Are There Any Standards Here? in Benchmarking Posted September 2, 2004 FtMgAl, I understand the where of you speak. I too have have done what you did while in college. I still do it as part of my work. In fact thanks to automation, Today we often do it alone, One guy is the whole crew quite often. Today After working in the Laptop, making sure all the points i had to survey were properly assigned, I set up a robot for my GPS so my Rover could see where the Sattelites wont, up close to forrested area. Hubbed and staked 1000 feet of road, offset for curbs on both sides of a road, Centerline grades and super elevation transtition points, Points of curve, points of tangent etc. I had to Pound all my own hubs in hard soil and write all my own sticks, tie on all the flagging, lug all my gear, Write down all my work, develop a point sheet and cut sheet for the contractor... yada yada... The drugery of the old school rear chainman has not gone away, In fact, as you can see, the rear chain and the party chief are now often the same guy. In fact, they expect as much production as ever. I still have to keep my Machete sharp if you get my meaning. Either way, I know what I do makes a difference, and I think there are other careers that I would not enjoy, so I do this. When I think of myself in the middle of a large office building in a cubical under florescent lighting as opposed to being outside doing battle with a blackberry bush to place a corner stake... Well, the blackberry bush ain't so great, but I think I'll keep it in trade for the cubical. that is just me. Go ahead and laugh, I am! Constuction in the real world happens and progress sometimes take a Bench Mark out. I know of a few here on GC.com that have been reported good until something came along in the last year and changed that. This is just another database Bro, not unlike the NGS database. Things that once were found can become lost, just as easy as that. Say la vie.... When it comes down to it, those old timers you apprenticed under years ago did rub off on you. You know how painful it can be to make double sure, and internally it is the way you feel it should be. Good on you! Sure there are short cuts and ways of bending the rules, but you and I both know shortcuts are throat cuts. This is a game to some and an engineering challenge to others. I will continue to recover Bench Marks the way I feel I should and I will report them as such. If someone reads my recovery and feel it was the most helpful and accurate, then I did my job. If someone learns from the methods I use that is cool too... I learn from others as well. This is not about looking over my shoulder. I set my standards. I feel when it comes right down to it, your personal history, honesty and integrity will be your guide.