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  1. What do you guys think. Would people like this cantainer or not. The actual cantainer is a 35 mm filn cantainer glued to the trip lever on a leg hold steel trap. Of course I have the trap welded open so there's no way it would snap shut on someone's hand but they wouldn't know this. What do you think? Good or Bad?



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    Frankly the idea is neat however, I worry that someone else might mimick you without ensuring all the safeguards are in place and may actually cause someone harm. But then again, someone already has mentioned the term "Natural Selection."

  2. One of my favorite parts of hiding caches is (or was) receiving emailed logs from the cachers that have found or not found my caches. My enjoyment of this part of the game has diminished over the last couple of years due to the increasingly poor logging practices of my fellow cachers.

    Yes, I know, an LPC doesn't deserve a 100 word log and that's not what I'm talking about (I don't hide those anyway). What I'm ranting about today is the poor quality of online logs on quality caches.

    "TNLNSL - TFTC" isn't an acceptable log on a cache that's on many people's favorites list. Many newbies seem to start off logging with the dreaded acronyms and never get away from it unfortunately.

    I've asked some cachers that write turd logs why they do it and for the most part they say "I can't think of anything to write", or "I'm not creative". I'm not looking for a witty, creative, Kurt Vonnegut-type log, just something descriptive of your time hunting the cache. Its really not hard and only takes a few seconds longer than the "TNLNSL - TFTC" carp.


    Here's a short list of things you can comment on if you can't think of anything to write in an online log:


    * what was the weather like?

    * see any animals, pretty flowers, nudists, etc?

    * condition of the cache?

    * logbook full?

    * condition of swag?

    * easy to find? tough?

    * coordinate accuracy - good or bad?

    * accuracy of terrain and difficulty ratings

    * travel bug inventory

    * history of the area

    * memories of previous caches in the area

    * comment on the state of the cache's camo, or lack there of

    * did you like the cache?

    * any park weirdos?

    * talk to any muggles or LEO's?

    I could go on and on!


    Don't get me started on put-and-paste logs... :D


    As I've been reminded before, don't dictate to others how the "game" should be played. If I elect to post short logs and use "cut and pastes" that's my choice. Are you allowed to complain???? You sure can!!!! Do I have to listen and/or care???? I don't think so!!!!!


    Sounds like we got an "ego thang" goin' here!!!!!

  3. Thanks Nick.


    They must use a very poor algorithm. Even the "quick and dirty" method published by the OS gives 1.5 metre accuracy, and the OS freely provide algorithms, worked examples, DLLs and even full applications to a very high degree of accuracy. Any idea if there is anyone at Groundspeak I can take this up with?


    Rgds, Andy


    Only if you can spell meter correctly, Mate!!! :):):)

  4. They don't have gaskets, but that's not the problem. The problem is that the strap gets caught under the lid unless you are very careful to position it out of the way.


    Lock & Locks rule. They have gaskets and positive locking. Like ammo boxes, you know when they're locked shut, and unlike ammo boxes, they don't look like they hold live ammunition.


    Ouch!!!!! :):):) That's like having your you-know-what caught in your zipper!!!!!! :):D:) Attention to detail will ensure you don't get your strap caught between the lip and a hard spot!!!!! :D:):D

  5. I don't know how many folks are experienced with these highly technical pieces of equipment!!!!! I had about 20 years of experience with them. The black ones, training kits, and the green ones, actual decon kits never had gaskets. If closed properly, most were somewhat watertight. While I would not wanted mine to leak, back in the day, it was not a show stopper. The contents of these containers were packed in a watertight packages. Old Army!!!!!!!

  6. I waited until I had about 200 finds before hiding my first cache. It wasn't because I couldn't post accurate coords but that I wanted to see a wide variety of caches before hiding my own. I thought I at least owed that to the folks that had hidden so many great caches for me to find.


