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  1. You can make your benchmarking hobby serve a useful purpose by submitting your results to the NGS. They encourage you to submit them. I do this and have written a PDF file explaining how and explaining how I do it. If you don't want to submit finds and DNF's you can just submit pictures. But, since the coordinates are often poor the ones you take when visiting the mark can be helpful the those who use the benchmarks for surveying. You can read it here:



    The method has changed since the topics pinned to the top of this forum were written. Though I never did it the old way I think they have made it much easier.


    I'm certainly no expert at this but I've probably submitted about a hundred by now using the method described in the PDF file above.


    Oh yes, I should add. No one has used any of this PDF, it's links or the utilities before except me so if you find problems, email me or post them here. Thanks.

  2. Did you measure from the driveway of 1349? Kayakbird's coords and my Google Earth measuring put the mark in the same spot (in that dead-end driveway).

    What is that thing in the driveway that I posted on the benchmark page?

    There's nothing on that driveway. That must have been a piece of trash.


    I'm reasonably (75%) sure the benchmark's gone. I didn't post here to get help finding it I was trying to see of anybody knew what that is in the picture I posted in case is was some odd kind of benchmark.

  3. Has anybody seen one of these things and know what it is?


    While out yesterday I found this thing (see photo) at the location where a benchmark was supposed to be. I found no benchmark but I found this where the benchmark was supposed to be. I didn't measure it but it looks to be between 20 and 30 inches tall



  4. I do a little benchmarking (not much) but I have questions I haven't figured out the answers to. I'll start with this one:


    When there's a benchmark labeled "Reset" does this automatically mean the original no longer exists (has been destroyed, removed, paved over, etc.)?


    If so, why does the mark with the original name still appear in the list?

  5. If they can do what you suggest, to avoid clutter, I would suggest they send only one notice for a given log. Usually people post all of there pictures at one sitting, so if you get notice of one you will probably find their others by the time you get the message and go to the log. Of course if you have the notices sent to your smart phone you may well get there before they're finished so stifle yourself for thirty minutes. :lol:


    Personally, my preference would be for them to hold the notice and check for photos before sending. I wouldn't mind if they held it for as much as an hour.

  6. I enjoy looking at pictures cachers have left, but there's no notice when a cacher leaves pictures. I rarely go to the cache page so it may be months or more before I realize they posted a picture. I suggest a notice (could be optional) of whether someone has left a picture. I understand pictures are not uploaded instantly after a log has been posted. I'd suggest one of the following:


    Wait 15 or so minutes after a log is posted before sending the log notice to allow time for the cacher to upload a picture. If they have posted at least one picture a note could be added to the log notice. Another, not as clean way, is to check the log again say an hour later and send a second notice if they have posted a picture. For me, this is less desirable because I already get a lot of clutter, but better than not knowing about the pictures.

  7. I dont use GSAK to load benchmarks, but this is how I load them directly into my Colorado 300.


    Click on the state and select the county: http://www.holoscenes.com/special/geocac/ds_archive.html


    You will download a ".dat" file.


    Download NGS->GPX http://ngs.tsqmadness.com/ngsgpx/release/NGSGPX-210b317.exe


    It will convert to a usable gpx file. All location adjusted show as a gold treasurebox, location scaled shows as a "?" You get the full description as you would a cache. I use this all the time and works like a champ.


    Thanks, that worked slick. Somebody should update the pinned stuff with these instructions.

  8. I spent the better part of a day yesterday trying to get benchmarks into GSAK in a useful form.


    In your pinned Me First topic, under County Downloads, nothing seems to work. It reads:


    If you click here, NGS - it will take you to the NGS site. Just select the state, click Get County Archives, select the county and choose the file format (zipped if you are on dial-up internet) then click Download. Save this file to your hard drive.


    You will need to download BMGPX to convert the downloaded file into a GPX format for use with other programs. You can get BMGPX here. BMGPX


    Once you have installed BMGPX on your computer all you need to do is drag and drop the county file (unzipped) onto the BMGPX "icon" and it will spit out a gpx file ready to use.


    First, clicking on NGS, as instructed, is a dead link.


    Second, after stumbling around on the NGS site I found my state, but there was nothing about "County Archives."


    Third, so, I downloaded the huge State file and dropped it on BMGPX (an unsupported program) and it choked on the file.


    Fourth, I found a page that allowed me to select my county's data but wouldn't allow me to download it. It refused saying I was asking for too much data.


    Fifth, I downloaded some benchmark files from GC in Loc format (GPX doesn't appear to be available) but when imported into GSAK the descriptions are not present in a form that can be exported to my Palm or Nuvi in the way I do cache descriptions.


    Is there a (hopefully straightforward) way to get benchmarks into GSAK.

  9. Well said. Unless getting at the log involves some sort of puzzle, there really is no reason to delete found it logs on legit finds because the log wasn't signed.

    What if it's a 4+ terrain cache that's 30 feet up in a tree and the cacher's find log says, "I saw it but didn't want to climb the tree.


    What if the cacher's find log says "I could see the cache, but I was on the wrong side of the creek."

  10. I have always wondered. If you get to a cache, and the log paper was soaked and literally had turned into paper mache . . .

    I assume that's one of the 'unusual situations' I mentioned. But, as many wet & soaked logs I've run into, only a very few were totally unsignable mush. I carry replacement logs with me, so in those cases I can usually sign one of my replacements and include it in the cache.


    Another such situation is a rusted shut container.

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