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quote:Originally posted by Feros Family: I was at both of them caches in "question" yesterday. I thought he did a mighty fine job! Well, if all caches were like "them", a lot of trees would get destroyed or damaged. It is people like this that show a complete disregard for the actual Nature - while saying that they are bringing people out to Nature - that are giving our sport/hobby a black eye to folks like Park Rangers, Earth-Firsters (of which I am strongly against, thanks for asking) and those morons in ELF. quote:Dang tree huggers!!! Worm Hole took me a bit do to the fact I am not a tree hugger!!! Just because the difficulty was tough for you doesn't mean that it is a good/cool/acceptable cache. I am glad that Jeremy archived these if only to discourage others from repeating a foolish way to hide a cache. quote:Geez what's next? We can't leave tupperware containers due to the fact we are polluting? Gimmi' a @*&$@#!^% brake! What's next is a ban in all public use areas of the destructive act of Geocaching if this kind of behavior is aloud to propagate. It would be a bit tougher if the cache placer had put his brain to placing a well-camoflaged container that emulated the outside of the tree instead of claiming his right of manhood to use his new "tool" indiscriminately. Or is he to testosterone-filled to get a clue? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by BruceS: Tom, welcome to geocaching. ...(and of the over 600 caches I have found they are the only two that I have seen like this). I found these 2 in the dark so I did not really notice how the holes were made. Bruce Wow! 611 caches! Bruce, I looked at your profile and I don't know how you do it. Are you inhuman? Three or four days in a row with 19 to 20 caches per day? I'm living in the wrong part of the country and I want the phone number to the government agency that installed your bionic parts! I didn't know that there was anyone with this many caches found. Do you have a life outside of caching? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by mrcpu: Can you find someplace that has coupons or sells gift certificates. Maybe you can make a deal with a local store for a gift certificate for the popcorn? Rob That's funny Rob... I posted right behind you. Two minds, one thought? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by infosponge: I've wondered about animals affinity for coffee. Any thoughts? I roast my own coffee beans from the green beans and would love to leave some packets of fresh roasted coffee beans (not ground) in some caches. Coffee has an extremely strong aroma and that is why smugglers try and disguise their drugs by packing it in coffee, to throw the dogs off. Any food with a high oil content would bad for a cache, and coffee has a lot of oil... that is what makes it so appealling....... coffee, coffee... I need MORE! As for popcorn, see if you can get gift certificates from your local video rental store for free popcorn and place those with the movie. It would work for me. I like anything free. Coffee. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRedCoffee KF6VFI - Coffee "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." - Coffee GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite I, uh, like coffee...

quote:Originally posted by Lazyboy & Mitey Mite: One thing that might make users wary of such a remote cache is the cacher has one find and one hidden. But with better weather on it's way, I suppose I just might find a weekend where I can head down there and grab it fairly soon. Wonder if the river is slow enough there to allow a canoe to cross. Or I could just bring the scuba gear. That's true and the main reason we haven't headed out there sooner... okay, that and we don't have a boat. And the mention of rattlesnakes... and the fact that we really don't think it would be a suitable cache to take the kids on. I've thought of sending them email to see if they have checked up on it, if they live nearby and can offer any tips, etc. I'll do that now... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

I was playing with Photoshop the other day and put this together. I made them into small magnets and plan on placing them in caches... I know that there is a copyright issue here, but I'm not planning on selling them. Whaddaya think?

quote:Originally posted by Hawk-eye:http://home.triad.rr.com/ralloh/Markwellsmall.gif Hawk-Eye? How long did it take you to put that together? Very, very funny! Some folks just have WAY too much time on their hands... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Many, many years ago my family and I were traveling the wide world and my brother got a tick... right in between his shoulder blades. We noticed it a few hours after it latched on. We stopped to visit friends and the mom is a nurse. She doused the tick and surrounding area with Campho-phenique (sp?)... that tick couldn't have backed out faster. It also cleaned and disinfected the bite area. Is this method no longer useful? I still see campho in stores.

