chris&Annie

It's your job to know the guidelines and rules of hiding a cache. That includes both from here, and from the property owners. The only thing you possibly wouldn't know is final locations, but we all run into that. You do know these specific finals, and say they are really not there, that the CO lied about them... Did you tell the reviewer that? Oh, and lying to the reviewer will make problems for other cachers (like the CO of the other caches you mentioned made problems for you) and for yourself. And it's not exactly smarts to say that here- many reviewers are on the forums, and they can all see your post. I'm not going to tell the review because the truth is the caches are very well done. In fact, they are some of the best multi caches i've done. It's just stinks s that they had to break rules to get their cache published, and in turn make things more difficult for others. So, no I will not break the rules but I definitely don't have to agree with them either.

Work with the reviewers, not against them. I don't think my beef is with the reviewer. They don't approve of caches they just publish them. They don't make the rules they just follow them. My hats off to anyone that would give their time and energy to so many others. But, I can imagine their job has gotten harder and harder over the years. Publishing a cache ten years ago looks a lot different then it does today. I can't imagine telling someone I can't publish their night cache because they stuck reflective pins in a tree.

Won't be placing any caches on that hike

Sorry for the rant but I'm hope you guys can give me a better perspective. I've just started hiding caches, been finding for a couple years, and I keep running into problems with my caches not meeting the rules, and therefor not getting published. Here is a breakdown of the problems I've had. 1. Reviewer notes: "This cache is a repurposed bright blue first aid kit box. It is screwed to the back side of a dead tree about 5 feet off the ground. The tree is located at the end of a short road/trail just off FS418." Reviewer Response: "Caches are placed so that the surrounding environment, whether natural or human-made, is safe from intentional or unintentional harm. Property must not be damaged or altered to provide a hiding place, clue, or means of logging a find." (visit link) Drilling or screwing into a fence pole, dead tree, and or tree stump, even though it is hidden and unlikely to cause any sort of damage, could cause geocaching to have a bad image in the view of the land managers. 2 & 3. Reviewers Note: I noticed that it is located less than 528' from the final location of an existing multi cache. This happened twice. 4. I gave "tips" in my traditional cache to help find your way to GZ. I didn't want people bushwhacking so I suggested which trail to take and which turn to make. The reviewer felt I was a multi-cache and wouldn't publish my traditional. 5. An issue with Arizona State Land Trust and not being able to place a cache on this type of public land. OK, so almost every cache that I've attempted to place in the last couple months has resulted in needing to make major changes or abandon the cache idea/place all together. Here are my problems with all the issues I've been having trying to get a cache published. 1. Any birdhouse cache would fall into the category of screwing into an object. In fact, placing rocks on top of a cache would "alter the surrounding environment" making the cache unpublishable. DNA tubes drilled into old stumps would also not work. 2 & 3. my cache was not within 528' of the final of either of these multi-caches. The CO of these Multi's gave false final coordinates so they could get them published in a spot that already had a cache. The false coordinates where where I was trying to publish a cache. 4. I don't think adding additional information like "take trail x to trail y and turn left" would count as a multi. Especially when you're censured with protecting the surrounding environment, which we obviously care so much about. 5. Tell Arizona to take a hike. My final note: I feel like maybe I should just omit information to the reviewer or find ways to sneak past their watchful eye, like giving fake final coordinates to multi and puzzle caches. What do you guys think?

I'm really liking your Hong Kong suggestion. Visiting Asia is top on my continent travel list. There are tons of caches in and around Hong Kong, love to hear your favorite. Also, finding a fight from the US would be a breeze.

My wife and I love to travel. We also love geocaching and we've found these two hobbies very compatible. This spring we traveled to Costa Rica and found our first cache outside the U.S. We've since decided to make traveling abroad a priority and want to make one trip outside the U.S. every year. It's time to start planning our next trip and I'm wanting to make it a geocaching adventure. What are your recommendations for geocaching trips outside the U.S.? Here are some or our requirements. It should be outside the U.S., Canada and Mexico. It should be somewhat accessible, not going to Antartica or Tuvalu. Should be a good place to visit in March, I haven't found a March event in Europe yet. Also, I was considering a trip to Brazil to find the last A.P.E cache. It would be an easy flight to Rio De Janeiro, lots to see and do there, followed by a short flight to San Paulo. There we would set out to locate the last APE. What other places on the planet would be good spots to geocache and why?

I'm just going to leave this here

Do you know how many they released?