    That said, some folks like jumping in with both feet without really having mastered the basics. BTJMO

  7. Sort of, although you left out some at the beginning and separated two means of deadly force. The increasing scale, as I was taught, is:


    1. Command presence, i.e., your presence in a situation

    2. Command voice, i.e., a loud voice

    3. Soft hands, i.e., leading the person away, some compliance holds

    4. Hard hand, i.e., strikes, punches, some compliance holds

    5. Intermediate weapons, i.e., less-than-lethal weapons such as batons, night sticks, saps, stun guns, tasers, and pepper spray

    6. Deadly force, i.e., firearms, knives, ice picks, automobiles, choke holds, etc.


    There are many variations of the above list out there for those who choose to study the matter further. In general, the law states that you must use the least amount of force necessary to stop the attack. As Snoogans eloquently stated above, if you haven't considered these things don't carry a gun until you get trained. With all due respect to the concealed carry instructors out there, a single state-mandated minimum requirement CCW class is not enough. Being a good shot on a square range is not enough. Seek out and take training in the use of force, preferably involving force-on-force scenarios. It's not cheap but it sure beats the alternative.



    Some of the best training is experience. I shoot in IDPA events whenever I can. IDPA = International Defensive Pistol Association. Read this article.



    It effectively simulates some real world experience just by the adrenaline rush and loss of manual dexterity that occurrs with that rush. The courses themselves have little to do with the real world, but the rush you get and the difficulty you have reloading, clearing malfunctions, and just thinking clearly in the moment are quite valuable.



    If you're buff, try shooting IPSC. The International Practical Shooting Confederation is NOT for everyone. Only the buff need apply. Not my cup, but an option for those serious enough to graduate from IDPA.



    As training goes it's a whole lot better than PAYING to listen to some ex-cop/ex-military blowhard talk about their firefights in Nam or down in the hood. LEARN by DOING. Don't bother with videos and seminars.


    Some comments on some of your statements:


    I couldn't agree with you more on your statement that "some of the best training is experience." However, experience involves incorporating practical knowledge and practical exercise. Without practical knowledge, which can be taught in a "classroom setting" all the practical experience in the world is worthless. In the military we call this the crawl, walk, run method. Once an individual has been schooled in the basics, hands-on practical exercises are the best way to reinforce the training.


    However, as stated by pcunningham, one needs to be careful about what procedures are being reinforced during the practical exercises as they may result in "negative" training. I've been involved in military live-fire exercises where safety considerations have outweighed combat reality and resulted in "negative" training.


    You state IDPA "effectively simulates some real world experience just by the adrenaline rush and loss of manual dexterity that occurrs with that rush." Are you positive about that? Have you been in an intense firefight where the guy next to you has just had the side of his face blown off? I don't think there's anything out there that will adequately prepare you for that in the shooting arena.


    Just some thoughts to ponder.



    I'm a firm believer in "you fight like you train." There are too many real world examples of negative training to deny that fact. I stated earlier in this thread, that if you don't practice reloading from the configuration that you carry most often, you might as well leave the extra rounds at home and save the weight in your pack. Make that first shot count and don't think you can spray bullets to make up for lack of skill.



    Yes I'm quite positive that IDPA helps in training for those of us fortunate enough to have not had the experience of live combat. It helps you learn your body's reaction to shooting in a pressure situation. I'm quite sure it's not very much like the real thing, but I hope I never find out first hand either.



    I read and watched videos and attended firearms training seminars as a student and at the instructor level for many years before I shot IDPA. I knew about the 75% loss of manual dexterity that happens in sudden stressfire situations. No amount of study prepared me for the intense physical reaction to actually shooting under stress. IDPA proved the theory through practice like no amount of classroom and independant study had before. I would urge anyone that plans to carry regularly to shoot IDPA at least once to experience their own reaction to shooting under pressure.



    Have you been in an intense firefight where the guy next to you has just had the side of his face blown off? I don't think there's anything out there that will adequately prepare you for that in the shooting arena.



