Menagerie

I'll try some different ways and let you know what happens - later (It's 2 a.m. here (despite what the time stamp says) and if I don't get some sleep my family will accuse me of not pulling my weight with the yard work we have planned for later this morning). Just a thought - would there be a way to use Outlook to get the information off the server, and then have GSAK collect it from Outlook?

I am using the free account, but have routinely accessed it through Outlook without difficulty. I will try to use my ISP account (which I never use) when they send me an E-mail with the "new" password since I haven't used it in 6 months. I'm not opposed to signing up for a Google account, but since everything is already going to Hotmail, I'd prefer to use it. Your quick responses are once again greatly appreciated!

It is my understanding that Hotmail automatically supports POP3, and that this is how it interfaces with Outlook. Keep in mind however, that I'm no computer whiz, so if someone has different information, feel free to chime in! BTW, I also tried this with my Norton disabled and routinely get the same report.

I have what I suspect is an End User problem with the POP3 function (which has increased the already stellar "coolness factor" of GSAK another notch). When I attempt to collect my gpx files from my PQ using the "Get data via E-mail" function, I get an error screen that reads: "mail download error. Error message is: Connection Closed Gracefully" What am I doing wrong? I'm using a registered GSAK (as should everyone else considering Clyde's time committment), Windows XP Pro, and a Hotmail account using the POP3 server mail.hotmail.com Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

The WCM was witness to lots of impressive milestones. It's fun to be able to put faces to monikers. Congratualtions to you all. And for that matter (to avoid leaving anybody out) congratulations to those of you who made your recent milestones and didn't attend the WCM.

It took us awhile with a bit of a slow start over the last few months, but the Wenatchee Cache Machine put us over the top for our first 100. Now all we have to do is figure out which one was actually number 100 (so much for 100 being the most memorable). We spread some of our signature wooden nickles thoughout the various caches, knowing we would get to #100 sometime. It was probably a bigger deal that we survived 40+ caches in a day with three kids ages 5-11 (could have had near 70 caches today, but had to do playground stops, bathroom stops, and the obligatory hour at the McDonalds playground to keep the mood upbeat).

Thanks to all for the input regarding children. I think we'll try to keep up with the pack as long as possible. With that in mind, we'll probably bring a portable DVD player, snacks and pillows. Our kids are real gung ho some days, not so on others. We'll just have to see which version of them shows up on the the day of the machine. If we have to slow down at some point, so be it.

It was touch-and-go there for awhile, but (as I logged on the cache site) with an impressive display of responsibility-juggling and tight scheduling, we will be able to make it. We'll be staying at the La Quinta. Not having been able to attend a cache machine before, we're hoping some of you can provide words of wisdom regarding children and cache machines. We have three kids, ages 5 through 11. In other people's experiences, is this something the kids can enjoy or do they get burned out early on? It's so difficult to find time off for caching, so this Cache Machine will accomplish a number of goals: 1) get to find new caches in a location we don't get to very often, 2) get to finally meet some fellow cachers in person, 3) get to boost our cache count numbers to a more "respectable" level for the length of time we've been Geocachers (maybe we will get to stop saying "it's not the count, it's the quality that matters." soon). Looking forward to meeting everybody! Menagerie Edit: Mrs. Menagerie says I have to add goal #4) "Quality family time" on the four hour drive there and back, the whole reason we got into Geocaching.

I hardly think making sure everyone has the opportunity to enjoy the game and that care is taken not to exclude them is "condescending." There is no question that there are some lame caches out there. We'd all like people to be more selective at times. But those less able than you and I are out there, and do have difficulties with some caches simply due to their disabilities (for instance look at the Feb 7 log of GCKEPA). Obviously they take care to avoid the caches that are rated beyond their abilities. We just need to make sure there is a variety of caches available for all types and they don't all become a homogenous 1/2 mile walk in the woods to a pretty view. As I mentioned previously, it is a worthy excercise to try and enhance the quality of caches, but the sport is improved by the variety of people that are included, so care should be taken not to carelessly disregard what another might think is a "good cache." "hide ones better than you have found!"

This may be an old idea, but perhaps GC.com should not accept caches until a player has a minumum number of finds. I would expect that after 20 or so finds, a person may have a pretty good idea of what makes a good cache. If caches have to go through a review panal before they are located, we have to be exceedingly careful which caches were to be excluded. I suspect the very thing that makes a "lame cache" for most of us is the thing that makes a "great cache" for people with mobility issues, or other disabilities. In addition to the "hide it better than you found it" mantra we've all seen. We should start an additional mantra of "Hide ones better than you've found." This should be as ubiquitus as the former! spelling edid

As it turns out, I was looking at a number of caches that had large images when the horizontal scroll bar appeared. But, this was not an issue with the previous version. Not a big deal for me, I have a relatively high speed connection and access to new machines with large screens. It's just my suspicion that there are quite a few others who will be more significantly affected. Just my 0.02.

First of all I like the new look. That being said, the new layout makes it necessary to use the horizontal scroll bar on some of my machines. I suspect that those with smaller screens or who don't have the capability (or know-how) to increase resolution are having to use the horizontal scroll bar alot. In my humble opinion, a web page has a better design feel when the creator is able to avoid the horizontal scroll bar, even for users of older machines/screens. I can simply solve my problem by using my newer machines and avoiding the "hand-me-downs" I've given to my kids. I am not sure everyone has that luxery. Oops, punctuation edit.

I just became a premium member yesterday. I became acquanted with the GC site only this last summer. I eventually payed the $30 more out of a sense of duty to support the sport than for the (few) added features. What would have caused me to join sooner (and renew in the future) is an ability to quickly search along a travel route. I'd even pay more for this one feature. I just don't find I have much time to compile a good list for a trip of any significant lenth. I know I'm missing good caches as I drive somewhere, but I didn't have an hour to spend manually finding them. I know it is technically difficult, but the technology/programming is already out there (i.e. Mapquest you can search for any gas station or other place that meets your criteria along a route). Can I designate that my PM fee goes to support this cause?