james__12345

That right there is CLASSIC! I would love to come across something like that. It would be hard to keep from laughing with every one you open. That is just wrong. I may have to do one of these some time. I have an interesting twist for it though, if i can make it work.

That is crazy.

Don't expect the bugs or coins to actually be there though lol. Of my 51 finds, I found probably 5 or 6 caches that were said to contain bugs or coins, only to find they werent there. When I did finally find my first bug, it was in a cache that wasn't listed as having a bug when I looked at it. It had been added after I looked at the info page. The first coin I found was supposed to be a different coin than the one I actually found there, etc.

Not exactly. The OP did the right thing. If a cache is soaking wet then it does need maintenance. If it was mine I'd want to know so we could fix it ASAP! I agree, OP did the right thing. If its wet, there's probably a reason (that needs to be dealt with). Also, if its wet, any other log paper included, thats not waterproof or placed in a bag, will very soon be as wet as the original log. In my short time caching, I have already seen instances where the found it logs included information about repairs that needed to be made, that went un answered for a long time. I assume thats because the person who hid it doesn't read all the found it logs. Thats why there is a different button for that.

Yes, it was the original log book with previous signatures. We put it in a plastic bag and tied it to a tree to perserve it from the elements and notified the owner who since archieved it. To bad it was a nice piece of history. So then is a container found with no log in it a no find. I have never came across this situation yet. Just curious. My guess would be a no find because you don't know you have the correct container. But if you knew and or contacted owner of cache and they assured you it was the container I would call it a find log book or no log book beings I had found the correct item that I was looking for. Any opinions on that? Just found your last example. It was a contact holder that had a magnet attached to it, spray painted silver, hid on the back of a guard rail behind the post. It did not have a log sheet in it though. I think we can all agree that the chances of that not being the right container is about the same as winning the lottery. I counted that one a find with out a second thought. In the story mentioned earlier, where they just physically could not open the jar, but could see the logs, etc inside, I would say that logging that as a find would be ok too. If its a case where the container has a combination lock, and you get the combination from the clues that would be different, but if its because of rust, etc. then I say log it. I would mention the situation in the log though, and give the owner the chance to delete it if they see fit.

Had my first ever run in with a cacher at GZ a little while back. It was a FTF. I had started at one end of the trail, he had started at the other. I had found. There were four on the trail that were all part of the boyscout series. I had found one, he had found two, and we met in the middle and worked together on the last one. The coords were a little off, so it took us a while. He finally found it, in a spot we had both looked SEVERAL times. The ftf prizes in the series were a boyscout geocaching "get in the game" badge. I had one from an earlier ftf in the series, and one from the ftf earlier that day, and he also had one from his ftf earlier that day, so we both agreed to leave it for the next finders. I was very pleased to find out after reading the logs later, to find out it was actually a boyscout team that found the cache after us. It was a guy with two kids with him. They got the badge from the cache me and the other cacher found together, and the badge from his second find ont he trail. I thought it was cool how it worked out that both kids on the trip got a badge from the trip. Turns out the cacher I ran into was the hider for another cache I found in the same park, and a couple others I have found since. Its nice to put a face with a name that you've seen on a lot of hides, and a lot of logs.

I would LOVE a 50 bmg keychain talk about large caliber I actually just found a 357 case the other day, but just a case, no keychain, no name on it, just the case. Still traded one of my keychains for it though. I'm thinking I might make some of those soon. I think I'll start with the steel case 7.62 I've got.

Minor quibble. They may have been drafted back during the time of that war. You're right. The draft was before my time, so when discussing this type of topic i tend not to refer to the draft, because usually i'm discussing a more modern conflict where there wasn't a draft. Thanks for the correction. Back to the major point here, I agree that the stuff in the description is a QUOTE from a HISTORICAL EVENT. That is history, regardless whether the person who originally made the statement had an agenda or not. Refering to a quote from history, is not promoting an agenda, it is education. If further statements are made agreeing with the statements or supporting them, thats another story, but quoting history is just quoting history, nothing more, nothing less.

That was wrong. I should have known not to look, but i did. Atleast it wasn't all bad haha.

There is actually a cache here ON a train. An engine to be specific. It is part of a small museum here with several information plaques around and all that. The engine the cache is on is not an active track, but there is a track a few feet away that is active once a year. They do one ride a year to nashville just so people can say they rode a train and learn about it a little. I made the trip YEARS ago with school and it was really cool. I also enjoyed going back and grabbing the cache, because it was neat seeing the details of all the moving parts etc. of the train.

Been at it since september, so far I haven't for sure ran into anyone, but at one cache in a park a girl walking with her mom saw me with my GPSr in my hand. She then smiled real big, got her moms attention, and didnt point at me, but made sure mom noticed me too. From her reaction I have a feeling they were probably cachers too, but as far as i was from where the nearest cache ACTUALLY was, I'm pretty sure they werent hunting at the time.

Replacing a log sheet that you've found is one thing. Throwing down a new container when you haven't found the original is WRONG. You have no way of knowing for sure if you just missed it. Even with a few other DNFs you should at most post needs maintenance or needs archived. You shouldn't just throw down a container.