I am currently putting together a themed cache and the items are rather large, if not heavy. I needed a larger than average container. I've been working on this problem for months and finally came up with a solution: Gallon or larger-sized food containers from restaurants. In one evening we were offered four very nice and perfectly suitable (for what I'm doing, anyway) containers that had at one time held food products... one restaurant even ran the two they gave us through their industrial dishwasher and the inside was nice and clean. The other two will take some soaking to get the grease out. But they have nice, tight lids and are designed to not allow leakage in or out. I'm preparing to use some of the hints on other threads to disguise the one for my next cache. Has anyone else discovered this free source? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by oregone: But I don't think we're up for 25 in one day in such foreign surroundings. The elevation change alone is enough to make us winded after 5. Don't know why... I find this REAL hard to believe! quote:Tell me, are there crabcakes in Klamath Not that I know of... but as I said, there is always sushi. How's about a crab roll? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Heck, me and Steak did 12 while night caching in Grants Pass! Most of those were the "I hate I-5" series and most of the others were near the freeway if not right off of it. Oregone... you'll be hitting KF next month? So, does this mean that you AREN'T making the trip to Karen's Klamath Cache challenge by May 10th...??? Hmmm??? Inquiring minds... And you'd better let us know the date you'll be there, maybe we'll see you at some caches? What's the address of a good brewery? How about a sushi cache in Ashland? I'm up for that!

I agree that there just shouldn't be a lot of unenforceable rules... my rear isn't so tight that I expect everyone to think and act exactly as I do while enjoying this sport. But... As was mentioned before, the person who plans, organizes and places a geocache is doing so because they want to see if others will come visit their creation and if they do, whether or not they enjoyed their visit. In some cases, a great deal of money and time goes into placing a cache. I believe that the person who seeks and finds the cache owes the owner the courtesy and consideration of letting them know it has been found, what condition it is in and their opinion on the subtibility of the area in general. It may be an ego-thing, but if only 1 in four visitors to my cache logged it online, I would become discouraged and stop placing caches. The same is true for Travel Bugs. They cost money. There is a bit of thought that goes into the item/bug/attachment to that little tag, and the story surrounding it that encourages others to pick them up and share their geocaching travels with the little visitors before leaving them for someone else to share. A TB needs it's placement, pick-ups and drop-offs, recorded on the website in order for the mileage, etc. to get calculated. If one cannot be considerate enough to post the pick-up and placement of TB's, they shouldn't take them from caches. Yeah! --- RedwoodRed (trying to refrain from adding my "long and overly cutsie" tagline/sig).

quote:Originally posted by oregone: i know that a lot of cachers want to come to portland for "the contact cache." and redwood red and steak n' eggs were recently here to do just that. i just think it would be kinda neat to make a little booklet or something for people. then again, maybe the forums provide all the info they would need. i don't know. This is a WAY COOL idea! Of course we had the world famous and very generous Fractal to introduce us to the basic bustle of Hillsboro (YUM - Pizza Schmizza!) and aid us in finding our hotel, but I can't imagine that everyone coming to your Pacific Northwest metropolis will be so blessed. I was really hoping to see the famous digs where Oregone leans on the bar and seduces semi-innocent women, but hey, we had the kids with us! Now, that spot should definitely be on the Official Tour! I highly recommend the place that we stayed (it is only 1.5 miles from Contact Cache), as the rooms are large and they have a nice (free) continental breakfast if you can get motivated before 10 a.m. (not one of my strong points). I also picked up a ton of tourist brochures for our next trip up (probably around early Fall, when it begins to cool off). Oregone, I nominate you as Portland's Embassador of Cache! Viva la Placemente! (can you tell I've been up late night-caching again?) --- RedwoodRed

quote:Originally posted by oregone: Gee, I hate to stir up the pot here, but it sure would be a shame if some city-slicker like me or explosis headed down there to be the first finder on this one. *cough* *cough* (april21) *cough* *sniffle* Hey! Do you think I would have brought it to your notice if I didn't want others to at least TRY?! Not bloody likely... April 21st, huh? If you are really planning something with Explosis, Oregone, let me know and we'll bring the video camera and film you guys falling in the water! We learned of a backroad into that area yesterday - one that doesn't require traversing the dreaded 299 Highway (aka: The Highway of Doom). If you're serious about it, we'll have Rollin' Rebel's new truck and two quads by then and we'll meet you in Granties Panties and guide you in. That bottle of Sangria has to be vinegar by now, so I'll bring some Arrogant Bastard (no, not Steak!) Ale and a bottle of Jose... oh, and our tents, etc. Make a day of it? Whaddaya Say? RedwoodRed says: "Play Safe, Accidents Cause People"

