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Yep, I like the subliminal message too... seems I've seen it somewhere before... Peacock family? Just glad I ain't, like, related to 'em or sumpthin'! "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Yep, I like the subliminal message too... seems I've seen it somewhere before... Peacock family? Just glad I ain't, like, related to 'em or sumpthin'! "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

They say its 30 feet now, but out in the "open" I have been 5' form a cache and the gps tells me I am 5'. It's all up to certain variables. "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

In the past few weeks I have noticed that the number of caches in my little neck 'o the woods goes up one day and down the next. I suppose that this isn't so strange. I don't have every cache on my watch list so I can't say which ones are disappearing (not being temp archived, anyway). It does seem weird to me. Any ideas? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

#1: It amazes me the number of humans that purchase, eat and play with the plastic that passes for AMERICAN processed cheese. Sure it's cheap, sure it will fill you up, sure it is the core ingredient (of those that can be easily pronounced) in CHEEZ WHIZ (another cool AMERICAN invention)... but really? EAT the stuff? Come on! Everytime I let my dog eat what passes for processed or "guh-mint" cheese, nothing passes. Think about it. #2: I am also amazed (from a web design perspective) at the work and skill that went into designing and producing that website. Is a dangerous spoof of a hobby so widespread that someone put THAT MUCH effort into publicizing it? I guess so. #3: I think that the "don't try this at home" disclaimer was pretty weak and rather irresponsible... yeah, maybe it is what passes (there is that word again relating to cheese!) for dry, Brit humor, but come on! Wear your Big Mike hockey mask for this sport, kidz! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

quote:Originally posted by CaveDiver:but she must have a waterproof GPS to carry it where I think she carries it (think about it, you'll figure it out - it has to do with being in a perpetually bad mood!). Darn it! I don't get it! I've tried imagining what you're infering (sp?) in every way from mild to downright rude and crude and still can't visualize why her GPS would need to be waterproof... Will someone educate me through email so as not to incriminate themselves? Please?

I've been driving off-road vehicles of one type or another since 1976. I love quads, would dearly love to own a sand-rail or a dune buggy (so would Steak) and Steak desperately wants a Jeep or another Baja. I own a nice newer long wheelbase truck, and have never hesitated to take it out in the boonies to get scratched up, have the tires bruised by some radical rocks/stones, or head out on trails that, in some of the hairier spots have left me requiring the use of a spatula to get my a$$ out of the seat (can you say pucker factor?). It also comfortably carries my two cache-rats (kids) and rides sweet on the highway for those long cache excursions. BUT it would be hard to tell you what you should get. Do you like caching in all seasons, all weather (need something enclosed, preferably with a heater)? Do you want something that WILL go ANYWHERE (ATV's have limitations on terrain - just try to get one through two feet of snowpack, something my Ford will do)? Do you want something that CAN go ANYWHERE (adding a trailer to your equasion (sp?) can completely change your financial requirements and if you need to traverse city/state/county roads you'll need a permit for ATV's, buggies, etc.)? I think that a high(er) ground clearance Jeep or 'Zuki Suicide might be better all around. Cheap upkeep (for older models), you don't need to be a rocket scientist to fix stuff yourself on most of them, parts are cheap and readily accessible and they can be modified to do anything and go anywhere. They haul your gear, your grub and your GPS. Sounds like the ticket to me... But I could be wrong... Hell, you can tell I haven't put much thought into it. As my brother always says: "Not bad for a girl!" ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

I've been driving off-road vehicles of one type or another since 1976. I love quads, would dearly love to own a sand-rail or a dune buggy (so would Steak) and Steak desperately wants a Jeep or another Baja. I own a nice newer long wheelbase truck, and have never hesitated to take it out in the boonies to get scratched up, have the tires bruised by some radical rocks/stones, or head out on trails that, in some of the hairier spots have left me requiring the use of a spatula to get my a$$ out of the seat (can you say pucker factor?). It also comfortably carries my two cache-rats (kids) and rides sweet on the highway for those long cache excursions. BUT it would be hard to tell you what you should get. Do you like caching in all seasons, all weather (need something enclosed, preferably with a heater)? Do you want something that WILL go ANYWHERE (ATV's have limitations on terrain - just try to get one through two feet of snowpack, something my Ford will do)? Do you want something that CAN go ANYWHERE (adding a trailer to your equasion (sp?) can completely change your financial requirements and if you need to traverse city/state/county roads you'll need a permit for ATV's, buggies, etc.)? I think that a high(er) ground clearance Jeep or 'Zuki Suicide might be better all around. Cheap upkeep (for older models), you don't need to be a rocket scientist to fix stuff yourself on most of them, parts are cheap and readily accessible and they can be modified to do anything and go anywhere. They haul your gear, your grub and your GPS. Sounds like the ticket to me... But I could be wrong... Hell, you can tell I haven't put much thought into it. As my brother always says: "Not bad for a girl!" ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

