Ron Streeter

....do you find your hit counters on your recent pages to be useful? I used them briefly in the past, but unless you get the fancy-smancy ones that track actual user history, they don't do much for me. I noticed on mine (yours too) that if a person first logs on to your page, the counter goes up one....let's say from #5 to #6. If the person then clicks on the "hint" the page redraws and the counter goes up to #7. With this in mind, the number shown MIGHT be twice the real number of counts. It might also be 1.5 the number of actual hits, etc. etc. Looks nice though. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....do you find your hit counters on your recent pages to be useful? I used them briefly in the past, but unless you get the fancy-smancy ones that track actual user history, they don't do much for me. I noticed on mine (yours too) that if a person first logs on to your page, the counter goes up one....let's say from #5 to #6. If the person then clicks on the "hint" the page redraws and the counter goes up to #7. With this in mind, the number shown MIGHT be twice the real number of counts. It might also be 1.5 the number of actual hits, etc. etc. Looks nice though. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....in action.... Well, when I went for JS4192, I wondered how I has missed seeing a 125 foot water tower next to the golf course I often play. Seems the tower is now gone and the marker was the red light on top of the tower. This BM (that's bench mark!) was last sighted in 1975 by NGS. There is a high school across the street, and when I was there the place was swarming with kids, so I didn't want to look for a 3 inch brass disk...if one was placed. Not the best start to my BM (that's bench mark!) career. Ron (63 hidden/240 found) (that's REGULAR and VIRTUAL CACHES !) (OH, and 2 of those blamed "locationless") I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....check out my first log for a benchmark ! http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.asp?PID=JS4192 Sorry, LO, I think you have to be a member to access the actual benchmarks (at this time) but you can look at the forum address I posted above. George...after you look at my post you'll see one of the inherent dangers in this new game. Other markers will be inaccessible for one reason or another, but I can see SOME appeal to this. I almost took a picture of a benchmark in a parking lot in Rio Vista recently. Wish now I had ! Guess I'll have to go back ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....check out my first log for a benchmark ! http://www.geocaching.com/mark/details.asp?PID=JS4192 Sorry, LO, I think you have to be a member to access the actual benchmarks (at this time) but you can look at the forum address I posted above. George...after you look at my post you'll see one of the inherent dangers in this new game. Other markers will be inaccessible for one reason or another, but I can see SOME appeal to this. I almost took a picture of a benchmark in a parking lot in Rio Vista recently. Wish now I had ! Guess I'll have to go back ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....now there is a list of benchmarks in your zip code. I have 150 or more in my zipcode with 40 or so within 10 miles. Looks like they DON'T tally up on your regular find count....THAT'S GOOD ! Here's the thread....I think non-members can access it too. http://opentopic.Groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=5790959854&m=8680910954&r=7630970954#7630970954 I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....now there is a list of benchmarks in your zip code. I have 150 or more in my zipcode with 40 or so within 10 miles. Looks like they DON'T tally up on your regular find count....THAT'S GOOD ! Here's the thread....I think non-members can access it too. http://opentopic.Groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=5790959854&m=8680910954&r=7630970954#7630970954 I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I just printed the list of markers in my zip code. It's over 150 ! Glad to hear they won't add up on a person's FIND count. I can just see people going out madly to find these things for the count value alone.There are 40 within 10 miles of my zip code. Anxious to see the new rules on locationless too. They should have their own "home" like these markers do. Ron (69 hidden/240 found) I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....the answers you need ! Only On Sunday....yep, I've been there. I can tell you that it took Scot Martin 5 hours to find it (at least that's what he said). The Geocrickets were there for 1.5 hours and didn't find it. And finally, you'll enjoy your time there even if you don't find the cache. Good luck in being #3! As far as locationless caches go, I submitted one recently which was a little controversial, and IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED !. In subsequent conversations (email) with Jeremy Irish, I learned that there are going to be new rules for locationless posted soon. One of them will be that a site MUST be capable of being visited by more than one person. This would seem to eliminate the rule many people establish that a particular site can only be visited by one person. Frankly, despite the fact that I have "visited" a couple of locationless caches, I DO have a philosophical problem with them. My attempt at publishing one was a "tongue-in-cheek" effort and I guess the fact that it wasn't approved, proved my point ! Hope this gives you some insight LO to your last two questions. *************** Here are a couple of new caches to go for on your way to Black Scarab. Out Of Africa and The Real McCoy [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 15, 2002 at 09:58 AM.]

