Crusso

discoverlogs have nothing to do with the voyage. Discover logs have everything to do with the voyage. They're a record of where and when a trackable was seen. A virtual discover by it's very nature cannot convey any such information, or really any useful information at all. An in-person discover at least confirms that a trackable still exists, but a virtual one doesn't (see above posts where missing trackables were discovered). As someone who is apparently fine with virtual trackable logging, I'm genuinely curious: why? What benefit(s) do you see for the logger/owner/other cachers from virtual logs? Is it all about the numbers, or is there some other reason I just can't think of? I'm someone who is apparently fine with virtual trackable logging and I'll give you two reasons why. 1. If someone has the tracking code to one of my travel bugs and all they do is discover it. Thank you. 2. My doctor said I have to get my blood pressure down to under 230/110. Until Groundspeak incorporates a tool that lets me hide Discovery and Visited logs, I'm not going to spend one second worrying about something I have no control over...... Deep breath in....Let it out. One of the reasons, particularly on mine, is that I have a TB that I use personally to record MY movements. I drop it in every event I visit and then recapture it thus making a virtual map of my travels. Now I have logs on it from people that have never even encountered it because they want to sit in thier parents basement and play captain keyboard. It's like sending junk mail to someone's house just to see if I could fill up your mailbox.

Another cheater - kinderarzt Using an auto logger.

" The OP here owns one of those pocket caches that appears to show up at events and is passed on to select members here, and not in the spirit of a traveling geocache. They are playing by their own rules, like the auto bot loggers. I bet that Luco235 virtually logged a discovery on the pocket cache TB, and it upset the op." And you would be wrong. My traveling cache abides by the rules GS set when it was released originally. GS itself has stated so. It occasionally visits events. GS says that is fine. I've even asked that it not. Sounds like YOU are the one that has a problem with this. What luco235 did was against GS guidelines and frankly, a really pussy way of inflating ones count.

But of course he hadn't removed the logs and doesn't look like he has any inclination of doing so.... Can geocaching invalidate those logs?

Hi Christopher, Thanks for writing in to us about this. We have contacted Luco235 and warned him that this behavior is not acceptable. Virtual logging of trackables is a violation of the Geocaching.com Terms of Use. Please feel free to delete any logs by this person on your trackables, and let me know if you notice the practice continue. All the best, Alex Community Manager

Gotta be some kind of auto logger. The note is the same for each, including the same misspelling. Plus no one could log over 1800 logs in a couple hour period if they were hand typing them. Wonder how he's getting away with this and how many times he's done it before. And to be so blatant.

A cacher has just logged over 1800! USA Geocoins today from all over the country on the same day.. Interesting that the cacher simultaneously found three different coins of mine, each of which has been lost for several years and one that I actually have never released. How does that work? Software manipulation? I messaged him and was told he "made a mistake entering numbers" and if I disagreed I could delete the log. Luco235 is the user.

I understand GeoCaching has to have ads. I've clicked on a couple interesting ones myself. However, That being said, Is anyone from the site monitoring the actual ad content? I just clicked on an ad for a Garmin Map (thinking it was a paper map product) and was directed to one of those BS sites where in order to get the advertised product you have to sign up for a bunch of stuff like DVD clubs, credit cards, etc and then send them confirmations that you actually purchased the items before you get your "Free" item. These kind of ads really are false lead-ins and shouldn't be allowed on the site. Here's the ad - Read the fine print for yourself: Garmin® GPS Map Offer Details You'll always know how to get there - and know where you are - with the colorful, lightweight, feature-packed hand held GPSMAP® 60CS GPS Mapping Device This new, all-purpose unit offers a 256-color, highly reflective display that provides easy viewing in almost any lighting condition Its transreflective TFT provides excellent viewing while giving you 20 hours battery life during typical use Consumer Offer Source is not endorsed, sponsored by or affiliated with Garmin Ltd, GPS Map or any merchant listed above. Such terms are registered trademarks of their respective owners. (here's the fine print): *Receipt of the free incentive gift requires: 1.) Completion of offer terms, including age and residency requirements; shipping address verification; and registration with a valid email address 2.) Completion of user survey. 3.) Participation in sponsor offers, including 2 silver, 2 gold, and 6 platinum offers. Purchase may be required. Upon completion of participation requirements, we will ship the incentive gift to you with free shipping. This survey is an independent program for consumers and is not affiliated with the merchant/brands listed above. ConsumerOfferCenter.com is solely responsible for all incentive fulfillment. Upon valid completion of all Program Requirements we will ship your item to your provided shipping address. Unless otherwise indicated, participation eligibility is restricted to US residents, 18 and over. Void where prohibited. Please review our Terms and Conditions for more details. Check Gift Status | Privacy Policy | Terms and Conditions | Unsubscribe | Help | Contact Us © 2007 ConsumerOfferCenter.com. All Rights Reserved. By the time you fill all those requirements you could purchase 4 of the units outright!! So, my original point is why are these ads being allowed? They really amt to spam or worse.