You know, I'm not sure if I'm jealous or curious as to how the CCCA logs so many caches. It is obvious by their logs that there is two or more adults out all caching separately in a day and that would be the only way two responsible adults with nothing better to do and two small kids COULD log that many caches in such a short period of time.... It also seems obvious from their logs that they are doing it (Geocaching) for the score, not the enjoyment of the destination. But it is very foolish of ALL of us (me included) to speculate and be critical of their means and methods when we weren't there and don't know the facts or what motivates them. It is RUDE to talk about others in a forum like this just as it is RUDE to talk about others behind their backs. This thread is really no different than that. Now James on the other hand, is prime R.H. material, as there is no way to post behind his back because he hardly ever goes Geocaching (can't get his Daddy to drive him and he's probably too lazy to WALK - excuses) and instead sits around the house sucking on other people's bandwidth and making rude comments and statements with no basis in fact... of course, I could be doing that exact same thing right here, right now... So Jeremy? Why don't you please lock-up this thread? No need for it to be self-perpetuating. Either that, or someone (the REAL bug - definitely a family member ::SPECULATION!: could invite the CCCA to respond to everyone's accusations. Oh, hey... you know? I bet they don't have time. THEY are out Geocaching! Like the rest of us should be doing this time of year. ----------

quote:Originally posted by kd7mxi:MATH AND READING i don't know math because it gives me a headache. i can read at the college level but hate to study and read long sentences and articles. James: You have just informed the world that you are farking lazy, not learning-disabled. I hate doing my taxes and my kids give me headaches, so does traffic and people who CHOOSE to be illiterate so that they can collect that Stoopid check from Social Security. I'm sorry, but if you are smart enough to pass your ham license, you should be able to hold down a job. The nimrod at the welfare office you've got convinced you're retarded must be more ill-bred than yourself. And for crying out loud! YOU are not a Cachu-Nut... please stop posting their HUGE pic when all you type is one (incomplete) sentence! It is rude AND unnecessary... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Just like in the Central Valley of California, bugs in agricultural areas have a higher concentration of $%|^ in them... the more of that, the higher the stick ratio... therefor, one requires a high-powered $%|^ scraper to get them off of one's windscreen... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Just like in the Central Valley of California, bugs in agricultural areas have a higher concentration of $%|^ in them... the more of that, the higher the stick ratio... therefor, one requires a high-powered $%|^ scraper to get them off of one's windscreen... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

quote:Originally posted by DisQuoi:From your cache description ... _This cache will take some effort to reach, _no free lunch here!__ It may not be tasty but it is free. Oh man... and I thought that I had a sick and twisted imagination... *gurgle-ick*

quote:Originally posted by DisQuoi:From your cache description ... _This cache will take some effort to reach, _no free lunch here!__ It may not be tasty but it is free. Oh man... and I thought that I had a sick and twisted imagination... *gurgle-ick*

In relation to both this thread and the one by Jeremy concerning the ability to auto-archive caches, I looked at all of the caches within 100 miles of my zip. I checked for attendance. Only some of the toughest or most out-of-the-way caches hadn't been visited in the past two months. I'd say that that is pretty good for this area. Now, in Klamath/Butte Falls, if a cache goes one day without being found you can bet that some nuclear disaster has struck or some type of mass plague...

What I want to know is: who is buying the lobster? Obviously the poachers couldn't sell it to a broker, but instead must rely on a middle man or word of mouth to sell small quantities of the shellfish at a time. And offloading it from the boats to the dock would attract some attention. These guys need to police themselves. Steak worked for many years as a commercial fisherman on crab boats and bottom fishing vessels. Guys who didn't do real well during the peak part of the season might try to bring in more than their quota and sell to restaurants or private parties for more than market value. Chances are the poachers are commercial lobster fishermen who are trying to make an extra buck on the side. If the fisheries people are really worried about it, they need to put a tighter squeeze on the market and the people who are BUYING the illegal crustaceans. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

I doubt that this is a *REAL* geocacher who did this, but instead someone who might read the site and go look for "excitement". They might even read the forums to get a chuckle from your distress. A$$holes are like that. After reading some of the other logs prior to this incident, though, it seems like this spot is pretty popular with an unpopular crowd. Whenever you find an area where there are a lot of empty beer cans and people just "hang out", you can bet that the cache will be found and looted or, as in this case, worse. Retreive the container (or not) and place another cache in a less trafficked area. I'm sorry that this happened to your first cache placed. It has to kind of sour you a bit. Take heart in knowing that it is those of us who seek and enjoy your caches that really matter. "Powerful the Darkside is, yes." - Yoda ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

