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quote:Originally posted by Nemesis: I have spent many hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars putting together, hiding, and maintaining my 30 or so caches. Is that not contribution enough to the sport? Maybe I should get a free year of subscription I imagine you were just kidding...but actually, I think it's a great idea! So I initiated a poll to see how everyone else feels.

quote:Originally posted by Nemesis: I have spent many hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars putting together, hiding, and maintaining my 30 or so caches. Is that not contribution enough to the sport? Maybe I should get a free year of subscription I imagine you were just kidding...but actually, I think it's a great idea! So I initiated a poll to see how everyone else feels.

quote:Originally posted by parkrrrr: This post originally listed caches that weren't really eligible for inclusion in the list. I'd delete it, but then the reply below it wouldn't make sense. I could delete the reply, too. (But then maybe it's more fun to keep people guessing.)

quote:Originally posted by parkrrrr: This post originally listed caches that weren't really eligible for inclusion in the list. I'd delete it, but then the reply below it wouldn't make sense. I could delete the reply, too. (But then maybe it's more fun to keep people guessing.)

quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: I find it amazing how many people are willing to reap the advantages of other people's hard work, but act outraged when something extra is offered at a nominal fee quote:Originally posted by seneca:I've been following the forums quite closely in the last few days and I've not seen too many people "outraged" over Jeremy's apparent decision to change Geocaching from a hobby to a business. I've seen healthy response from his prospective customers commenting on new features that they think may negatively affect the site. Have you read this forum, or the more recent replies on this one? Sure, I've seen some 'healthy responses' and constructive criticism, but amongst those posts seem to be a lot of whining from people who don't appear to be 'prospective customers' as long as there's any kind of pricetag attached.

quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: I find it amazing how many people are willing to reap the advantages of other people's hard work, but act outraged when something extra is offered at a nominal fee quote:Originally posted by seneca:I've been following the forums quite closely in the last few days and I've not seen too many people "outraged" over Jeremy's apparent decision to change Geocaching from a hobby to a business. I've seen healthy response from his prospective customers commenting on new features that they think may negatively affect the site. Have you read this forum, or the more recent replies on this one? Sure, I've seen some 'healthy responses' and constructive criticism, but amongst those posts seem to be a lot of whining from people who don't appear to be 'prospective customers' as long as there's any kind of pricetag attached.

quote:Originally posted by parkrrrr: Some of these aren't really what you're looking for. Most of the wrong ones are at 0/0, but that's because nobody ever actually read the descriptions on most of them. Thanks, parkrrr! I've removed those you've mentioned from the list. (And you're right, I didn't take the time to read the descriptions.) I appreciate you checking them out. Also, I checked the correct link to the Scott Creek Multiple cache (from my original thread), and found it to similar to those you've mentioned above, so I removed it as well. Thanks again, - Zuck

quote:Originally posted by parkrrrr: Some of these aren't really what you're looking for. Most of the wrong ones are at 0/0, but that's because nobody ever actually read the descriptions on most of them. Thanks, parkrrr! I've removed those you've mentioned from the list. (And you're right, I didn't take the time to read the descriptions.) I appreciate you checking them out. Also, I checked the correct link to the Scott Creek Multiple cache (from my original thread), and found it to similar to those you've mentioned above, so I removed it as well. Thanks again, - Zuck

Due to technical difficulties causing errors and duplicate postings, this thread has been replaced by this one. Please post any replies there, instead of here. (I've asked Jeremy to close this one out.) Thanks, Zuck

Due to technical difficulties causing errors and duplicate postings, this thread has been replaced by this one. Please post any replies there, instead of here. (I've asked Jeremy to close this one out.) Thanks, Zuck

Due to technical difficulties causing errors and duplicate postings, this thread has been replaced by this one. Please post any replies there, instead of here. (I've asked Jeremy to close this one out.) Thanks, Zuck

Due to technical problems with the conversion to the new forums, I'm starting over on the thread that was originally listed here (and somehow got duplicated here), with various errors in both places. Rather than continuing two duplicate chains of replies, let's regroup and make a fresh start here. Here is the original motivation behind this forum, and following are the links that have been shared to date: quote:Originally posted by Don&Betty (on the 'Center of the state' thread of the General forum):We really need a separately indexed geocache category in which locationless geocache ideas can be presented in the form of a locationless geocache site log that anybody in the world might like to tackle. They might be listed as 1-5 difficulty and 0 terrain. This would be an avenue for interesting geography related site-location puzzles to be presented to everybody at large and not just to the people who happen to live near the site to be located. Hometown (Where Yall From) by Buck8Point A Cache of Palindromes by EraSeek >>FLITS<< aka Speed Trapped by broek Where's In A Name? by Crusso Geographic Center - Bull's Eye by OK Doke Population Center - Bull's Eye by OK Doke 911 Cache by Ladybuggers Historical Covered Bridges by DLiming & Crew A Pair of Quintuplets by Web-ling Prime Choices by LindaLu NGS Benchmark Recovery Cache by Dutchboy Radio K.A.O.S. by Team Chaos Don't Know Much About History by rdwatson78 The (Not-So) Famous Cities of the World by SherwoodForest ________________________________________ Other caches that either aren't exactly 'Locationless', or only apply to a specific region: 'Mobile' virtual caches (whose cooridinates change as users find existing and select new ones): The Photographer's Cache X by Markwell (Note: Links to nine other caches running in parallel to this one can be found on its cache page.) - For those in Wisconsin: Wisconsin's Rustic Roads by Ken & Robin Ice Age Trail Hike Log by Kelly and Jason - And Virginia: Project Virginia by exConn [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on March 17, 2002 at 01:59 PM.]

