We had the same reaction about the multi-cache placements. Especially when some logs have noted it was difficult to find. But, with the number of TB's in each cache, it could take a while for some to get moving from either. So, I guess we'll all just have to hope for the best and cross our fingers that, with better weather coming, cachers will start getting out, visit these two sites and really get this race going. I'm just hoping Utsman finds time soon to update the racer page, or post a note here, so we'll feel more like this adventure has really started.