    Umm, yea.... Well, no I've never been in a firefight. I don't believe I made any statements that IDPA shooting would prepare one for real combat. I qualified my statement by using the word, "some."



    Let's take a moment for me to clarify my message. This thread is about cachin' armed. To me, if you don't understand the mechanics of your weapon (how to load, fire, and quickly clear malfunctions) and the theory and laws behind what is and isn't a justified use of force, you shouldn't be carrying a firearm in the first place.



    So, taken as read that these criteria are covered for this thread about cachin armed then YES, IDPA is the best possible training/experience you can get (that I know of) to understand how YOU might possibly react in a stressfire situation. That is valuable knowledge that you can't get from a book, a DVD, or in a classroom. Go back to class if you think you need it, but after my first IDPA event, most of what the experts had to say about their own experiences meant very little to my own.



    Most experts give you the basics, some useful tricks and tips, and fill the rest of the space with stories and experiences that are unique to them alone and of very little use to the student. Hey, it sells books and DVDs though. ;) Go get your own experience shooting IDPA and borrow someone else's Massad Ayoob or Jeff Cooper DVD. You'll save a few bucks.


    Well I guess we agree. Never said that practical exercise, in your case IDPA, was not a good thing however it needs to be incorporated with practical knowledge, some of which may come in the form of classroom instruction. BTJMO.


    BTW, you've now got me interested in IDPA!!! It looks like it will be something else which will vie for my time.

  8. Getting back to the original question...


    I use the aforementioned 5.11 vest. The handgun slips into either frontside of the vest. What I like about the vest are all the pockets for a GPS, PDA, flashlight, batteries, geocoins, handcuffs ;), and even water bottles in the rear. I cache in the Southwest, sometimes very close to the Border - within a stone's throw away. On my early morning hikes, I have come across undocumented migrants. But, they're not the ones I'm worried about. Mountain lions are a constant threat; two fellow cachers have had close encounters, and mtn lion prints are always being sighted.




    I own one of these and I alternate between it and a Molle shoulder pack depending on climatic conditions.

  9. Getting back to the original question...


    I use the aforementioned 5.11 vest. The handgun slips into either frontside of the vest. What I like about the vest are all the pockets for a GPS, PDA, flashlight, batteries, geocoins, handcuffs ;), and even water bottles in the rear. I cache in the Southwest, sometimes very close to the Border - within a stone's throw away. On my early morning hikes, I have come across undocumented migrants. But, they're not the ones I'm worried about. Mountain lions are a constant threat; two fellow cachers have had close encounters, and mtn lion prints are always being sighted.




    I own one of these and I alternate between it and a Molle shoulder pack depending on climatic conditions.

  10. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. I will contact Garmin - that's a good idea. Unfortunately I just loaded the entire City Navigator US and Canada on the 2gig card, so it's unlikely that they'll need to load maps on it ;)


    I have managed to hold it together pretty well through all this, but AlabamaRambler, that note literally put tears in my eyes. Thank you so much. Hopefully I can figure something out, or use my wretched GPS38 until I can scrape together enough cash for a new one. The 60csx was such an amzingly sweet unit that I can't imagine using anything else. I hadn't even had it for a week! Maybe it's time to sell the fender guitar I've been holding on to for nearly 20 years!


    sbell: I guess I could try and use the 38, but man that's gonna suck after the 60! Still, victims can't be choosers :anibad: I don't have any renter's insurance, sadly. No health insurance either, so I'm kinda waiting to see what happens with the ankle, which I know isn't too smart.


    Why not, when you are able to get around again, take your old GPS and some friends and go back and see what bush or hole the kids hid that new GPS in when they realized it was useless to them and would only get them caught? As long as not broken or the LCD sun cooked it should be just fine even left outdoors for a while.


    Need to read all the posts. He has his 60CSx back.

  11. We have caches that regularly get flooded. A tethered, quality container is what you need. Tether is so it will float so there is less positive pressure pushing water in and it's less likely to leak. A sound ammo can with a good seal and always properly closed will last under water for a long time.




