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"It's all a game and someone has to win." It is not a game, it is an activity, no one has to win. You do "win" though when you say to yourself "Wow! what a nice place, if not for geocaching I may never have known of or come here" That's our take, to each their own ways and reasons though.

Start with a joke, something like, A Geocacher, a Dog and a lawyer walk into a bar.......even if it has no punchline it starts a conversation.

I take lots of pictures, it's part of the whole package. One of my pre geocaching hobbies that fits right in. GT Pipeline Putters.

It adds to and or enhances hobbies we already had. Exploring via ATV or 4x4, Kayaking, Hiking, Photography and just generally being outside.

Update: all three found now. All three had separate first to finders. One via kayak and two via land. The last two sat about three months or more. Temps a bit cooler now.

I generally agree, however if a CO creates a power series, they should expect cut and paste, especially if all the hides are the same. Simply, not a whole lot of new experience to write about every .1 mile. It is the only time I cut and paste a log, but I do it in such cases. As I previously posted, I feel the same way about LPC. Logging in general, really is about the efforts both parties make. A good hide, should result in good logs and comments about their unique experiences. All my LPC finds get SL TFTC! It my respectful way of saying, I appreciate your minimal effort. I agree, wasn't really thinking about power trails or power series. Haven't done any power trails and don't plan on doing any. Have done a local series but hit it a few at a time over three or four months. Have a new series in the area and have only hit a few on a couple of different occasions. But I guess I would have to agree, if someone is doing a power trail some pretty short and similar logging is probably in order.

My/our two cents. If the day comes that I/we don't have time to write a little something about each individual find or no find it is time to hang it up. If we hit too many in a day and can't write an individual log than we hit too many that day. Definitely not a numbers game. And to the newer cachers. Don't follow the TFTC thing. No, a short online log is not what most want. Don't cut n paste without customizing each log. It does not have to be a paragraph. Long is good but a quality sentence is fine. If you write something nice but cut n paste it to the other 20 you found that day it means nothing. Even if you cut n paste the same log to 20 different hiders it is still seen. Just a bit of our two cents

1. Blank log 2. Lone smiley face 3. Lone TFTC or the like TFTCTFTHTNSL etc etc 4. Lone cut n paste (cut and paste plus something written about the individual cache is okay) 5. Not logging DNF's (like to see these as a seeker too)

We have twenty hides, all basic but have thought of making one premium and only for that reason. Mostly just curious how the feature works and see who is looking.

Good answer.....that's what immediately came to mind whether that be the correct answer or not.

I'm awake now. You just generalized two groups. So are we to take it all teenagers are wood trashing cachers. And all offroad vehicle operators cause damage. What you should have said is that some cachers were trashing the woods. By pointing out that they were teenagers you tend to imply that all teenage cachers might be bad. As far as the offroad crowd, like any other group there are bad apples. If an off road vehichle stays on the legal and established trails then they do no damage to the forest. It would be the, let's be nice and call them "uneducated" offroaders that cause damage. Don't forget that many geocachers are also offroaders and that is their method of transportation to get to some of the cache areas. You could have just generalized and said "Geocachers trash the forest and cause damage". By the way the offroad remark is the one that "woke me up" I'm not quite a teenager any more.

I would guess that "they" are not willing to take the risk of "us" jeopardizing these fragile, sensitive, historic, etc areas. "We" can try to assure them all we want but it can take as few as one visit to do damage. I hate to say it but I would venture to say there are plenty of placements out there that cause damage. A very hard to find micro located at ground zero of an old stone building for one example. At some point, perhaps at arrival, one might decide this is not a good idea or perhaps one might search determined to find at any cost. GT Pipeline Putters

Most go pretty quick, although we hid three over a month ago and two are still not found (at least per computer logs). They are all three on a river and will be found easiest via boat, jet ski, kayak or canoe as they were placed via kayak. A bit hot for any kind of hike to them right now.

If you put requirements or suggestions on a caches logging it would probably be met with a lot of negativity and get the opposite of the request in many situations. As far as logging, this beginner says log what you feel.......or be nice and if you feel nothing say something about the weather along with the thanks. Or how looking for this lame cache was still better than watching reruns of Judge Judy.

I wouldn't imagine too many loggers put any thought into whether their log will help someone find clues. If they think about it at all it should be to make sure they don't give any clues. At least not any real obvious ones (once again, if any).

We have a few hides, nothing creative or spectacular, mostly just easy finds in nice areas. We don't really expect any great write ups but a sentence or two is always nice. Don't care much for the TFTC or the lone smiley face log but if that's what we get then no big deal. What bugs "me" even more is when I see the found, TFTC or smiley face on one of the really nice caches in the area that someone has put a lot of thought and creative effort into. When I see a TFTC on one of those my thoughts are "really? that's it?" I mean, come on you've got to have something more to say than that, even on real basic ones if you can't think of something to say about the cache how about who you were with, what was the weather like, how long did it take, could you smell the dairy farm from the cache etc etc......something. GT Pipeline Putters

I like the muggle part too where he puts the gps to his ear like it's a phone. I don't do too many caches that involve muggles but have done that on occasion. I imagine it is a pretty common move and I just thought I was a smart one. GT Pipeline Putters

Maybe they need a favorite system for Power Trails....then the Power Trailers could rate the Power Trails as opposed to the number one geocache of the thousand or however many geocaches on the power trail there might be. To each their own but my idea of a Power Trail is a nice long challenging trail with a geocache at the end and the power source being a Polaris Sportsman 500 but that's just me.

It's for this

Good to hear. We took ours for the first time a few months back and she loved it. We re-visited some really good kid ones we had found previous without any kids along. Now she has gotten daddy into it (our son) and goes with him quite often. She/They also got the other set of grandparents in on caching and they also love it. Quite the mover and shaker at 4 years old.

It is not the so much the bush as it is what surrounds the bush and or the trek to get there. A cache in a bush or a pile of rocks is fine as long as the surrounding area is special and or the trek getting there is nice and or challenging. As far as the favorites they belong to the cacher to appoint as they see fit, all the way from King Geocacher to the newest of newbies. There is a way to see who favorited the cache and make your decision based on that information.

"Speaking words of wisdom" "Let it be"

Make sure it has lots of stickers............just kidding

Been into offroad exploring for years, mostly ATV and using a GPS since the early days. Went on a club ride that posted we would be stopping at two geocaches if anyone was interested. I had heard of geocaching before but thought it had something to do with rocks (I guess I was somewhat right with a lot of the caches out here)I got a quick run down on what we were looking for and quickly spotted it. Told my wife about it when I got home and although I thought it interesting she was more excited about it than I was.....Wow! a way to get my wife out exploring. You can never have too many riding/exploring partners. Now that we have been at it for a while I am quite a bit more into it than she is but she does still go every now and then. She likes truck based off road geocaching that we can take the dogs with.

a little kayaking and planted three caches while doing it.