.....the answers you need ! Only On Sunday....yep, I've been there. I can tell you that it took Scot Martin 5 hours to find it (at least that's what he said). The Geocrickets were there for 1.5 hours and didn't find it. And finally, you'll enjoy your time there even if you don't find the cache. Good luck in being #3! As far as locationless caches go, I submitted one recently which was a little controversial, and IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED !. In subsequent conversations (email) with Jeremy Irish, I learned that there are going to be new rules for locationless posted soon. One of them will be that a site MUST be capable of being visited by more than one person. This would seem to eliminate the rule many people establish that a particular site can only be visited by one person. Frankly, despite the fact that I have "visited" a couple of locationless caches, I DO have a philosophical problem with them. My attempt at publishing one was a "tongue-in-cheek" effort and I guess the fact that it wasn't approved, proved my point ! Hope this gives you some insight LO to your last two questions. *************** Here are a couple of new caches to go for on your way to Black Scarab. Out Of Africa and The Real McCoy [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 15, 2002 at 09:58 AM.]

....you don't fool me ! Go ahead, take along your metal detector if you must. Or you could do it the old-fashioned way as I did at one of yours ! You might also want to take along a canoe, scuba gear, pitons, ropes, crampons and high-altitute oxygen mix as well....never can tell what you might need ! How about a hook-and-ladder truck? ***************** On a lighter note (if that's possible).....just posted a new cache called Out Of Africa...watch for it opening soon at a web-site near you. Go George (and F/LO and Tomaski, et al) I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost. [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 14, 2002 at 12:50 PM.]

....you don't fool me ! Go ahead, take along your metal detector if you must. Or you could do it the old-fashioned way as I did at one of yours ! You might also want to take along a canoe, scuba gear, pitons, ropes, crampons and high-altitute oxygen mix as well....never can tell what you might need ! How about a hook-and-ladder truck? ***************** On a lighter note (if that's possible).....just posted a new cache called Out Of Africa...watch for it opening soon at a web-site near you. Go George (and F/LO and Tomaski, et al) I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost. [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 14, 2002 at 12:50 PM.]