    My Row Versus Wade cache can spend weeks or even months under water when the Navidad River is full. Good ol 50 cal. I would estimate it has gotten submerged at least 10 feet under floating on the end of it's tether judging by the flood debris line. It stays dry as a bone though. My Banjo Music akaWhy is Daddy Crying Terracache is closer to the flood line. It hardly gets wet but it has moved to the end of the tether.


    Can you believe it, I'm agreeing with Snoogans!!!!! ;):anibad:;) A good tether and container are the trick. I use 550 cord for my tethers and if the cache is in a flood prone area, a 7.62 or .50 cal ammo can. My final for "Treasure of the Black Pearl" is now under about 8 feet of water and that's factoring in a four foot tether. Unless the tree it's tethered to washes away, it should be good to go but only time will tell. :P:P:P

  12. Sorry, had to be away from the computer today, and I really didn't mean to single out just one person though looking back it would seem I did .

    Just venting that since this was the first time I had come up against this persons actions, it just seemed he was waiting to pounce on and remove a cache. Didn't see him making any effort to repair or replace, even thought I know it is not his responsibility, as a cacher it just seems you would want to.

    Just happened to hit 2 in a row while I was introducing my stepdaughter to caching and ran up against all this first with the GC112MA then the other.

    Please don't turn this into a trashing each other as that was not my intention. I really just wanted to know how others handled situations like this.


    Not trashing others???? If that was your intent, why did you only delete the hider's identity in your original post and not LOE's????? Yeah, right!!!!!!! I don't know how you play the game up north but don't try this stuff in Central Texas.

  13. I'm dealing with two numbers "geniuses" who think the cache we (my hubby, our roomie and I) put together sucks. The guys originally placed it after hubby did a lot of ground work and coded the puzzle. I found a mistake in the puzzle, got the coordinates in the first place, and then moved the cache to a different hide within the 20' maximum mistake variant (more like picked it up, turned 180 and put it back down). So, in a sense, both me and the hubby placed the cache. We chose the location because it was a: close to his work, b: far enough from a fire hydrant as to not be infringing on access, c: not in brambles, and d: yet easy enough for anyone to walk up to it once they decrypted it. 5 Minutes of searching would find it.

    Person no 1 flames me for making such a poor cache and not "following the rules as laid out" both for that cache and another of my caches. their log was inflamatory at best. So I deleted it and then had to justify to them why I deleted it!

    Person no 2 took offence at the fact that I encrypted the log entry of his in the same cache, then did the passive-aggressive routine in emails to the point where he accused me of having something against him, especially since I dnf'ed one of his caches.


    What I really adore about the above two is that one of them at least is retired and both have been caching since the last week of December 2006 at least according to their info. I've been caching for over a year, but had to take a break cause of medical reasons (having a baby does that to a woman). Because they both have several hundred cache finds vs my feeble 70 or so, they believe they know the sport better than I.


    I believe the sport is forever changing with all the myriad variants. One of the versions we've heard about I'm thinking about playing along with intrigues me. So do others.


    Anyway, I've tried to be civil to these two, but I can't anymore. The guys aren't impressed either. And I want to know what to do about them because they are annoying me.


    And how is this post tied to the OP's thread???? :anibad:;);)

  14. Once again, I think they'll notice that LOE did the right and courteous thing by removing the geo-trash after the cache owner archived it.


    There shouldn't be any angst here if this is the way it went down!


    wasn't archived at the time.