I doubt that this is a *REAL* geocacher who did this, but instead someone who might read the site and go look for "excitement". They might even read the forums to get a chuckle from your distress. A$$holes are like that. After reading some of the other logs prior to this incident, though, it seems like this spot is pretty popular with an unpopular crowd. Whenever you find an area where there are a lot of empty beer cans and people just "hang out", you can bet that the cache will be found and looted or, as in this case, worse. Retreive the container (or not) and place another cache in a less trafficked area. I'm sorry that this happened to your first cache placed. It has to kind of sour you a bit. Take heart in knowing that it is those of us who seek and enjoy your caches that really matter. "Powerful the Darkside is, yes." - Yoda ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Thanks, CJ. That really brought a lot home to me. I/we tend to be cache-hogs, over-zealous about new hidden caches and enjoy being first, but I'm not too worried about our found numbers (we're hovering right around 70). Like you, I have neat memories about almost every cache. My favorites all have something to do with my kids or good friends, though. Like the first time Muffin Man (8) and I went alone to find a cache, and on the way there it began to pour down rain. We finished it anyway, in the rain, in the dark and we went out and celebrated together afterward with a hot fudge sundae; Or the time that Steak and I got an overnight sitter, kidnapped my best friend Dave and went out for just a few caches before dark, and ended up logging twelve caches and staying out until 6 a.m. because we were having too much fun and enjoying each others' company too much to quit; But the coolest of all was the trip we planned around visiting the Contact Cache in Hillsboro, Oregon. We didn't score big on caches up and down the Oregon coast, but meeting and spending time with Contact's creator, fractal, and actually visiting the cache site has been the highlight of all of my months of caching. I'd like to thank everyone who places caches for giving me something fun and family-oriented to obsess over! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Thanks, CJ. That really brought a lot home to me. I/we tend to be cache-hogs, over-zealous about new hidden caches and enjoy being first, but I'm not too worried about our found numbers (we're hovering right around 70). Like you, I have neat memories about almost every cache. My favorites all have something to do with my kids or good friends, though. Like the first time Muffin Man (8) and I went alone to find a cache, and on the way there it began to pour down rain. We finished it anyway, in the rain, in the dark and we went out and celebrated together afterward with a hot fudge sundae; Or the time that Steak and I got an overnight sitter, kidnapped my best friend Dave and went out for just a few caches before dark, and ended up logging twelve caches and staying out until 6 a.m. because we were having too much fun and enjoying each others' company too much to quit; But the coolest of all was the trip we planned around visiting the Contact Cache in Hillsboro, Oregon. We didn't score big on caches up and down the Oregon coast, but meeting and spending time with Contact's creator, fractal, and actually visiting the cache site has been the highlight of all of my months of caching. I'd like to thank everyone who places caches for giving me something fun and family-oriented to obsess over! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

If you didn't sign the logbook, you shouldn't be able to log it as "found". To echo other posters, too many times even very experienced cachers can miss an existing cache. Doesn't mean it isn't there, but if they didn't find it, or even eyeball the container, ain't no find. See if others in the area have found it recently. If one or two others have attempted it and come up no joy, then it may be gone, but it still isn't a find. After all, it isn't a virtual or locationless cache. No box, no log, no find. One of the caches on my watch list has had three or four Not Founds on it recently, but a few days later someone logged it as "found"... signed the logbook, traded from it, everything. A few days later someone else went for it and couldn't find it. Is it a "disappearing/reappearing" cache? I don't think so. I'm going to check it out later this week as the owner hasn't archived it. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

Around here, since this is a heavily hit area during tourist season (yes, you can hunt them here! ), I notice that one will find that folks have logged in the physical cache log, but they wait until they get home from vacation to log them online. I'm waiting here to see a bunch of finds on my caches for this past weekend. I drove by a spot where one of my newer caches is hidden and each day saw two or more cars there. Hopefully they weren't just walking their dogs! Me? I'm optimistic. Geocaching isn't even CLOSE to being dead! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

I responded to this on the General forum, so I won't repeat what I typed here (*sniff*)... But didn't you already LOG Contact, oregone? I'd love to see it placed somewhere else. I hope it can be done. I just don't want it to go away. It has brought so many cool people together... Oh no... I'm going to cry again... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

I responded to this on the General forum, so I won't repeat what I typed here (*sniff*)... But didn't you already LOG Contact, oregone? I'd love to see it placed somewhere else. I hope it can be done. I just don't want it to go away. It has brought so many cool people together... Oh no... I'm going to cry again... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

quote:Originally posted by kd7mxi:ever since 9-11 the DOD dosnt give my dad enuff time off for us to go geocaching at the moment Excuses are like dirty diapers... I KNEW you still lived at home with your parents! HA! "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda, Jedi Master from Star Wars - Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back