.....Well, it seems I have found all 4 of the "easy" caches you suggested to Jaimee, so it seems it's your turn to look for my "easy" RSR. You mentioned it was about the only one left for you up there, but for Jaimee it would be on the way to some of yours. She could bag 5 "easy" ones in one day...well, your 4 anyway ! Come on George...make the drive...a level 5 is the equivalent of at least 4 level ones ! I put on 170 miles going for 4 of yours on Mother's Day ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....Well, it seems I have found all 4 of the "easy" caches you suggested to Jaimee, so it seems it's your turn to look for my "easy" RSR. You mentioned it was about the only one left for you up there, but for Jaimee it would be on the way to some of yours. She could bag 5 "easy" ones in one day...well, your 4 anyway ! Come on George...make the drive...a level 5 is the equivalent of at least 4 level ones ! I put on 170 miles going for 4 of yours on Mother's Day ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....look for my latest "locationless" cache which has the finder posting an experience with an earthquake. Special requirements, only one person can log a given earthquake so read all descriptions before posting yours. Exception: IF (repeat IF) you can prove that yours was an aftershock or the movement of different plates, you can post as an offshoot-2 of the same earthquake as someone else. "proof" is a photocopy of notarized printouts from a state or federal agency. Hope you enjoy this "locationless" cache. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....look for my latest "locationless" cache which has the finder posting an experience with an earthquake. Special requirements, only one person can log a given earthquake so read all descriptions before posting yours. Exception: IF (repeat IF) you can prove that yours was an aftershock or the movement of different plates, you can post as an offshoot-2 of the same earthquake as someone else. "proof" is a photocopy of notarized printouts from a state or federal agency. Hope you enjoy this "locationless" cache. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....congrats to those who hit the 100 mark ! It IS a milestone to be recognized. NOW, LO if you REALLY want to celebrate a 100th find, DO A HARD ONE ! Think of the satisfaction you'll feel when you actually find (not!) Revenge, Sweet Revenge ! Think of the "raspberries" you can throw my way when you find it (not!). Think of the glory you'll derive (not!) when others CAN't find it! Well, just a sugesstion ...... Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....congrats to those who hit the 100 mark ! It IS a milestone to be recognized. NOW, LO if you REALLY want to celebrate a 100th find, DO A HARD ONE ! Think of the satisfaction you'll feel when you actually find (not!) Revenge, Sweet Revenge ! Think of the "raspberries" you can throw my way when you find it (not!). Think of the glory you'll derive (not!) when others CAN't find it! Well, just a sugesstion ...... Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....and Sonora is in my Prism ! Thanks for the heads-up Kevin ! I checked the links in my RSR cache on the Prism and the link for LO/F's Revenge pops up its description. Pretty nice. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....and Sonora is in my Prism ! Thanks for the heads-up Kevin ! I checked the links in my RSR cache on the Prism and the link for LO/F's Revenge pops up its description. Pretty nice. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...The gps led me (and my cell-phone toting companion) right to the little spot and after looking in the usual places for awhile, looked at the PDA version of the cache description including the decrypted clue. The sign was completely loose at the right edge and I first thought it was going to be a Listerine micro until I read it was a normal sized cache. This was a time when having a cell-phone was a real plus....I was ready to quit looking, as a level 2 for difficulty and good readings AND the clue pretty well told me it wasn't there. When we were there, there was a family at the nearby picnic table. Now that I look back on it, I thought it was odd that they seemed to have no interest in the 20 minutes we spent....obviously looking for something....in that spot. MAYBE THEY HAD ALREADY LIBERATED IT! I mean usually when someone is poking around for a length of time, someone will come by and say "What are you looking for?" Hmmmmm? Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...The gps led me (and my cell-phone toting companion) right to the little spot and after looking in the usual places for awhile, looked at the PDA version of the cache description including the decrypted clue. The sign was completely loose at the right edge and I first thought it was going to be a Listerine micro until I read it was a normal sized cache. This was a time when having a cell-phone was a real plus....I was ready to quit looking, as a level 2 for difficulty and good readings AND the clue pretty well told me it wasn't there. When we were there, there was a family at the nearby picnic table. Now that I look back on it, I thought it was odd that they seemed to have no interest in the 20 minutes we spent....obviously looking for something....in that spot. MAYBE THEY HAD ALREADY LIBERATED IT! I mean usually when someone is poking around for a length of time, someone will come by and say "What are you looking for?" Hmmmmm? Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....Cool isn't half the praise ! Thanks to Kevin and George for introducing me to these devices. I think George introduced Kevin if I remember correctly. I can't say enough about them. I think a few years ago I thought of them as mostly the 4 basic functions they do, and I could live without that. Now with the clipping services of one type or another they are great. ************* Kevin...I got the same brochure you did from DelOrme. I think I'm going to invest in both TOPO 4.0 and the X-map. Any thoughts? Send me email. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....Cool isn't half the praise ! Thanks to Kevin and George for introducing me to these devices. I think George introduced Kevin if I remember correctly. I can't say enough about them. I think a few years ago I thought of them as mostly the 4 basic functions they do, and I could live without that. Now with the clipping services of one type or another they are great. ************* Kevin...I got the same brochure you did from DelOrme. I think I'm going to invest in both TOPO 4.0 and the X-map. Any thoughts? Send me email. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....is a cachin' WIMP ! Called for help on something simple like the grotto ! Couldn't find Revenge even with a clue .... Whoa! I give lessons Fridays ! And wait 'till you go for Revenge, Sweet Revenge....either no one has gone for it or they're all afraid to fess up they couldn't find it ! Now as to MY stellar accomplishemnts today... Found: Bowl Rim Man Bites Dog Groovy Fox (special find on this one!) Egrets....version 2 Haven't posted the finds yet, but getting ready to. Just giving you a hard time (smack?) Kevin. I've been on the "begging" side of the coin a few times myself. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.