    I now know why Texas kids are failing the TAKS Test!!!!! I suggest you read the logs for GC112MA in chronological order. I have and here's the deal:


    17 APR 07 LOE logs find and comments on condition of cache


    22 MAY 07 Another cacher logs find and comments on condition of cache


    24 MAY 07 LOE posts "Needs Maintenance" note


    27 MAY 07 3caseyhunters archive the cache


    31 MAY 07 LOE recovers the geo-trash and states he'll drop it off in another of the owners caches


    Now tell me that the cache wasn't archived before LOE policed up the trash. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!! :anibad:;);)

  15. This happened to my spouse yesterday. She is in Ohio visiting family and was geocaching at a rest area along the highway. She found the cache and proceeded to find another up the road. On the way back, across the road from the first Cache at the rest area, is a cache at the opposite side rest area. She arrived at this second rest area an hour after the first one. A self appointed "homeland security" truck driver having nothing better to do, saw them at the first one and then recognized the car an hour later and called the POLICE. ;)


    The POLICE show up behind the car and my spouse needs to explain what she is doing. the Office said that a truck driver recognized the car and told the police that 2 people were burying things in the woods. He went into the woods to find the first one and when he saw the car across the highway, called the police.


    The officer called a buddy, after she showed him the papers and explained the sport, and his buddy new about it. She told him to tell the driver to place the cache he pulled out of the woods back where he found it so others will be able to find it in the future.


    The officer was nice and let them go and quickly made a U-turn to speak to the truck driver that was standing near his truck on the other side of the road. Hopefully all will be OK with the caches there.


    Anyone else have a story to tell? ;)




    Yes... and yes.





    WOW!!!! After reading your story, they should call you Miss Congeniality!!! :anibad:

  16. Hi all,


    Apologies for being absent for a while, I'm just not really interested in the debates that were going on, and being accused of not being 'situationally aware', twice, was grating a little.


    Here's a final post to thank everyone once again for the kind words, generosity, and support. It really means a lot. The ankle is still splinted, but doing much better, and slogging up and down hills in Wales and Manchester for a week doesn't seem to have done any lasting damage ;) Urban caching is fun, but wow, no comparison. Off to Maine in a few weeks to hopefully track down a few more ammo cans and tupperware.


    The recovered 60csx performed admirably, I'm really glad to have had it returned.


    Take care everyone, see you on the trails.




    While the discussions about "situational awareness" may have been a "little grating," maybe, just maybe, they may have taught you something that may save your hide next time. We, who don't learn from our mistakes are bound to repeat them.


    That said, I'm glad you're on the mend and caching again.

  17. In about 3 years of caching, I've been stopped 3 times by law enforcement but I never felt they their inquiries were unwarranted. First time was by a county sheriff who was checking out my car which was in a parking area of an old Corps of Enginneer park at 0330 hours in the morning. I think I took the guy by surprize when I emerged from the woods. After an exchange of pleasentries, I informed him what I was doing and provided him with the URL off the bottom of my cache page (yes, I'm one of the folks who's not paperless). He thought I was crazy for be out at this time of the morning but I told him it was the best time to get the night cache in the area. After telling me to be careful, he left.


    My second experience was with a local policeman. He was checking out what I was doing along a trail. It appears this area has been used in the past as a quick escape route for folks who have vandalized houses in the area. After explaining what I was doing the officer left as he was already familiar with geocaching.


    My last encounter was probably my best. It was in the New Mexican desert just west of the Texas border and about three miles north of the Mexican border. I was traveling down a dirt track when I noticed a vehicle following from a distance. He kept pace with me for about 15 minutes while mantaining his distance and then closed in while turning on his lights. As he approached I noticed the U.S. Border Patrol markings. The officer pulled me over not to prevent me from caching but to warn me of the not-so-good activities in the area and to ensure I was okay. After providing the warning and wishing me luck with my caching we departed our ways. It was good to know there was someone out there concerned enough to warn us "good guys" about potential problems we could encounter in the area.


    All my encounters have been good so far.


    You're caching with some people, and they find the cache before you do. You didn't find it, so how can you log it? But now, you know where it was hidden, so you can never find it again.



    What a great point!!!!! That's why some of us don't "Geo-Herd." By going solo, I know that I "found" the cache and was not just "along for the ride." :lol::):(


    Geo-Solo!!!! It's the only way to know that "you" really found it!!!!!!!!

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