Geez, I suck! I was born in Southern California. My Mom is a native Californian. My Dad migrated from Kansas. I moved to coastal Northern California so as not to shoot some idiot during a freeway commute (really, I had that b.b. gun in my sweaty hand...). I've lived in Crescent City since '89. I came with a So. Cal. attitude, but the rain washed it away. My kids were born here, and I refuse to let them grow up someplace worse or more dangerous. There aren't as many opportunities for work here, but I've managed to get around that and make my own opportunities. Now Steak... that boy was born in Ohio. His Mom moved him to Moss Landing (near Monterey) until he was seven and then they moved to Brookings. That's where I found him. Took him six years of living with me to get a California license, and he still keeps his Oregon license... he doesn't want to let go! It is funny, Californians treat us like we're Oregonians and Oregonians treat us like we have a plague... even when we bring our money there to shop. I've considered moving to Newport (you'll never get me away from the coast), but it is hard to relocate a business like mine. Don't think bad of me... I might as well be an Oregonian! I'm more a resident of Obfuscation. Oh, and Monterey IS NOT Northern California, no matter what anyone says! Look on the map - it's in the middle of the state, just like San Francisco! I live in the REAL Northern California... 24 miles from the Oregon border! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Okay you Southern Oregonians and Northeastern Californians... There is a CACHE that will have it's first birthday celebrated without being found on May 10th. Karen's Klamath Cache, though a 4/4 rated cache, would probably not be so tough if we worked together to get it found. Somebody got a boat? My challenge is this: Are we hard-core geocachers going to let this cache celebrate it's difficulty? I would like to suggest that a group of us get together on a specified date and try and nab it, OR plan a get-together nearby somewhere and find it then... I suppose they are the same thing, but I think that the latter may attract more folk than the former. I'm open for suggestions! Watch, now that I've brought it up, someone will find it solo and rub it in my nose... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Who, me? I agree that things got tense after the "big change" and that was why I stopped reading or contributing to the forums for a few weeks. I haven't even visited the chat sessions, are they still happening? And I don't consider this an impersonal place to attack someone on the other side of the continent, but that is just me. Anyone who knows me knows that if I'll write it, say it on the radio, etc., I will back it up in person. I've been told that I have "*alls that clank"... though I don't know if that is a compliment. To keep it simple, speaking my mind, in person or in writing, has never been something I balk at. I attempt to be diplomatic and I don't reduce my discussions to foul-language, slang and slander. Just the facts - as I see them. If I have offended anyone, I apologize. Not for what I may have said, but I'm sorry if they were offended. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by Night-Sky: I would love to see tank tops with the logo for those hot summer days when the fleece jacket comes off. Hey! Jamie will be happy (and Mopar, Choberiba and Steak for three more!), but they DO sell tank tops. Click Here - it is the Cafe Press Geocaching.com store... there is also drink mugs and boxer shorts! Now, I'd pay to see Jamie Z, Choberiba and Mopar in those! How about it, guys? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: Then by your own argument, you must be out of line attempting to control my participation in this thread. Note that the "rights" you mention aren't really "rights" at all; they are merely practices that have not been deemed "unacceptable" by the site owner. I don't see my "request" (I said PLEASE, after all.) as an attempt at controlling your participation. You are right, there is no written guideline that Jeremy expects each cache to adhere to or not be posted to the site. He assumes, right or wrong, that most of us are adults, intelligent and responsible for our actions. It is also assumed, by the frequent posts to that affect, that common sense should take precident whenever a cache is placed and when one choses to hunt them. Common sense would dictate that if there isn't a rule against cache placers making rules about their caches, then they CAN, and will. Each of us can and should use common sense when making the descision of whether or not to seek these caches, and that entails being prepared which would include reading all of the directions before attempting a find. Those who don't read the rules/warnings/cautions/suggestions and then are disappointed or injured do so at their own risk. Evidently you didn't understand, or chose not to acknowledge MY thinly-veiled point: You calling the cache placer arrogant and manipulative in this instance is in and of itself arrogant and manipulative - not to mention condescending and aggressive - by your own use of phrasing and your unending posts in what seems to be an attempt to gain the "last word", as you seemingly attempt to do in all of the subjects on this forum in which you participate. Am I attacking you personally? If I am it is in the same manner in which you called the cache placer who originally posted this thread manipulative and arrogant. You know, but I could be wrong. Maybe you typed that comment with a smile on your face. The printed word, though accurate in conveying an idea or thought does not easily convey the emotion of the author. So, if I understood your original comments to be an attack, personal or not, on the author of this thread, I hope you will understand that my above comments are completely sincere. If, on the other hand, you were making light of the situation that angered and unnerved the author of this thread by your comments, and you meant them in a boisterous and joking manner, please except my apology for my misreading of your intent. As Dennis Miller says, "But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong." The 400-lb. gorilla has spoken. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

