Ron Streeter

....geocachers ! Well, Scot posted his find on Where's That Valet! late last night. The helicopter that takes out the SUV would certainly be worth seeing and photographing, but I doubt the law enforcement folks will remember to let us know when that happens. Could camp out there I guess. Meanwhile, back to slipping and sliding in mud and rocks after the recent rains ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....when you need him? Well, LO, I'll answer your first question, but you'll have to wait for Scot to post his part of the story. There is a large trail (car width) that comes in from near the vineyard and goes to a large sandy beach. The beach is where I took pic #1 from. I theorize that the SUV came in on that road. Then, while heading out, whoever was driving it took a slight right and traveled along a trail that parallels the water. That trail starts out a little wide, but narrows down. From the way the car is lying down the hill, it LOOKS like the bank on the passenger side just gave away and the thing rolled over a couple of times getting to the bottom. The tree limbs stopped it from going right into the water. Can you imagine what a ride down the slope this must have been?! ************ As to the woman you talked to about the "old" car wreck, there are 3 that I know of in those woods. Two of them I saw and the third was seen by the Geocrickets. Those ARE old wrecks. ************ Well, with Scot's tale we will have one more episode in this story. And then the final episode is to come ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....when you need him? Well, LO, I'll answer your first question, but you'll have to wait for Scot to post his part of the story. There is a large trail (car width) that comes in from near the vineyard and goes to a large sandy beach. The beach is where I took pic #1 from. I theorize that the SUV came in on that road. Then, while heading out, whoever was driving it took a slight right and traveled along a trail that parallels the water. That trail starts out a little wide, but narrows down. From the way the car is lying down the hill, it LOOKS like the bank on the passenger side just gave away and the thing rolled over a couple of times getting to the bottom. The tree limbs stopped it from going right into the water. Can you imagine what a ride down the slope this must have been?! ************ As to the woman you talked to about the "old" car wreck, there are 3 that I know of in those woods. Two of them I saw and the third was seen by the Geocrickets. Those ARE old wrecks. ************ Well, with Scot's tale we will have one more episode in this story. And then the final episode is to come ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I was going to make the videotape of channel 3 available to the masses, but after seeing it, I think I might not ! Scot comes off quite well though! ************** Meanwhile, take a look at what LO was referring to...my new cache...initial contact by LO/F...production by me ! Where's That Valet! ********** Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I was going to make the videotape of channel 3 available to the masses, but after seeing it, I think I might not ! Scot comes off quite well though! ************** Meanwhile, take a look at what LO was referring to...my new cache...initial contact by LO/F...production by me ! Where's That Valet! ********** Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....play nicely or grandpa Ron will have to put your gps's on the top shelf of the closet! I DID go to SF #2 today and checked out the wreck LO/F found on Sunday. First SF #2: I don't want to get in the middle of this mix-up, but I THINK all Richard was trying to say was that it SOUNDED like the cache might have become easier to find based on the amount of time people in the past had looked for it. I don't think it mattered whether a man or a woman had found it, just sounded like the cache had gotten easier. I believe he was suggesting I check it out to see what was up. I KNOW all the people who looked for this cache. Hiflier never found it even AFTER I made the clues as obvious as I could. This is because it was quite well disguised and not obvious at all. The fact is, when I went today, I saw it quite handily and it had moved about 3 feet toward the vineyard and had become uncovered. This seems to be a freak of nature that happens after half a dozen people find a cache. Something sets in to the current cacher that says..that was to hard..or...that was too easy. I'll do something with it to make it the way it should be. LO, do you remember our discussion of your Timmbrrr cache? A similar thing happened to your cache. Anyway, I rehid it and the same clue will still work, but it is not where I originally hid it, nor is it where LO/F found it. More than this I think need not be said. Ron **************** I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....play nicely or grandpa Ron will have to put your gps's on the top shelf of the closet! I DID go to SF #2 today and checked out the wreck LO/F found on Sunday. First SF #2: I don't want to get in the middle of this mix-up, but I THINK all Richard was trying to say was that it SOUNDED like the cache might have become easier to find based on the amount of time people in the past had looked for it. I don't think it mattered whether a man or a woman had found it, just sounded like the cache had gotten easier. I believe he was suggesting I check it out to see what was up. I KNOW all the people who looked for this cache. Hiflier never found it even AFTER I made the clues as obvious as I could. This is because it was quite well disguised and not obvious at all. The fact is, when I went today, I saw it quite handily and it had moved about 3 feet toward the vineyard and had become uncovered. This seems to be a