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Sorry to hear of your fire. Hope you and your family are OK. Oh dear!!! Hope and pray you and your family are all well!! Thank you! It was just me and my husband (and kitty) in the house at the time, and our lovely alarms alerted my husband from the yard and he came in and saved me from my nap (and the kitty, too). About a quarter of our house is toast, and the rest is nasty smokey. But no structural damage from the looks of it, fortunately! We're just going to have to figure out where our family is going to live for a few months (?) while we gut things and replace things to make it liveable again. It sounds bad, but people have/had it a lot worse. God is good, we still have our family and pictures/computers and a house when it is all fixed back up again. We have wonderful family and friends that are willing to be there for us. Good to hear you and your loved ones are OK. You also seem to have the positive attitude that will get you through the next little while. Think of it this way, you now have an excuse to redo the house!

I was out caching today! I had a couple of hours to spare so I went out and got #'s 98, 99, 100, and 101. I had planned and making #100 a puzzle cache or something special but I was just too close to a traditional to pass it by.

I think you are taking the word "maggot" a little to literal. I don't know anyone that goes out of their way to step on a maggot. They may swat a fly if it annoys them. Would you find "cache-fly" more acceptable? I understand what you are saying but you are taking it a bit too literally. It's just a word. No one is using the word to incite violence against them. It's just a term of disrespect. I for one do not respect anyone who would do that.

The first one you put out should be #100, then count down from there. The promise of having to return to the same spot 98 more times after they retrieve the first two and see the countdown might discourage them. Excellent idea! Even better would be to have CITO kits in every cache and see if the enviro-nut uses them (of course they won't) but it would make an even stronger argument as to who was more concerned about the area.

Crazy glue isn't acetone... ~LOL~ Why use nail polish remover for my test? I have pure acetone at my disposal (among many other chemicals). I don't see anywhere in my post where I said Crazy glue was acetone. As for the nail polish comment.. it is more accessible to the general public these days. It is about 90% acetone. I have no problems buying it being a former boat builder and fiberglass tech with a degree in.. ah.. nm... Heck.. I could call Dow Corning and order a 55 Gallon drum of it. OK, you said Krazy Glue CONTAINS acetone... which I'm pretty sure it doesn't. And nail polish REMOVER is 70% acetone according to the last label I read. (I admit to being without nail polish remover at the moment). It doesn't. Acetone actually REMOVES Krazy Glue, according to their website. I will now back outta this thread and leave the internet Plastic Engineers to discuss how certain Plastics react to Acetone. I guess I wasted my time going to University. I could have learned all I needed to know by reading it online!

A maggot with travel bug ethics? Naww... just a cache thief*** with an overactive ego that wants to let as many people know what he has done. *** I detest the term "maggot". I think that use of the term makes us look worse than the cache thieves. I actually like the term "maggot" to describe them. I cannot think of a better term. Thief shouldn't apply because they didn't just steal them for gain. Vandal really doesn't apply because they didn't just ruin them or mar them. Perhaps "destroyer" might be good. *** Just rambling*** My word(s) for them would be POS but that wouldn't fly here. I just think that calling a cache thief a term that essentially implies that they are below life itself... something to step on and squash without remorse... makes us look bad to others. I think that, no matter our emotional response, should rise above those that would stoop to such methods. While I agree with you that if others were reading these forums, we should rise above that. I think it is pretty much only Geocachers and the people that destroy them that are here. If this was a more widely read forum I would temper my words more. It's like the people I work with... mostly men. They tend to use crude words so I adapt my speech to that. I would never talk the way I do at work in the general public. My wife swears more than I. (I didn't exactly get my words out right or the way I wanted to but I have a massive headache and I'm confident the dog with glasses will read through my muddled post and figure it out) *** May edit later for clarity***

A maggot with travel bug ethics? Naww... just a cache thief*** with an overactive ego that wants to let as many people know what he has done. *** I detest the term "maggot". I think that use of the term makes us look worse than the cache thieves. I actually like the term "maggot" to describe them. I cannot think of a better term. Thief shouldn't apply because they didn't just steal them for gain. Vandal really doesn't apply because they didn't just ruin them or mar them. Perhaps "destroyer" might be good. *** Just rambling*** My word(s) for them would be POS but that wouldn't fly here.

Are you looking for something other than, all of the people that are in this post discussing it and keep coming back to read what others have written? I was referring to the silly arguments over the minutia of how GPS works. Beyond feeding a few posters' superiority complexes, who really gives a care? Whether or not the satellites are in geosynchronous orbit isn't minutia. It's one of the reasons we get different accuracy readings at the same location. The better people understand how the system works, the better they can make use of their receivers. I'm reading this thread and interested in the subject. I know very little of how GPS works and am always looking to learn more about the things I use and am interested in. I see nothing wrong with learning more about anything. Sure, there are things I have no interest in learning about but if that's the case, I just avoid those threads/books/programs..etc... For instance, I do not belong to any Justin Beiber Internet forums.

You might want to check this site out: http://www.chemistryquestion.com/English/Q...recycling.html: In part: Your link is dead.

Crazy glue isn't acetone... ~LOL~ Why use nail polish remover for my test? I have pure acetone at my disposal (among many other chemicals). I don't see anywhere in my post where I said Crazy glue was acetone. As for the nail polish comment.. it is more accessible to the general public these days. It is about 90% acetone. I have no problems buying it being a former boat builder and fiberglass tech with a degree in.. ah.. nm... Heck.. I could call Dow Corning and order a 55 Gallon drum of it.

Hmm are all caches on bases ammo cans? (just a thought...)

Crazy glue does NOT bond plastic well. At least not many plastics if it bonds any. If you want to bond like plastics together you need either heat or a solvent. (friction and radio waves will work as well but most people don't have the sufficient equipment to use those and it's still just using heat). Crazy glue DOES indeed bond Plastics together very well (I should have added "Instant Crazy glue"). It contains acetone which is a solvent. Try it for yourself. Pour a little nail polish remover into the bottom of a PET bottle and see what happens.

I will admit it.. I'm stupid. Or am I? (pretty sure I am)

And the rest of the story is? (sorry, didn't mean to sound rude but as you know... there are two sides to every story and it seems TPTB once again threw someone to the wolves)

Brian? may I call you Brian? That involves common sense... which as you must know being a forum moderator is not so common. I know this because I have made a fool of myself by not listening to common sense a few times. Like containers.. things need to be idiot proof.

WE DON'T NEED NO $%^&* SNAKES NEAR NO $%^&* CACHES! *attempt at humour from snakes on a plane* *why are so many of us making these disclaimers?*

Thank you for the warm welcome. I am not sweating the swag at all. I am sincerely excited to do my part, and to do it creatively. Like I said, I wanna do this the way it is meant to be done, with a little heart. I am a crafty person anyhow, and I enjoy making stuff, so what a great way to share that stuff with the people who take the time to follow the hunt. No sweat at all. Mainly I mentioned it because I want to put a message out there to you cachers who have been doing this for sometime now (long enough to see how it has played out over one-ten years) that there are still newbies coming into this with a great wonder and respect for the game. Newbies with every intention of keeping the game going or even adding just a little bit summin summin new to make it just that little bit better. I would guess that in a game like this, the more people who set out to make it fun/creative/exciting the better the game will be for the community that is Geocaching. I will make my signature pieces because, well, because I want to. ; ) Hopefully some will want to take them home with them or pass them on!! Thanks for reading this Intemp, and for replying! You seem to have a good grasp about what this game is about.

Hilarious!

Knowing a little bit about Plastics I will chime in here. I would think that the best way to make a bottle cap cache container would be to cut the bottle off below the collar on both bottles, sand or file the underside of the collars flat and use Crazy glue to fit them together. The reason for using Crazy glue is that it actually eats/melts/breaks down the Plastic and fuses them together rather than gluing them. The larger the surface area you are fusing the better the hold.

As long as we keep posting and pushing this to the top, someone's going to just read the first post and give it another whack. I think the OP should just change his geocaching handle to piñata And the beatings will continue until morale improves!

I have seen a lot worse things left in a cache than a Twix bar or full Pez dispenser so I doubt that was a set up. I still think this person is a loon. It makes me wonder if anyone has reported him/her/maggot to the Park Ranger? If so, would the Ranger(s) be able to do anything about it? One would think that if the cache placers had the permission from the Ranger that the park might not take too kindly to some self appointed enviro-superhero.

That was my first thought as well...but then I realized this guy is such an eco-angel, he just floats above the ground. The thing I love about these eco-nuts is that they truly believe that through normal use, humans can "destroy" nature. I try to Leave No Trace because I find geotrails and destruction to be unsightly and against my geocaching/woodsmans ethics but I'm under no delusions. No matter how down-trodden a trail becomes, if left alone, nature will quickly reclaim it. In this regard, we really are a flea on an elephants back...we're not going to hurt the elephant. The other thing I've always wondered about was the idea that certain places or things needed to be "preserved" forever. This planet is constantly evolving. Entire islands have fallen into the ocean while new ones are being formed today as we live and breath. Entire forests have been devastated by wildfires only to grow back. Mount St. Helens was a devastating volcanic eruption and for all the damage it did, the affected area around it isn't a barren wasteland. Mount Everest will one day be gone, flattened by the effects of erosion and time. Nature is far stronger than we and far more ruthless. She's also far more resiliant. Or maybe I'm full of baloney. Or maybe you are right on the money...

I think TAR makes a lot of good points. I may not agree with everything he said but think we could all try to be a little more understanding and patient with new forum members. I still consider myself a newbie here (not to forums). I will be the first to point out that I have said some not so nice things to newbies and oldsters alike. I am making a conscious effort to try to be better in that respect. While I never really felt people were rude to me when I first started posting here I have seen it happen. Not that often but enough that I agree we should try to make this forum a more welcoming place for new posters.

Those were both really cool and creative. I would love either one of those for my next birthday but I have decided I am no longer going to have birthdays. Therefore I will stop aging. Seriously though, Excellent job by the cake makers.

While I don't condone muggling (is that even a word?) I would have to agree with what you did. I would like to think we are a self policing group. I have been tempted to do the same thing a few times. I may do so once I have a bit more experience to be able to make that call.