Obviously I spelled "Military" wrong. Hmmm, an accident or a test? Jamming Incident

PDAs on eBay

Sorry I didn't get back sooner. My PC access is spotty right now. Here's the latest: Got 2 handspring Visor Prisms loaded w/software. A few extras like a camera attachment, some cables, etc. Update: D@mn camera's around here someplace! I know it's here - I'll send it ahead if I don't find it by the time the sale is made. Anyway, Looks like 1 PDA got dropped while in storage so the case won't stay together. However I'm including it because the inside and battery are still good. I'm including though, a B/W screen Visor as well which does work (but the op system is in Japanese! - programs loaded though do work in english.) So here's what's included: PDAs 1 working fine Visor prism - color screen - rechargeable 1 broken case color Prism - guts still good - rechargeable 1 Visor (black/white screen, Japanese op system)- works fine - runs on 2 AAA batteries Modules 1 IR remote control module - turns the Prism into a universal remote 1 Handspring backup module 1 MemPlug Compact Flash adaptor w/gMovie Maker software 1 CF expansion card Misc 2 Charging/sync cradles (1 USB, 1 serial) 1 AC adaptor 1 deluxe Leather case 1 basic case 1 Zip around Body Glove case several hard plastic covers (snap over the front to protect the units) 1 Targus Full size fold up keyboard which the prism snaps into 1 Mini keyboard which straps to your arm (about the size of the pda) 1 Travel charger (110v) - allows charging of PDA w/o using the cradle 1 Prism to Garmin V cable (to use PDA as a GPS receiver) 1 Game Tote (plastic case to store modules) couple Stylus Bunch of CD Roms maybe more stuff to find as I clean up! I'll take $80 shipped for everything listed - camera may or may not pop up but I know it's here. Here's the full eBay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=320102428853 PDAs on Ebay

Funny, but the one thing I haven't seen discussed in this whole topic is why are these being hidden there in the first place? Isn't one of the tenets of Geocaching "Seek permission from the owner before hiding a cache on private property"? Now I know that all these sites are "commercial" but they are in fact owned by someone, even if it's a corporation. Has anyone sought out permission before placing one of these LPCs? Or do we just use the fact that these are "commercial" sites to get around that little sentence? Do we really think that these owners would approve of this? If not, should caches really be placed there?

I used to use plaster of paris to mold lead coins. Pour a half mold w/plaster. Insert coin or other object halfway and let harden. Smear exposed surface area w/some kind of release agent like petroleum jelly then pour the other half of the mold. When dry seperate the 2 halves, remove the item and dig a cone shaped opening connecting the top of the mold impression to one edge of the mold and this becomes the funnel for the molten lead. Pour it in, seperate the mold and voila! The detail wasn't great but it was good enough to read the date on a quarter impression. (which we of course never ever used in gum machines!)

Got a couple PDAs available. Handsprings w/Palm software. Color. Lots of programs loaded. Around $50 each. Looking to see if there's any interest.

Based on the fact that this hide is in the back of a shopping center, the local police are quick to nail people in these lots after business hours. And the reason I know is because I used to work there and the owner's were not happy with people being in the lot after hours. They would often ask the local police to patrol the lots after various acts of graffiti, vandalism, etc. The issue I was trying to raise in general was a discussion about bad cache hides & reviewers scrutinizing requested placements a little better. If you reread my original post you will see that I never mentioned the cache name or number specifically. Another poster did that. The discussion seems to have degraded into picking apart this cache specifically. That was not the original intent. And again, I was not bashing the reviewers who I know have a tough job especially being volunteers. Again, I was just trying to open a dialogue in general.

Guess everyone else missed this point. Uh, yes. AND AGAIN, I AM NOT BASHING ANYONE - Just trying to raise the issue for discussion! See panty quote above!

Don't get your panties in a wad guys! sheesh! I wasn't bashing anyone, I was trying to open up a dialogue/discussion about cache quality. I hunted it because it comes up on my "Nearest caches" page which I like to clean out from time to time. I load a bunch of points then go hunt them and don't always have the cache page with me. My point was simply that it's NOT always the reviewer's responsibilty to ensure the cache has a worthy view/site, etc BUT there were some things in the description which should "have raised an eyebrow". Thank you! And as far as micro bashing goes - If you check my stats you'll se I have hunted a fair number of micros.

Sounds cool! But let me get this straight, How do you address a postcard to a specific cacher? I musta missed that part when I was skimming through. Do I send it, for example: "To Crusso c/o Geo post office #46" (or whatever the GC # is)? Does that mean that when it gets there it should be left in the cache till it's picked up by the cacher it's addressed to? How does that cacher know it's arrived? (Wow, guess I missed alot!) Also, how do I find all the Geo post offices? When I do a keyword search, I only get like 5. Maybe all the cache names should include the term "Geo Post Office or GPO" in the title?

Hunted a cache today which probably shouldn't have been approved. Now I don't know what the hider told the reviewer, but in part, this is what his cache description said: "this is also a quick find for you to boost your numbers" & "barely have to get out of your car to get this one". Cache was hidden by simply driving to the back end of a shopping center and sticking a hide a key to the guardrail. I know the owner of the dept store didn't grant permission for this. There is no scenery or anything else to be seen from the site. Looking around this area is likely to bring attention from the cops as it is basically the loading area/non general parking area of the lot. There are several parks within a 2 block radius of this site where any number of caches could be hidden. I know this probably fits the general guidelines but surely we can do better than this.

Wow! Cool idea! Just noticed the thread and read through it. I just have one suggestion after reading through the 9 caches that are already on line: Could someone please use spell check on the cache pages? I mean, this is an ambitious undertaking but it would look a little nicer still if the spelling errors were corrected... Just a pet peeve. Gonna join the hunt now......

Anyone seen this yet? It's actually pretty interesting and has some great ideas for cool hides/clue usage. They are currently running some kind of promotional cash win tie-in (NBC.com). would be great if a Geocacher won it! In one episode they built a combo lock into an ammo box. I scrutinized the footage and it actually looks easy to do with off the shelf stuff. Got some ideas.....

I looked at GPS City, any other stores....?

Can't view it yet! "Sorry, you cannot view this cache listing until it has been published."

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Just might hafta attend!