Zuckerruebensirup

Or, if it's a user that hasn't posted to the forums, but you know their user name, you can go to ANY cache, and click on "other caches found by this user." Once the new window opens, go up to the web address line, and type over the displayed user's name with the username you're interested in (then hit enter to update the page). From there, you can go to any cache page on the list, and click on their name in the log they posted to get to their profile. I know it's a round about way of getting there...but then so are a lot of my cache finds. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

Or, if it's a user that hasn't posted to the forums, but you know their user name, you can go to ANY cache, and click on "other caches found by this user." Once the new window opens, go up to the web address line, and type over the displayed user's name with the username you're interested in (then hit enter to update the page). From there, you can go to any cache page on the list, and click on their name in the log they posted to get to their profile. I know it's a round about way of getting there...but then so are a lot of my cache finds. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by Peanuthead: What new flavor of cola are you most looking forward to taking Geocaching ? I don't know about the flavor, but the brand would be Jones Soda. (The proposed label is of the Major Tom travel bug, with another character I found while caching. ) quote:Originally posted by CYBret: Anyone here from an area where Vernors Gingerale is available? Yeppers! It's not real gingerale unless it's Vernors®! Shall I add a travel bug to a bottle, and send it out to find you? (Hmmm...I wonder what it would taste like after freezing, thawing, and hitting 110° a couple of times.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by Peanuthead: What new flavor of cola are you most looking forward to taking Geocaching ? I don't know about the flavor, but the brand would be Jones Soda. (The proposed label is of the Major Tom travel bug, with another character I found while caching. ) quote:Originally posted by CYBret: Anyone here from an area where Vernors Gingerale is available? Yeppers! It's not real gingerale unless it's Vernors®! Shall I add a travel bug to a bottle, and send it out to find you? (Hmmm...I wonder what it would taste like after freezing, thawing, and hitting 110° a couple of times.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

My oldest cache is only few months old...and it was stolen, so I can't really say about the current value. A note about posting polls, though. Each user is only allowed to vote ONCE, and you can only select ONE choice...so asking two questions in one poll doesn't really work. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

I released a travel bug this past Saturday, on what turned out to be the spur of the moment...so I hadn't even typed up the goals yet, let alone put together a nice little instruction card. A cacher retrieved it yesterday, and mentioned in his log that, without knowing what the goals of the bug were when he picked it up, he decided not to place it in the next cache he logged...which turned out to be good intuition, since its goals happen to be in the opposite direction. In his log, he mentioned that, before placing the bug into a new cache, he'd print out the goals, and put them and the bug into a plastic bag so that other cachers would know immediately upon retrevial what the TB's goals were. I thought that was very thoughtful. (But then, each bug owner is different. Some people may look at the gesture as a insult that they hadn't done their 'job' of releasing the bug correctly.) It never hurts to ask for the owner's input before adding anything to their travel bug. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

I released a travel bug this past Saturday, on what turned out to be the spur of the moment...so I hadn't even typed up the goals yet, let alone put together a nice little instruction card. A cacher retrieved it yesterday, and mentioned in his log that, without knowing what the goals of the bug were when he picked it up, he decided not to place it in the next cache he logged...which turned out to be good intuition, since its goals happen to be in the opposite direction. In his log, he mentioned that, before placing the bug into a new cache, he'd print out the goals, and put them and the bug into a plastic bag so that other cachers would know immediately upon retrevial what the TB's goals were. I thought that was very thoughtful. (But then, each bug owner is different. Some people may look at the gesture as a insult that they hadn't done their 'job' of releasing the bug correctly.) It never hurts to ask for the owner's input before adding anything to their travel bug. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by squishy: It probably isn't my place since I'm not the TB owner, but two emails to them have gone unheeded. It always makes me smile to see that I'm not the only one who feels sentimental about the travel bugs I've helped on their way. It's hard not to take a personal interest in seeing them continue to move along once they've left your hands. As for advice, I don't think there's really much else you can do. After a couple of e-mails have gone unheeded, it would appear fairly obvious that they are deliberately ignoring you. There's really no way to FORCE them to place the bug...and if they live near where you do, making a pest of yourself may simply tick them off...and depending on the kind of people they are (which stealing a travel bug speaks something about), they could decide to get 'pay backs' by deliberating plundering your caches (if you've placed any, that is).

