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You just did. You complained about them because they mostly have a missing piece. That was not a complaint. It was a comment and personal opinion.

Just another puritan wanting excess controls on something that should be just for fun. Does your car ask for a 10 digit code everytime you sit down in it to make sure it you you that is really driving it? Does your house have an electronic lock that requires a passcode to get in to verify it is you? Does the local carnival have a fingerprint scanner that matches your drivers license to make sure you are who you say you are just to ride the rides or visit any events? See how stupid it all sounds? Just let people have fun, and if theres a question about somneone finding your cache, match the written log with the online log.... just remember that not everyone uses the same info on paper that they do on the website... Sometimes I use kzrclan if I am geocaching with my daughter instead of my website name... Calling someone a "puritan" is a bit insulting. Cars need keys to start them. Homes need keys to enter them. See how normal that sounds?

Guidelines have some wiggle-room, which can be applied at the reviewer's discretion. Your example "guideline" stopped being a guideline when you used the word "must". That makes it a rule. To continue with your board game analogy: If you come up a dollar short in Monopoly, you're out of the game. Period. That's because the game has rules. But if you come up a foot short when placing your cache, it may still be published. Got it? No need for rudeness. The word "must" is used in the same context in the guidelines. Does that make the "guideline" a rule? And the board game analogy was not mine. I merely commented on it. It's OK though. Everybody makes mistakes.

I tend to view the regional forums as something less and generally don't hang out there. Could also be because, besides here, I hang out at a local forum which is not part of Groundspeak. Ditto.

Perhaps invite them to this thread to see what they have to say?

At least it wasn't moved to the nether regions.

I like about 90% of the micros I have found. About 99% of the ones I have found were listed as micros. If you do not like micros, do not look for them. Pretty simple really. I dislike multis because it seems unless they are pretty recently placed they mostly have a missing piece. Therefore I do not look for them. Problem solved and I never complain about them.

Scrabble has rules and the point is to win. Geocaching has guidelines and the point is variable from cacher to cacher. See the difference? I agree with you about Scrabble being a game that has rules and the point is to win but, Geocaching has "guidelines". These "guidelines" that are not rules can make a cache that you hide not posted on this site because it does not fit the "guidelines". There are several "guidelines" that can define what is allowed in this game. Can someone tell me how the "guidelines" are different than rules? The old "these are guidelines and not rules" saying is getting a bit silly. It's like me creating a "guideline" on my cache page saying you must take a picture of you in a clown suit. Then saying it isn't an ALR, it's just a "guideline".

Very sorry to hear about your loss.

This is the correct answer. Micros in pine trees? Between being hard to spot, getting pricked, and pine sap, yep, they can be annoying. I'll give them 5 minutes before going with the DNF, usually. And I'd roll with the term Conifer. I've been corrected too many times referring to a Spruce as a Pine. The answer is 'evergreen' my friend.

Once again, that is some really nice work. What did you do the carving with? a Dremel or something similar?

That is really cool. I'm going to have to try making one.

I tend to listen to my head. My gut only tells me I'm hungry or in need of beer. By the time your 'gut instincts' tell you something, it is usually already too late to react unless you have a plan in your head. I do carry pepper spray and a collapsible metal baton when I cache off the path. I prefer to use my mind though to get me out of situations I want to leave.

So if people enjoyed finding it (even newbies), why archive it? What made you feel uncomfortable about it?

Shouldn't you be working? Cool story by the way. I am at work. And I know several Daves. Some of them are Davids but most of them are Daves! These are the Daves I know, I know. These are the Daves I know!

Ditto.

Why can't I get a REAL powertrail like that... If someone placed a powertrail like that where I live I would archive all of my caches, and stop geocaching locally. Seriously. Yep, geocide the answer to all problems. If it happens make sure you fill out and submit form RK-666. Ooooh! message me when that happens. I love a good geocide!

No no... it's about Pink Floyd! It's all about Pink Floyd! (and bacon)

Testing strip containers for pools and spas are also good.

I suppose I should ask why the creative cache container thread is so active then?

It is all about bacon. Always.

I called it in post#4. Sorry to read that I was correct though. Some people are worse than animals.

More info?

Yes this situation could have been uglier. I do carry a firearm, but nevertheless it's best to have good verbal skills in these situations than a quick draw. To someone who is that defensive about their territory and doesn't know anything about geocaching, the explanation is going to sound doubly like bull. However, when confronted with threatening speech or body posture, responding with what could be perceived as a return threat or a spin will only escalate the situation. Keep a non-threatening posture, and speak calmly and firmly. Take all insults and don't respond to accusations defensively. Rather, continue explaining your business. Some things inevitably become physical, but by and large if the person encountered isn't planning to use force in the first place it won't get to that point unless provoked to it. Try to figure out what is causing the other person to be aggressive or defensive and work the conversation about alleviating that. After 10 years of working in the prison system, I've learned the best protection you can have is interpersonal skills. Excellent post.

Many geocachers take far longer than a week to set up their caches. The permission process for some land managers may take months. Event organizers begin hiding event-related caches months in advance of their event, often involving a puzzle or scavenger hunt requiring elaborate preparation. Those efforts can't be foiled by a roadside throwdown two weeks prior to the event. So, please avoid sweeping generalizations and dramatic labels like "obscene." It's only a game. I agree but should the reviewer not tell the person wanting to place a cache there the reason they can't ? Maybe say "hey... a person is working on this location and it may take awhile..."? And yes, It is just a game to us. But to Groundspeak and the people that represent Groundspeak it is a business. A little customer service is never a bad thing.