This is very topical to me, personally. Recently, we travelled up the coast of Oregon just to Geocache. It was a blast. We had the print-outs of 33 geocaches when we started. We didn't take the route we had originally planned, so half of that number got culled after the first day from our list. Here is the issue: So many of the caches along the coast are CRAP! Some are water-logged, some are MIA, some had had their contents plundered and replaced with trash or unmentionable stuff. Reading the logs, it appears that most of these have been problematic for months, yet nothing has been done. Well, almost nothing... One cache in Coos Bay was adopted by a gentleman who really appreciated the placement of it and was shocked by the condition he'd found it in, so he took it home, cleaned it up and added new goodies. What a guy! All to keep the sport going. But to play devil's advocate for a moment... What if I place twenty caches in this area and then my company moves to Bermuda and if I want to keep my job I've gotta move to Bermuda. I can no longer maintain my caches, right? My choices are 1)to find someone locally who will adopt them, 2)remove and archive them, reducing the overall geocaching enjoyment of the folks in my area and visitors or 3)Hey, I'm going to Bermuda! Geocaches are the last thing on my mind. I've gotta pack, sell my house, find a new school for the kids... you get the idea. A truly responsible person thinks of everything, and they would most likely do numbers one or two. But we aren't all perfect. If there are repeated logs claiming damage to the cache and the owner doesn't take action (that doesn't include an email saying, "Yeah, I'll do it.") within six months, go out, get the box and use it to place a cache of your own. Contact Jeremy or whomever handles these things and ask/beg that the cache be archived. Then recycle the container, contents and area, but name it something different and make it your own. Six months is a decent time to prove someone just ain't comin' back to fix it, IMHO. Did I ramble too much? Must be the caffiene... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: The next thing we'll see is a cache placed where the owner says the cache can only be sought by people wearing chicken hats and one red and one blue sneaker at midnight on the second Tuesday of a month when it's raining . . . it's precisely the same idea. Oh yeah, after receiving permission to log your legitimate find, you've got to include in your post time-stamped photos and a report from the Weather Channel, or else it will be deleted. So be it. Why not? Isn't this the entire theory behind "Members Only" Geocaches? I mean really... What if I, a "Member", print out my cache log and head out, and oh, the folks that are going with me aren't "Members". Does that mean that they cannot log the find? Point is, we are already dealing with restrictions. Telling people where to park so as not to disturb a wilderness area or the neighbors is a good form of control for a geocache. Asking people to send an email to verify the find of a virtual cache is not as difficult, time consuming or a hogging of the bandwidth as you seem to make it out to be. It is her cache, she can make rules if she likes. Again, if you chose not to go to that cache for whatever reason, DON'T GO! But please stop complaining/arguing about a cachers rights during placement. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot: The next thing we'll see is a cache placed where the owner says the cache can only be sought by people wearing chicken hats and one red and one blue sneaker at midnight on the second Tuesday of a month when it's raining . . . it's precisely the same idea. Oh yeah, after receiving permission to log your legitimate find, you've got to include in your post time-stamped photos and a report from the Weather Channel, or else it will be deleted. So be it. Why not? Isn't this the entire theory behind "Members Only" Geocaches? I mean really... What if I, a "Member", print out my cache log and head out, and oh, the folks that are going with me aren't "Members". Does that mean that they cannot log the find? Point is, we are already dealing with restrictions. Telling people where to park so as not to disturb a wilderness area or the neighbors is a good form of control for a geocache. Asking people to send an email to verify the find of a virtual cache is not as difficult, time consuming or a hogging of the bandwidth as you seem to make it out to be. It is her cache, she can make rules if she likes. Again, if you chose not to go to that cache for whatever reason, DON'T GO! But please stop complaining/arguing about a cachers rights during placement. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