When I pick up a travel bug, I try to place it into a new cache within two weekends of when I picked it up. When someone else picks up one of my travel bugs, I hope to see it move within a couple of weeks...but I'll wait until a month has gone by before I send out an e-mail asking about it. (Unless I've noticed that the holder has visited new caches in between...in which case I'll likely send out an e-mail sooner.) In my opinion, holding onto a bug for longer than a month isn't as bad as not communicating with the owner during that month. Obviously, there are extenuating circumstances (like family emergencies) that would excuse a lack of communication...but in most cases, it's just that people have gotten busy with other things. But it only takes a couple of minutes to send a quick e-mail that says, "I just wanted you to know that I haven't forgotten about your travel bug. Things have been crazy here, but I'm hoping to get back out and place it again soon." I think a quick note like that will ease the minds of most travel bug owners, and refresh their patience for a little longer. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by The GeoGadgets Team: I agree with Zuck (my brain locks on to your nick and I hear it chanted over and over in my head in the wee hours after heavy drinking... don't ask me to spell it, please?). Don't worry...I can hardly spell it myself! (Thank goodness for auto-complete.)

quote:Originally posted by The GeoGadgets Team: I agree with Zuck (my brain locks on to your nick and I hear it chanted over and over in my head in the wee hours after heavy drinking... don't ask me to spell it, please?). Don't worry...I can hardly spell it myself! (Thank goodness for auto-complete.)

quote:Originally posted by ~erik~: OK, I'll post it. The majority would like to see it, so be it. Thanks! It's encouraging to see when you guys listen and respond to the consensus in the forums. (And I can appreciate your comment about the "lamecationless" caches...I hope others don't jump on this band wagon, and spoil the ingenuity of bunkerdave's idea.)

quote:Originally posted by inceptor: As soon as it arrives, I will post what I think of the unit. Ah, it must be tough to have to wait so long. I'd get impatient to be playing with my new toy. It's cool that you've got dibs on one, and won't get charged until it's shipped, though.

quote:Originally posted by inceptor: As soon as it arrives, I will post what I think of the unit. Ah, it must be tough to have to wait so long. I'd get impatient to be playing with my new toy. It's cool that you've got dibs on one, and won't get charged until it's shipped, though.

I think you should check out this thread. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

I think you should check out this thread. ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

It sounds to me like at least a couple of people didn't read the cache description closely. (Either that, or bunkerdave has updated the description since they left their comments.) Here's an excerpt from the cache description: I will verify that you have logged them on the website, and then I will send you the minutes part of the coordinates for the cache, where you can claim your prize. It isn't much, but you don't have to trade for it, either. Just take the one you like best, and leave the rest. quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:I voted no. There is no specific container to find to log this cache, Sure there is! (How else are you going to take something from it, and leave the rest?) quote:nor is there an interesting spot that someone wants to point out that most people miss that requires an answer to PROVE that you were there. This cache definately does not conform to the guidelines that are being discussed in another thread in this same *General* forum about locationless cache requirements. It's NOT locationless. Once a person has met the prerequisites, they will get the the actual coordinates. Signing the logbook will be the PROOF of your visit...no need to answer a question. quote:Based on all of this it is not a cache Why not? quote:I do not think that this idea or goal should be a *locationless cache*. It should just be a personal goal. I assume the "goal" refered to here is logging a cache from each county. However, that's not what earns a find on this cache, it's just the key to unlock the door. Seneca also seems to have interpreted it similarly: quote:Originally posted by seneca: (maybe not a bad idea, but not for a cache - locationless or not) But then he DID seem to notice the part about getting the coordinates to the cache ("Then YOU too can have the honour of obtaining the co-ordinates to my special cache!" )...so I'm not sure why he mentioned locationless. Personally, I think it's a cool idea. I think more people have a chance at logging this one than some of the 5/5's that require rock climbing and scuba equipement. (If we're going to deny caches because they aren't practical for "everybody" to log, then the cache list would be a LOT smaller.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!" [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on May 25, 2002 at 04:32 PM.]

