Texasbagman

Excellent, thank you.

OK gurus, I have a Magellan Merigold and Palm m505 PDA. I want to try the paperless route and download the cache info to my PDA. Can it be done with this setup? If so, how does it work? At the present, if I find a cache I want to go to, I download the waypoint to EasyGPS and then send it to my GPSr. But there is no info like hints or of cache details. So what software do I need and what steps does it take to do this? I'm assuming Cachmate is one, but I'm not real quick on the uptake when it comes to software and setting things up like that. On my PC I'm running Win 98SE. Thanks.

Oh thank goodness. Someone came up with a term I can use without feeling like an idiot. CLAMS. Thanks.

OK, thanks. I will do just that.

First off, I'm sorry if I come off the wrong way. I tend to be very direct and that gets me in crossways on boards occasionally. I don't desire to make enemies out of any of you. I have emailed the cache owner. We will see what happens there. As to not posting a note in the cache description about being on private property and having permission, I can think of no reason to not post a note, and many to post a note. You don't need my credentials for going after a cache as you hold no responsibility for my actions. I/we do need a note or statement on the cache page of permission from the property owner that it is OK to enter their property for the purposes of finding the cache. Why? Because if we don't have permission, we are breaking a law. If you didn't have permission, you broke a law in putting the cache there. Surely anyone can see that difference. Thank you.

Thanks for the advice. I didn't want to hit the "should be achived" log until I asked some more experienced cachers. My main worry is that someone will get in trouble looking for this cache. I know I'm not responsible, but that doesn't change my concern for a persons well being.

So you are volunteering as a test case?

I just read this again. WOW, that is one seriously ignorant statement. So there is no problem until someone gets arrested or shot??? Do you know that it is quite legal to shoot someone for criminal mischief on private property at night in Texas? Several cachers have hit this cache at night, including myself and my wife. Think before you post. What Renegade Knight was saying is pretty much straight forward. I don't see anything ignorant about it, it is just a statement of fact. Think before you cache. If you had qualms about doing that particular cache, why did you go ahead and log it? As in anything it is best to err on the side of caution. Which was more important to you- getting shot at or getting another smiley? I didn't "log it". I posted a note. What in HELL are you talking about? I stopped today after I noticed the signs I wrote about. The first time I was there was at night and I never found the cache. So I didn't get a "Smiley" or "found it". So again, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Did you bother to read my post? I didn't dispute her comments. I agreed. I said, "all that may be true, but" . The only thing I added was that it needed to be stated on the cache page. I have already emailed the cache owner. I also checked the last time they have been on this site. It was January of this year. FWIW, I have attempted to contact two cache owners about questionable/missing caches and have to date received ZERO response after two/three weeks. In case you didn't know, private property rights in Texas are very important. Walking around on someone else property is not a good way to keep your record clean and keep from getting shot.

I just read this again. WOW, that is one seriously ignorant statement. So there is no problem until someone gets arrested or shot??? Do you know that it is quite legal to shoot someone for criminal mischief on private property at night in Texas? Several cachers have hit this cache at night, including myself and my wife. Think before you post.

Actually, you checking a box about adequate permission is useless to any cacher that gets caught of private property without permission. Your checking a box has absolutely ZERO legal standing. Any cache on private property should be marked as such on the cache page. Especially if there are "No Trespassing" signs at one end of the property.

All that may be true, but it needs to be stated on the cache page. Especially when you are walking around on property that has a house/home back in the woods that you can't see from any road.

I think a cache in my area is on private property and it is not mentioned in the description. I posted a note on the cache page about my concerns. How or should I report it to Geocaching.com?

Never take a knife to a gun fight.

Oh yeah, needs repeating.

I could care less what some other country does. I live in the USA. Further more, I live in Texas. Texas law says that any knife with a blade less than or egual to 5.5" is legal to have on you. The only reason I could ever think to care what other countries do is if I had to go there. Then it would matter. It doesn't matter whether you are geocaching or selling or... laws in other parts of the world are meaningless here. Or at least for the time being. One of the mods/reviewers here gave the reason for this rule. Others have given the reasons they have seen. I have to accept those as gospel.

2??? Maybe you spelled something wrong then. a search on the 2 words... pocket knives Turned up many hits. Then again I searched for topics over 30 days old. The reasons are in there. Are you looking for a fight? I searched with the terms "pocket knives". If I do it now, I get three hits, with my thread included. Did it ever occur to you that I wanted new, or recent threads? If you don't have any other objective than to criticize my searching method, then go away, I don't need your "help".

Captain Chaoss, Thanks buddy. I appreciate the welcome. I've been posting of internet forums for probably the last five years. Some political, but mostly firearms related forums. I'm new to Geocaching, but WOW, this is cool. Anyway, I'm constantly seeing members of forums telling noobs to "use the search function, this has been discussed to death". When in fact, it hasn't been. Or the search function needs more detail, or... But again, thank you for the welcome. This is a great hobby.

Well... I tried your search idea before I posted this. It turned up two hits on "pocket knives", neither of which discussed why they were taboo.

OK Care to clarify?

I think it starts with a T and ends with a G and has a lot of ROLLIN' in between.

The above is quoted from the rules of placing a cache. I can understand SOME of this prohibited items. But pocket knives and multi-tools? Give me a break. EVERYONE has some form of pocket knife or multi-tool on or about them at just about any time. In the car, in the pocket, in a desk drawer...somewhere. So, what gives. Why the prohibition on this items in caches? This really puts a snag in my plans for my first cache.

People can convince themselves of anything. Even when no logic can back it up.

So why don't you illuminate us with your knowledge and tell us how many children are killed in firearms accidents each year?

That statement is simply STUNNING. I will remember it for a long time as an excellent example of the difference between the Wolf, the Sheep and the Sheepdogs. Thanks.