I'm sorry, this may end up being a rant, so I'll just apologize now. I am so tired of "public lands" that have been "removed" from "public use" by the powers that be. As an active four-wheel drive enthusiast, I get tired of the attitude by environmentalists that all four-wheelers are 18 year old, high-testosterone-producing males driving their HUGE 4x4's out into pristine wilderness areas and driving over every endangered species they can find! By stereotyping all four-wheelers with this description, can I then stereotype all environmentalists as tree-hugging, dirt-munching druids wearing Birkenstocks and dreadlocks and living on commune, driving a psychedelic-painted VW microbus, smoking hash and weaving hemp into useful items that they sell on street corners? NO, though I don't really know where the above description of a stereotypical environmentalist came from... When Former Pres. Clinton signed that land-grab deal for making 11 million acres into a "Wilderness Refuge" around the U.S. and limiting public access to lands that were formerly used for grazing cattle, sustainable farming or just hiking, camping, fishing and enjoying getting away from the big cities, it was a betrayal of the worst kind to the American people. Almost as bad as selling Cray computers to the Chinese... but that's another issue, so don't get me started. Now... (Red takes a deep breath in, blows out the poison thoughts imposed upon her by the over-paid powermongers in government) if this cache was placed in a State-controlled park, that may be another issue, but the real reason they are removing it is because of liability and they are hiding behind the issue of over-use. Or, they could really be claiming over-use and then they ARE trying to take our land away from us and they killed Kenny - THOSE BASTARDS! Seriously ("I thought all of this was serious?" "You shut up!"), keep tabs on what is done with that area, because once they take it away you will never get it back, even for casual hiking, etc. Sorry about the voices. What? You don't hear them? And people call me crazy! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

I'm sorry, this may end up being a rant, so I'll just apologize now. I am so tired of "public lands" that have been "removed" from "public use" by the powers that be. As an active four-wheel drive enthusiast, I get tired of the attitude by environmentalists that all four-wheelers are 18 year old, high-testosterone-producing males driving their HUGE 4x4's out into pristine wilderness areas and driving over every endangered species they can find! By stereotyping all four-wheelers with this description, can I then stereotype all environmentalists as tree-hugging, dirt-munching druids wearing Birkenstocks and dreadlocks and living on commune, driving a psychedelic-painted VW microbus, smoking hash and weaving hemp into useful items that they sell on street corners? NO, though I don't really know where the above description of a stereotypical environmentalist came from... When Former Pres. Clinton signed that land-grab deal for making 11 million acres into a "Wilderness Refuge" around the U.S. and limiting public access to lands that were formerly used for grazing cattle, sustainable farming or just hiking, camping, fishing and enjoying getting away from the big cities, it was a betrayal of the worst kind to the American people. Almost as bad as selling Cray computers to the Chinese... but that's another issue, so don't get me started. Now... (Red takes a deep breath in, blows out the poison thoughts imposed upon her by the over-paid powermongers in government) if this cache was placed in a State-controlled park, that may be another issue, but the real reason they are removing it is because of liability and they are hiding behind the issue of over-use. Or, they could really be claiming over-use and then they ARE trying to take our land away from us and they killed Kenny - THOSE BASTARDS! Seriously ("I thought all of this was serious?" "You shut up!"), keep tabs on what is done with that area, because once they take it away you will never get it back, even for casual hiking, etc. Sorry about the voices. What? You don't hear them? And people call me crazy! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

I remember those ads! Though I didn't see my first one until long after publication... I don't remember the year of the publication, but it was in a Penthouse (or was it Playboy?) magazine I found in my Dad's bathroom cupboard. No wonder he never let us in there when I was a kid! I will say though, maybe we should contact C.C. and see if they will bring back the game, considering the popularity of Geocaching, it is sure to be a hit if they give GPS hints! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite