Angry-Beaver

Here in South Eastern PA, we have We don't have any real border and have members from all over South Eastern PA as well as other states. We overlap with many of the other regional groups in PA. Everyone is welcome to join, we're always happy to have new people. UPDATED - UPDATE*** Alas it seems that the SEPAG site is no longer working. There is a new Facebook page added to help keep those interested updated. Nothing like the old site but come check it out and join: SEPAG on Facebook -Angry Beaver

UPDATED - UPDATE*** Alas it seems that the SEPAG site is no longer working. There is a new Facebook page added to help keep those interested updated. Nothing like the old site but come check it out and join: SEPAG on Facebook -Angry Beaver

UPDATE*** Alas it seems that the SEPAG site is no longer working. There is a new Facebook page added to help keep those interested updated. Nothing like the old site but come check it out and join: SEPAG on Facebook -Angry Beaver

Au contraire'.... it was -bunch of code -internal server error then -bunch of code again.....

Is it down again or is it me this time? I just see a bunch of code!!!

the incredible, the stupendoue, the incomperable..... OREVIEWER

Here's a sad but true fact about the whole coin business. Unlike TB's they tend to disappear into someones collection more often than not. It's great to find one "in the wild" since they are becoming a rarity. I'm not for or against Virt coins but it's easier to produce a coin out of my pocket to share among friends than put it in a cache with the hopes it makes it to more than two caches before it goes "missing". Sure the Icons are a nice addition to the page but so are the finds in my log. I guess what I'm saying is where do you draw the line at Personal Coins and malicious icon grabbing? I believe this thread started with a Virt TB's and TB Hijacking.

Wow! It was cool to see the Gettysburg Tri-patch! I have done that many times. UGH! How many times did we go around little round top??? I feel the need to defend my statement on GPS vs. Orienteering. Although Orienteering is an elective AND is different as a sport the badge teaches advanced land navigation and symbology of competition courses. Within each MB there are requirements that fall under the "choose ONE" catagory which are more often than not variations of some aspect related to the badge. There have been badges combined in the past taking peices of similar badges and making new ones. Why not combine two excellent ways of navigation into one badge. Now speaking from a traditionalist long family line of scouts. BSA gets a little giddy whenever you mention changing tradition unless it effects their image. Older badges like Hiking, camping, the Citizenships and other traditionals INCLUDING orienteering are tough to get changes made to because they are the backbone of the Scouting program. Good god do any of you remember the rucus Tiger Cubs made when they came into the scene. BTW Jeremy what's wrong with golf? It's a sport... anyone remeber the now defunct Rabbit Raising?? Angry-Beaver

Ok so I've done some time in the Boy Scouts. Reading through these posts brings up some very good points about the MB program. The fact that the scouting movement is steeped in tradition is an understatement.. The fact that Geocaching is an easier form of orienteering is not going to bode well for creating a new badge. Within each MB there are elective requirements. Maybe this is an option that should be considered too. Kind of like putting a foot in the door. I know a couple of people who have worked trying to get a new badge into the system with many hurdles thrown at them by National. The problems with changing the existing badge requirements is they then need to reprint the books and it also makes the units pay for updated material which to a non-profit is like sqeezing blood from a stone. One thing I did get from those that have tried before is that starting with the units and working your way up with a well laid out program will gain needed support from the councils and will help when filing for the badge later. Angry-Beaver (Eagle Scout Chester County Council PA, Camp Director, SM, UC,DC, etc....)

Ok but what should I log if I go to a cache that was presumed lost in a flood and replaced with a new container and then on the way out found the original cache too. Did I not find two caches for the "first time"?