a Nuvi.

Even something as simple as a log type for D/T changes like Coordinate changes is fine by me. Basically a setup where the people that want to ignore challenges are not bothered by people looking for challenges. As for the original topic. Hell yes two thumbs up for make it a new icon type. I have basically written off all ? type caches since I can't be bothered to figure out in the field if that's a field puzzle or flaming hoop cache.

Part of the process of owning a "challenge cache". I personally couldn't care less if a CO with a challenge gets inundated with requests like this. I think about the non-challenge cache COs who get inundated with emails because they change the D/T or title of their cache (particularly old ones) when the situation changes at the cache location. For example, the cache in a swampy area that someone built a boardwalk near. Or the island cache that gets a new bridge as part of a park improvement. Suddenly your T4 is a T2.