It sounds to me like at least a couple of people didn't read the cache description closely. (Either that, or bunkerdave has updated the description since they left their comments.) Here's an excerpt from the cache description: I will verify that you have logged them on the website, and then I will send you the minutes part of the coordinates for the cache, where you can claim your prize. It isn't much, but you don't have to trade for it, either. Just take the one you like best, and leave the rest. quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:I voted no. There is no specific container to find to log this cache, Sure there is! (How else are you going to take something from it, and leave the rest?) quote:nor is there an interesting spot that someone wants to point out that most people miss that requires an answer to PROVE that you were there. This cache definately does not conform to the guidelines that are being discussed in another thread in this same *General* forum about locationless cache requirements. It's NOT locationless. Once a person has met the prerequisites, they will get the the actual coordinates. Signing the logbook will be the PROOF of your visit...no need to answer a question. quote:Based on all of this it is not a cache Why not? quote:I do not think that this idea or goal should be a *locationless cache*. It should just be a personal goal. I assume the "goal" refered to here is logging a cache from each county. However, that's not what earns a find on this cache, it's just the key to unlock the door. Seneca also seems to have interpreted it similarly: quote:Originally posted by seneca: (maybe not a bad idea, but not for a cache - locationless or not) But then he DID seem to notice the part about getting the coordinates to the cache ("Then YOU too can have the honour of obtaining the co-ordinates to my special cache!" )...so I'm not sure why he mentioned locationless. Personally, I think it's a cool idea. I think more people have a chance at logging this one than some of the 5/5's that require rock climbing and scuba equipement. (If we're going to deny caches because they aren't practical for "everybody" to log, then the cache list would be a LOT smaller.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!" [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on May 25, 2002 at 04:32 PM.]

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: There can be no "negative impact on the speed at which (the travel bug) travels)" if the cache owner has set no specific time/date goals. Even for travel bugs that don't have specific goals, I imagine most owners would prefer their bug to average a week or so per hop, over having them sit in each cache (and then each cacher's hands) for 2-3 months at a time. But again, it's a subjective thing. So, unless we do a poll (which I'm not all that interested in, since I'm fairly confident that what I said above is true for a majority of bug owners), it's impossible to know the general consensus. (And even then, we'd only know how the poll responders felt, not the community of TB owners as an entirety.) But since you seem to really enjoy debating anything/everything a person says who's offered a contrasting opinion to one of your posts, I thought I'd be a good sport, and humor you by sharing my thoughts. quote:But __my__ primary motivation is to have some fun geocaching, which I'm leaving right now to do. Ah, and here I thought it was to have some fun arguing. Happy caching! [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on May 25, 2002 at 08:11 AM.]

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: There can be no "negative impact on the speed at which (the travel bug) travels)" if the cache owner has set no specific time/date goals. Even for travel bugs that don't have specific goals, I imagine most owners would prefer their bug to average a week or so per hop, over having them sit in each cache (and then each cacher's hands) for 2-3 months at a time. But again, it's a subjective thing. So, unless we do a poll (which I'm not all that interested in, since I'm fairly confident that what I said above is true for a majority of bug owners), it's impossible to know the general consensus. (And even then, we'd only know how the poll responders felt, not the community of TB owners as an entirety.) But since you seem to really enjoy debating anything/everything a person says who's offered a contrasting opinion to one of your posts, I thought I'd be a good sport, and humor you by sharing my thoughts. quote:But __my__ primary motivation is to have some fun geocaching, which I'm leaving right now to do. Ah, and here I thought it was to have some fun arguing. Happy caching! [This message was edited by Zuckerruebensirup on May 25, 2002 at 08:11 AM.]

