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It isn't clear to me that camo tape is all that good at camoflaging. I don't think it has ever made it anymore difficult for me to see a container than the standard green ammo can. I spray paint my containers black and sometimes dirty them up some.

I'm beginning to worry that may be a very long time. Remember the temporary moratorium on Locationless caches?

A few clarifications. The area where this cache is located is fairly dense with trees and undergrowth. There are multiple locations in the general area that satisfy the cache title/description, so he may or may not remember where it was originally. There is some suggestion the original owner himself could not remember. If he had a hunch where it was originally he could have sent me a note explaining his guess and suggesting I relocate the cache to this guess. The person says he moved it 75 feet. In this area it may be difficult to find it that far from the posted coordinates. I will, of course, drive out there and see if I can find it and decide if his location provides any advantages. I just thought a light slap on the wrist might discourage this person from moving other caches willy-nilly.

Maybe the won't do anything but the can do something -- they can ban the cacher. He may be able to create a new user account using a new email address, but at least it will be clear to him that he was out of line. Right now I think he feels completely justified in moving it, and since there are no consequences why not keep doing it.

Yesterday, a person moved my cache to a new location. About 30 hours ago I emailed him a request that he put it back where he found it -- where the posted coordinates say it is -- so other cachers can find it. He has not replied. One odd thing about this person, he claims to have been caching since 2001, but his account is dated yesterday and he has only found 2 caches about 300 yards apart – both yesterday. Does gc.com provide any recourse in cases like this?

Thanks. I'm gonna do it.

No Search so please forgive me if this has been asked a gazillion times. I'm about convinced one of my TBs has been permanently acquired by a cacher's daughter, so I'm going to restart it with the backup dogtag. What happens if the guy's daughter finally tires of it and he puts it back in circulation? If he does this there will be two bugs with the same identity.

Depending on how accurate you need to be and how far apart the coordinates are this can be a complicated problem. If you are only a mile or so apart and you can tolerate an error of a foot or so then you can do what a couple of people suggested. Convert the coordinates to whole degrees and average them. As somebody said, my coordinate averaging utility will do this using linear arithmetic http://factsfacts.com/geocachingsoft/Avera...Coordinates.htm But distances on a sphere are not linear. The earth is not a perfect sphere. The farther you are from the equator the smaller a degree of longitude is.

Just in case you're really interested in this subject: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=111722 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=74690 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=99698 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=80569 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=76912 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=69796 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=57765 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=58613 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=54681 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=53416 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=64154 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=9250 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=8058 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=7761 http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=7112

http://factsfacts.com/FindingCache.htm

I do the same except for the binder. I print the cache pages (using the new .pdf format now). When I go hunting I sort them in the order I think I'll come to them and put them in a pocket folder . I write my notes about the cache on the backs of the appropriate cache pages, and move them to the other pocket as I finish a cache. When I get home I use these notes to write my logs then they go in the trash. If I want to know which caches I've found I use a Pocket Query in GSAK. Maybe I should say if I ever wanted to know which caches . . ., because I never have so far.

which, is in essence, what both of you were saying, just in different terms. at least that's what it seemed liked. Then I have to conclude you weren't reading very carefully.

The defining characteristic of a letterbox cache is that it has a stamp. Otherwise it would be a traditional cache. Hence, it goes without saying that it contains a stamp. The question was whether a cacher who finds it must have a stamp.

Not very interesting, but when I first signed up I wanted the name Cache22 because I think Catch 22 is the best book written in the 20th century. Cache22 was taken. I was in a hurry, so I took Catch22. I didn't like it, and after a couple of days I Googled around for an ancient God, and bumped into Thoth, an Egyptian character. I liked his looks -- http://images.google.com/images?q=thot&hl=en. Amazingly Thoth was taken, but Thoth and Thot are alternate spellings. So I changed to Thot. There you have it. Cache22 took the name in February of 2001 and never signed on again. And, where is that Thoth guy anyway? Only 6 finds in all these years but he keeps logging in? What's up with that?

I've read that three times and I can't put it together.

I can't remember off hand if Microsoft Streets & Trips has rest stops, they have restaurants and other local spots. If they do you can export (using GSAK or GPSbable) your set of waypoints to it and look for hits close to rest stops.

Incredible!

Which is precisely what I said in my reply which you even quoted when contradicting me. To review: He said: I said: You said: And, like I said, geocachers don't have to have a stamp.

Letterbox hybrids do require a stamp. From the cache listing requirements page:

The latitude is the distance from the equator, so it gets larger as you get farther from the equator. So, the numbers increase when going north in the northern hemisphere and they increase as you go south in the southern hemisphere. The longitude is the distance from Greenwich England. so the size of the number gets larger as you get farther from England, but west of England it is negative and east of England is it positive. Thus the numbers increase when going east in Europe and Asia, etc. and get larger as you go west in the Americas. Technically, mathematically, west of England the values get smaller as the numbers get larger because they become more negative. Minus 100 is smaller than minus 95, but forget this part if it's confusing. One minute of latitude is one nautical mile. One second is one sixtieth of a minute -- about 100 feet (30 meters). In geocaching coordinates are normally given in degrees, minutes and thousandths of a minute (dd mm.mmm). In this case the smallest meaningful value, (a change of one unit in the last digit) is about 6 feet (2 meters).

We agree.

Yes, yes. I should have added my thanks before now. This unworthy pig apologizes and thanks you again.

I don't think hybrids require a stamp. Letterboxers will stamp them and geocachers won't unless they have a stamp and in this case an off-the-shelf stamp will be great. There are only a couple of letterbox hybrids in all of Houston, whereas there are probably a couple of hundred letterboxes.