freak of nature that happens after half a dozen people find a cache. Something sets in to the current cacher that says..that was to hard..or...that was too easy. I'll do something with it to make it the way it should be. LO, do you remember our discussion of your Timmbrrr cache? A similar thing happened to your cache. Anyway, I rehid it and the same clue will still work, but it is not where I originally hid it, nor is it where LO/F found it. More than this I think need not be said. Ron **************** I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....shall keep us from our appointed rounds! Well, maybe gloom of night might. Anyway, braved rain storms today to get to Secret Forest #2 and to check on the SUV wreck report by LO/F. Found both and will give an extensive report here and at web pages later today. Need to do some other work at the moment. Ron (2 pm...Monday) I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....shall keep us from our appointed rounds! Well, maybe gloom of night might. Anyway, braved rain storms today to get to Secret Forest #2 and to check on the SUV wreck report by LO/F. Found both and will give an extensive report here and at web pages later today. Need to do some other work at the moment. Ron (2 pm...Monday) I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I always convert the coordinates right after I post and then look at the cache site on my TOPO USA software to verify it looks ok. This is the first time it SEEMS to be way off ! I didn't have both gps's with me when I placed Skyride, but I took two different readings and they are both on my etrex. They are very close to each other. The only thing I can think is that the MAP is wrong. Have any of you done a similar thing and seen this kind of problem? I remember some of the "weird" park caches came up on the opposite side of a river, and that's sort of what's happening here, but it seems even more off. Thoughts? Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I always convert the coordinates right after I post and then look at the cache site on my TOPO USA software to verify it looks ok. This is the first time it SEEMS to be way off ! I didn't have both gps's with me when I placed Skyride, but I took two different readings and they are both on my etrex. They are very close to each other. The only thing I can think is that the MAP is wrong. Have any of you done a similar thing and seen this kind of problem? I remember some of the "weird" park caches came up on the opposite side of a river, and that's sort of what's happening here, but it seems even more off. Thoughts? Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...angry female cacher in the house ! Just remember, HE SAID IT...I DIDN'T ! ************ Just sent in a new cache and it got approved right off the bat ! Skyride ! I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...angry female cacher in the house ! Just remember, HE SAID IT...I DIDN'T ! ************ Just sent in a new cache and it got approved right off the bat ! Skyride ! I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.......I probably will check the SF2...I almost went up this afternoon because I wanted to see the SUV also, but I doubt they will get it out of there today...might go on Monday. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.......I probably will check the SF2...I almost went up this afternoon because I wanted to see the SUV also, but I doubt they will get it out of there today...might go on Monday. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....wow....wish I had been there. I hope you had the digital camera with you and will share some pictures with us. LO....I will email you the answer to your picture query and you can call me if you have any questions. I finally got around to watching the last episode of Amazing Race....what a cliff-hangar it was ! Pretty exciting and fun to root for the ones I wanted to win it (they didn't) but I was also happy to see the "rude" one lose...he sure didn't deserve to win. The races have always been close at the last obstacle..this one had some interesting things thrown in....mainly by the "rude" one trying to throw off another team. Later....cachers..... Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....wow....wish I had been there. I hope you had the digital camera with you and will share some pictures with us. LO....I will email you the answer to your picture query and you can call me if you have any questions. I finally got around to watching the last episode of Amazing Race....what a cliff-hangar it was ! Pretty exciting and fun to root for the ones I wanted to win it (they didn't) but I was also happy to see the "rude" one lose...he sure didn't deserve to win. The races have always been close at the last obstacle..this one had some interesting things thrown in....mainly by the "rude" one trying to throw off another team. Later....cachers..... Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....and the real world ! Darn that lawn that needs mowing ! Reality has caught up with fun. George is working on plumbing, I'm mowing the lawn and other such duties. I just phoned LO about a web page question she had, and they are out somewhere. Just saw a Bowl Rim post by K. Tomaski, so some caching is happening anyway. Also, Kevin of Cattoy emailed me with some pics and questions about RSR. The hunt is on ! Friday and Saturday I was in the LaGrange area...got the Lover's Leap on Friday and did some other checking around, then came back on Saturday for some straight hiking in the area. Accidentally happened on a coyote yelling event in Coulterville...got inside the museum but missed the actually howling contest. A lot of strange people there ! So, off to mow the lawn and hope to hear of some adventures later today. I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