Due to technical problems with the conversion to the new forums, I'm starting over on the thread that was originally listed here (and somehow got duplicated here), with various errors in both places. Rather than continuing two duplicate chains of replies, let's regroup and make a fresh start here. Here is the original motivation behind this forum, and following are the links that have been shared to date: quote:Originally posted by Don&Betty (on the 'Center of the state' thread of the General forum):We really need a separately indexed geocache category in which locationless geocache ideas can be presented in the form of a locationless geocache site log that anybody in the world might like to tackle. They might be listed as 1-5 difficulty and 0 terrain. This would be an avenue for interesting geography related site-location puzzles to be presented to everybody at large and not just to the people who happen to live near the site to be located. Hometown (Where Yall From) by Buck8Point A Cache of Palindromes by EraSeek >>FLITS<< aka Speed Trapped by broek Where's In A Name? by Crusso Geographic Center - Bull's Eye by OK Doke Population Center - Bull's Eye by OK Doke 911 Cache by Ladybuggers Historical Covered Bridges by DLiming & Crew A Pair of Quintuplets by Web-ling Prime Choices by LindaLu NGS Benchmark Recovery Cache by Dutchboy Radio K.A.O.S. by Team Chaos Don't Know Much About History by rdwatson78 The (Not-So) Famous Cities of the World by SherwoodForest ________________________________________ Other caches that either aren't exactly 'Locationless', or only apply to a specific region: 'Mobile' virtual caches (whose cooridinates change as users find existing and select new ones): The Photographer's Cache X by Markwell (Note: Links to nine other caches running in parallel to this one can be found on its cache page.) - For those in Wisconsin: Wisconsin's Rustic Roads by Ken & Robin Ice Age Trail Hike Log by Kelly and Jason - And Virginia: Project Virginia by exConn [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on March 17, 2002 at 01:59 PM.]

On second look, maybe it's just as well that I couldn't close out the other copy of this thread. That one has the opening message messed up, so only two of the original links show up...and no quote that explains what prompted the thread in the first place. I'm definitely thinking starting a fresh thread looks like the way to go.

quote:Originally posted by SherwoodForest: does anyone know why our thread here is appearing twice on the list? one with only the first 16 messages, and another with all those plus Zuckerruebensirup's concern about problems with the single quotes... ''' Hmmm...good question. I tried to close out the other one, but it won't let me, since it doesn't recognize me as the owner anymore. Along those same lines, I don't get e-mail notifications anymore when someone adds a new post to the forum. Maybe I should start a new thread for this topic, and ask Jeremy to close out these old ones. What do you think?

quote:Originally posted by SherwoodForest: does anyone know why our thread here is appearing twice on the list? one with only the first 16 messages, and another with all those plus Zuckerruebensirup's concern about problems with the single quotes... ''' Hmmm...good question. I tried to close out the other one, but it won't let me, since it doesn't recognize me as the owner anymore. Along those same lines, I don't get e-mail notifications anymore when someone adds a new post to the forum. Maybe I should start a new thread for this topic, and ask Jeremy to close out these old ones. What do you think?

quote:Originally posted by parkrrrr: It's because you wrote that post with an app like Microsoft Word or something similar with "smart" quotes turned on, and it used some characters that look like single quotes but aren't really. Ah, now I understand. Thanks!

quote:Originally posted by E=Mc2: I the thread I started, which I would like to add has been now LOCKED...which really makes me wonder if things are on the Up and Up. quote:Originally posted by Jeremy Irish:You're absolutely right. It's a conspiracy. Soon the black helicopters will be deleting your post too. Make sure you're wearing an aluminum foil helmet to keep the aliens from reading your mind. LMAO! I love your sense of humor, Jeremy!

quote:Originally posted by TheRealDesertRat: As to the ,"hello Cow," if you have ever been in any other chat anywhere(i.e. MIRC) when you don't feel like typing out a person's full nickname, generally it has been accepted to type part of it. That would seem like a reasonable argument if just "Cow" was used. But, interestingly, "Mister Cow" takes more typing than Cachecow.

Thanks, Jeremy! Keep up the great work.

Thanks, Jeremy! Keep up the great work.

I find it amazing how many people are willing to reap the advantages of other people's hard work, but act outraged when something extra is offered at a nominal fee...even when nothing is being taken away from them. It's as if they think they are owed free services. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for people like Jeremy to get so little thanks for their efforts. I applaud (and thank) him for having stuck with it, despite the poor attitudes many have exhibited.

I find it amazing how many people are willing to reap the advantages of other people's hard work, but act outraged when something extra is offered at a nominal fee...even when nothing is being taken away from them. It's as if they think they are owed free services. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for people like Jeremy to get so little thanks for their efforts. I applaud (and thank) him for having stuck with it, despite the poor attitudes many have exhibited.

quote:Originally posted by E=Mc2: Have you noticed how those who have paid seem they must defend themself? No, I haven't noticed that. I myself haven't paid...but I still find myself steamed by seeing so many people whining about "having to pay". No one is being forced to pay! And if you don't pay, you aren't losing anything that you previously had access to. Nothing is being taken away from you. The people who pay are simply getting something new and extra. What's so bad about that??? I haven't noticed people trying to "defend themselves", but rather stating their confusion at what you are so upset about. quote:Originally posted by E=Mc2:[They] completely disregard the original meaning of the thread. If the "Members Only" cache was not available...I would Have NO problems what-so-ever. How will it help you if they remove the ability for people to hide mocaches? If someone's not comfortable having a publicly exposed cache, they simply won't hide one...as has currently been the case. Allowing mocaches means there will be additional caches out there. It's not likely any current caches will be converted over (unless a person or area is having trouble with stolen or vandalized caches...in which case I would hope that even you would empathize with them not wanting to donate their work and investment into placing a cache just to have a vandal ruin it).

I guess people are already used to coming home empty handed from that cache, then.