LostDogCanada

Unfortunately, they signed on the same page as the hider... so we couldn't go that route. LostDog

Well, I'm not able to get in contact with the owners of the cache. According to their statistics, their only hide was this cache, on August 7. 2002. And their only find was August 31, 2002... I tried to e-mail them, but it was returned to me. I have a feeling that they may have another account though, since I imagine that it's extremely rare to hide a cache before you find one... though I may be mistaken. Oh well.

Good idea... it'd be interesting to see what they say. For all of you who are wondering, I decided not to count it as a FTF. It just didn't feel right. The muggles found it, fair and square, even if they had no idea what they were looking at. LostDog

I've been backpacking quite a bit, and simply throw a Camelbak insert in the top of my pack. With a bigger pack, the Camelbak sits high up, so the water pressure shoots the water right into your mouth! You don't even need to sip (which admitedly isn't a hassle, but it IS fun shooting people with your Camelbak hose!) My problem with Nalgene's is that there's rarely a very good place to hold them while you're hiking. While some packs have holsters on them, they're usually in an awkward place to grab. So you usually have to either take your pack off or get somebody else to grab your water for you. Either of these is usually more of a hassle then simply opening the bite valve. If you are looking for a pack with a special holder for your Camelbak, a lot of the newer packs come with this feature. LostDog

I figured as much. Ah well, it was still an incredible trip! LostDog

Geocache Alright, here's some clarification. On August 7, 2002, this cache was placed here. For the last two years, according to the logs, only one group has even attempted it. They got turned away due to bad weather. Fast forward to September 4 of this year. I took a group of friends up to this river for a canoe trip. Somehow (I may have had something to do with this) our route went RIGHT by it! Of course, we found it, being the first geocachers to locate it! As luck would have it (and this is insanely bad luck too!) the cache was actually found the day before by a group of muggles! So, can I consider this a FTF? Or do a group of muggles get this honour? Two interesting notes about these muggles: i) There was no "Geocache Intro" page included in the cache, and from reading their log, they honestly thought that somebody had stashed some gear to pick it up later. My group found this funny considering the relative uselessness of the trinkets. ii) Somebody in my group actually knew these people! Their granddaughter went to a camp that she worked at! Which is especially weird because this cache was about 7 hours drive, plus a boat trip away from their home! I'm actually not too concerned about it, just wondering what the general concensus was regarding this issue. LostDog

I must admit, I'm sorta getting into difficult terrain as well... I've always like canoe trips, so this past labour day weekend, I took some friends on a three day canoe trip on a river here in Ontario, including two caches which were WAY out there. We were the FTF for one (that was placed two years ago!) and the second to find on another. They weren't particularly difficult finds, they were just hard to get to. Really had an awesome time. LostDog