.....and the real world ! Darn that lawn that needs mowing ! Reality has caught up with fun. George is working on plumbing, I'm mowing the lawn and other such duties. I just phoned LO about a web page question she had, and they are out somewhere. Just saw a Bowl Rim post by K. Tomaski, so some caching is happening anyway. Also, Kevin of Cattoy emailed me with some pics and questions about RSR. The hunt is on ! Friday and Saturday I was in the LaGrange area...got the Lover's Leap on Friday and did some other checking around, then came back on Saturday for some straight hiking in the area. Accidentally happened on a coyote yelling event in Coulterville...got inside the museum but missed the actually howling contest. A lot of strange people there ! So, off to mow the lawn and hope to hear of some adventures later today. I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...Scot, I knew you would come through. Anxious to see it...what better way to lose weight than to have a picture of you with my name on it ! I have two vcr's so I could make a copy, or I'll wait on yours. I'll give you a call Sunday or Monday. Thanks...hope it turned out well. ************ LO/F Congrats on your big finds at Sac ! I emailed you a while ago on Cave of Reeds...go ahead and log the Skullduggery too. I am going to take it out of commission on Sunday until I move it to a new location. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost. [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 19, 2002 at 12:58 PM.]

...Scot, I knew you would come through. Anxious to see it...what better way to lose weight than to have a picture of you with my name on it ! I have two vcr's so I could make a copy, or I'll wait on yours. I'll give you a call Sunday or Monday. Thanks...hope it turned out well. ************ LO/F Congrats on your big finds at Sac ! I emailed you a while ago on Cave of Reeds...go ahead and log the Skullduggery too. I am going to take it out of commission on Sunday until I move it to a new location. Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost. [This message was edited by Ron Streeter on May 19, 2002 at 12:58 PM.]

...for the channel 3 camera ! Glad to hear I looked thinner on TV...now here's the rub ! Although I asked all the local geocachers to tape the darn thing, I forgot to do it AND I didn't even see the report ! I was in such a hurry this morning I forgot to set the vcr and didn't back to town until 7:45. PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE TAPED IT ! Maybe Scott taped it as he was in it too? I hope so. I got an email from one of my old teaching friends, so that was nice. Any help in the taping dept...please say yes ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

...for the channel 3 camera ! Glad to hear I looked thinner on TV...now here's the rub ! Although I asked all the local geocachers to tape the darn thing, I forgot to do it AND I didn't even see the report ! I was in such a hurry this morning I forgot to set the vcr and didn't back to town until 7:45. PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE TAPED IT ! Maybe Scott taped it as he was in it too? I hope so. I got an email from one of my old teaching friends, so that was nice. Any help in the taping dept...please say yes ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I got into Grotto via the yellow gates. The second yellow gate was DOWN when I went in. I checked it out on my way out, and decided to leave it down. I wasn't going to break my back lifting and swinging that thing at the same time ! I think welds broke on the hinge end. I bumped on down the road in 2wd as my 4wd is out for some reason. I mentioned before that I had hiked that road years ago, so it was fun to get back to. I would like to go the whole distance of the road sometime. I think Mike came in from the other end where he and I originally hit what looked like a true private property gate....guess he went through it. Have a fun weekend guys...taking the girlfriend hiking today but no caching...keeps peace in the family ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

....I got into Grotto via the yellow gates. The second yellow gate was DOWN when I went in. I checked it out on my way out, and decided to leave it down. I wasn't going to break my back lifting and swinging that thing at the same time ! I think welds broke on the hinge end. I bumped on down the road in 2wd as my 4wd is out for some reason. I mentioned before that I had hiked that road years ago, so it was fun to get back to. I would like to go the whole distance of the road sometime. I think Mike came in from the other end where he and I originally hit what looked like a true private property gate....guess he went through it. Have a fun weekend guys...taking the girlfriend hiking today but no caching...keeps peace in the family ! Ron I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.