Why would you want to waste good brass RELOAD lol. On a more serious note, I agree, with out some personalization they'd probably just look like trash. The addition of a keyring like shown above would definatly solve the concern with people thinking they're live ammo (i hope). Personally, being a gun guy I'd love something like that. Another suggestion for you on attaching the chain if you decide to, knock the primer out the back, and epoxy a carter pin (ask at the hardware store) into the hole. A friend of mine has done that before, and now that you've reminded me of it, I might start making some of them my self.

I make small snake knot keychains to trade on. They're about three inches long, but have about three feet of string in them, so if you're ever out and need some string, they might be useful.

I have been to Hawaii twice, and on one trip I visited Pearl Harbor. Its a very moving experience to say the least. As far as the high percentage of Japanese visitors, I think it has alot to do with the sheer number of Japanese tourists there. Since the islands are about as close to them as the US, there are a LOT of Japanese people there. As far as whether the cache is acceptable or not, the stuff in the page is a quote from when the President of the United States presented the medal. It is a part of history. I also disagree with the statement that supporting or honoring a soldier automaticly supports war. The soldiers dont decide where to fight, they dont decide when and where we go to war. They offer their life to protect their country as the military leaders see fit. You can honor their sacrifice with out agreeing with the war they fought in.

First of all I'd like to say that it is unbelievable to me that so many people would be so rude and inconsiderate to someone making their first post here. Disagreeing is one thing, but the type of comments being made here are uncalled for in my opinion. Personally, I agree that a checker system should be required to be a part of the page. I understand the complaint that they are an outside system, but there's no reason Groundspeak couldn't include one of thier own. Just because its there doesn't mean you have to use it, but there are those of us who would like to have it. I don't agree though that there should be a system to just give you the coordinates for puzzles or multi's that would take away from the purpose and challenge of the cache. A checker requires that you figure it out first, so you've still had to do the work, so in my opinion that doesn't really take anything away.

I'm not a premium member, so the pq thing doesn't really apply for me. What i do is use the google map feature to find all the caches in the area I'm going, then print the sheets so I have the notes available. One cache a couple days ago I didn't have the sheet for, and I didn't find it that night because I was looking in an area a couple feet away that fit the clue in the name. Because of the location I was expecting a micro in a rock pile. Turns out it was actually a rather large fake rock a few feet away. Had I had my sheet I'd have got it the first time around. Long story short, google maps, then print everything in a couple mile area.

For reference I am not of the Sikh faith. I am Christian (Presbyterian to be specific). I would not have any issues using Christian references (not sure what that would be, but as long as its not derogatory to the faith I don't mind). So I would say it is an OK name. When in doubt go ask a member of the Sikh faith. Clearly you have access to a community of them if you just cross the road For extra points get the thumbs up from a Sikh leader (apologies for not knowing what title this person holds). This way if anyone does get extra sensitive and complains you can come back and say that the leader of the temple said it was ok, and they should take the matter up with him. I think that's probably the best advice given yet. If you're concerned they may be offended, just ask them, that way you're getting it straight from the horses mouth.

The way I read the rules that is not allowed either. It says if you place something at the site then it still has to be the .1 mile away, because its a physical stage, not a non-physical stage The described situation complies. WP1 is a physical stage not closer than 0.1 mi to another physical container, WP2 is a non-physical point to take an offset to the physical final. The final observes the 0.1 mi limit. WP2, since it is not a physical container, does not need to observe the 0.1 mile limit. Sorry, I must have misread that. Maybe something was changed in the wording by that edit right as I quoted it or something?? Not sure how I would have taken what is quoted there the way I obviously did if I thought it wasn't allowed. Didn't mean to cause any confusion, sorry for the mixup.

I'm kinda new to this, so I would like some opinions on something. What if you find the cache, open it, and the log is so wet it looks like trying to unfold it will destroy it. Can you count that if you mention the circumstances in the log?

The way I read the rules that is not allowed either. It says if you place something at the site then it still has to be the .1 mile away, because its a physical stage, not a non-physical stage

Um......why? I would think that if any kids make it out to the middle of nowhere they are probably responsible, or experienced, enough to have that knife. You can't just remove things just because you don't like them. I'd love to find a nice new knife in a cache. "Cache Contents Use your common sense in most cases. Explosives, fireworks, ammo, lighters, knives (including pocket knives and multi-tools), drugs, alcohol or other illicit material shouldn't be placed in a cache. As always respect the local laws. Geocaching is a family activity and cache contents should be suitable for all ages. " knives are against the rules, so i would say that you'd almost be wrong not to remove it.

I have just started making snake knot key chains that are about 3 inches long. I'm using a product similar to paracord. Interesting knot, it takes about a foot of string to make an inch of the knot, so they take three feet of the string. I like them because they can be untied if you have an emergency need for string. I also have a necklace made out of the stuff that i wear hunting. It has about 30 feet of the stuff in it. Great survival tool. I'll post a pic a little later today.

There are a few caches around where I go to college. A couple of them I go to every couple days and take a fresh look to see if anything pops out at me, but I cant always look really well because of muggles in the area. I dont post a DNF every time I'm there, but once I feel I've given the area a fair look I will. One of them I think I've even logged DNF twice now, since I've been looking for a couple months. I have even talked, IN PERSON, to the owner and he told me he has went back and checked and they're fine. Its just me, but I dont log every trip over there, because I know it would make his hide look like it might not be there. I don't agree with deleting a DNF log, but at the same time, I dont think you should post one if you've only spent 5 mins looking for the cache.