About a month ago, I bought a Magellan MAP 330X, with Street Map CD, windshield mount, and power/PC cable for $199 at SAM'S Club. (And at the time, there as a $50 rebate on top of it.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

About a month ago, I bought a Magellan MAP 330X, with Street Map CD, windshield mount, and power/PC cable for $199 at SAM'S Club. (And at the time, there as a $50 rebate on top of it.) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by Talzhemir: I found a Travelbug. It didn't occur to me to log the Find. I figured I'd do it after I'd actually placed him. In addition to having the number handy, logging your retrieval of a travel bug as soon as possible after removing it from a cache is important for two reasons: 1) Keeping the bug's owner informed of the status of the bug, and 2) Removing the "Travel bug here!" icon from the cache's description page. Imagine how disappointing it is for people who are seeking a cache, specifically in hopes of grabbing the bug...only to discover that someone else already grabbed it, but didn't log their find. (By the way, once you've logged your retrieval of the bug, you won't need to keep its number handy for logging its placement into a new cache. When you go to the new cache page to log your find, one of the choices before you submit your log is to "place a travel bug currently in your possession." If you click on that option, a dropdown list of any bugs currently listed as being in your possession will open, and you simply select the bug in question, and it automatically records your placement into the new cache. ) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by Talzhemir: I found a Travelbug. It didn't occur to me to log the Find. I figured I'd do it after I'd actually placed him. In addition to having the number handy, logging your retrieval of a travel bug as soon as possible after removing it from a cache is important for two reasons: 1) Keeping the bug's owner informed of the status of the bug, and 2) Removing the "Travel bug here!" icon from the cache's description page. Imagine how disappointing it is for people who are seeking a cache, specifically in hopes of grabbing the bug...only to discover that someone else already grabbed it, but didn't log their find. (By the way, once you've logged your retrieval of the bug, you won't need to keep its number handy for logging its placement into a new cache. When you go to the new cache page to log your find, one of the choices before you submit your log is to "place a travel bug currently in your possession." If you click on that option, a dropdown list of any bugs currently listed as being in your possession will open, and you simply select the bug in question, and it automatically records your placement into the new cache. ) ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!"

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: With that kind of lapse between hitting the reply button and actually posting the reply, I guess it's a good idea to check back on what you're commenting on. Yes, apparently so. Thanks for the advice. You seem to be very generous in that regard. quote:But questioning the appropriateness of my placements and the reactions of the bug owners does not constitute an opinion. So what exactly DOES it constitute then? In my opinion, the primary motivation for the placement of others' travel bugs should be the goals set out for that bug. If you feel that bugs should be used as bait to attract cachers to a particular cache you like, you're entitled to that opinion...and you're entitled to place them wherever you'd like. Once a bug is 'released' the owner has entrusted those who handle it to use their own judgment on what to do with it next. quote:How absurd. My thoughts exactly! quote:As a travel bug owner, you are counting on others to help you out by moving your bug along, according to your agenda, and by providing locations for the bugs to be stored safely until grabbed. And apparently you consider that "very self-centered". quote:I do agree with you, in part: The stated goals of a bug should be adhered to as much as possible. But it is completely beyond the bug owner's control. Yep. We have to trust each other to honor our wishes, and to help in carrying them out. quote:On the practical side, once the travel bug leaves its owner's possession, that bug becomes in effect a "promotional item" in whatever cache it is placed. Apparently so, from what I've read here. And as long as it doesn't interfere with the bug's goals, or have a negative impact on the speed at which it travels (which you previously assured me it doesn't) then I don't have a problem with that. The point I was originally trying to make (which you apparently agree with) is that the PRIMARY motivation for moving a bug should be to help it with its goals. quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: (Besides, if others don't want to help move my bugs towards their goals, I'm not twisting anyone's arm to take them out of a cache.) quote:And neither, unfortunately, can you stop them. Nope. That's part of the trust thing, and one of the risks we must be willing to take when we release a bug. quote:I've also put several not-yet-activated bugs into caches as "cache prizes," allowing whoever picked one up to activate it, attach their own item and set their own goal. They get snagged as fast as I can place them ... even faster than activated bugs. Ah, if they are so popular, I guess I'm not the only 'self-centered' person out there, then. (Or maybe those people are just eager to get out there and start promoting the caches they particularly enjoy, in a selfless act to help other deserving cache-hiders out.) {Ok, I'm doing one last quick check to see if you've updated your post since the time I started typing this, in case there's something relevant that I need to address. Nope! Alrighty then, "post" it is.}