Are there restrictions on making a commercial geocoins? I know that Jeep released thousands and thousands of TB's a number of years ago. As an avid geocacher and a employee of a national know outdoor recreation company I would love to see a series of geocoins come out with our logo on them. Are there any other companies that have geocoins? What have you guys and gals see?

Are there restrictions on making a commercial TB? I know that Jeep released thousands and thousands of TB's a number of years ago. As an avid geocacher and a employee of a national know outdoor recreation company I would love to see a series of TB's come out with our logo on them. Are there any other companies that have TB's? What have you guys and gals see?

Um, that's against the Guidelines, unless there's more to it than just having a certain amount of DNF logs: http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=206 Here is the 100 DNF challenge cache GC1MJ2X

A while back I found a Geocoin that I really admired. I wrote in the log about how cool this coin was and the CO messaged me that I could keep the coin. They only requested that I have the coin "visit" other caches. I did that for a while but have since stopped. I would like to get this coin moving again but don't want to just dump the coin anywhere. I was thinking about finding someone overseas that wanted to trade geocoins and sending it to them. I wanted to know if it is legit to send an active cache threw the mail to someone else or do you have to put it back in a cache. What are the "rules" surrounding this type of trade?

I need a standard cache.

Also, how water tight are ammo cans? I know they have a seal around them but are they really of submerged in water?

The reason I wanted to use a micro was because you would need to pull up on the fishing line to get the cache out. I would worry about the weight of an ammo can and the line braking. I know its 50 lb. test and could probably take it but I wouldn't want to find out. Also, din't want someone running fishing line threw there hand trying to pull up something to heavy.

Need some feedback on a cache container/hide plan. Ok, A 4 oz. fishing sinker, attached to 50 lb. line, attached to a bobber. The sinker has a water proof match stick container attached to it, inside is the log in a ziplock bag. The bobber floats at the top of the water and has a geocaching logo drawn on it. The whole setup is in a small lake so you need a small boat to get to it. The city offers boat rentals, paddle and peddle types, for use in the summer. Also, the cache is under 5-6 ft. of water. What do you think? Is this a legit cache hide? Do you see any fundamental problems with this cache that I haven't foreseen? Thanks

What's ALR?

I'm looking forward to my hundredth DNF. I saw a challenge cache a while back that you needed 100 DNF's to log.

Here's the scenario. You go to a cache site but can't find the cache so you log a DNF. A week of two later you go back and score a find. Do you edit the DNF log, the one from a couple weeks earlier, to a Found log or do you post a new found log? I know there is no right answer, just wanted to see what other people do. Also, what if you go back multiple days in a row looking and can't find. Do you log all the days as DNF or just one?

I'm Ok, a little shook up. I appreciate all the kind and supportive words. When the guy was talking to the police it sounded like he knew the CO. He said he was going to talk to his neighbor about removing the cache. He also said that he has had other problems with cachers. The problem I see is that there is a entrance as well as public property that leads into the forest at this spot. I like'n it to parking on the street and crossing someones lawn to get to the sidewalk. You know the small piece of grass between the street and the sidewalk. It was a little bigger then that space. I said 75ft before but I'm guessing it was more like 30 feet.

The Chris part

OK, I ordinarily wouldn't recommend calling the police when you find yourself trespassing - just get the hell out of there. However, since he blocked your exit preventing you from leaving, I guess you made the right call - if nothing else you'd have wanted an ambulance there if he'd shot you instead of throwing a punch. (I'm being serious.) Was there any type of signage or fencing to indicate private property? You have to be really careful in rural / remote areas - many who live in such places take their privacy VERY seriously. Don't trespass. BTW, it sounds like what happened to you is one of my biggest fears. There are places bordering public land where it is just super difficult to tell the difference between public property and private property, and so it is EASY to inadvertantly trespass. Couple that with a volatile land owner, and you have a really potentially dangerous situation. No signs and no fence. I thought that I might have just not seen a sign but I checked on my way out.

He was blocking the way back to my vehicle. I figured if I started to run he would attack. I would have had to run at and around him. I wanted to run before he punched me, I ran after he punched me. I'm a flight not a fight kind of person.

I was out geocaching today and got assaulted by a property owner. I love geocaching and this will not stop me but dang was it not fun. There was a five foot comrade to a forest access gate. I ended up parking on privet property ( thought it was the forest access parking). I cut across maybe 100ft of this guys property and he comes out yelling. I called 911 at which point he started throwing punches. Anyone ever had this or heard of this happening. Man what a bummer. However, some idiot will not, I repeat, will not not stop me from geocaching.

Do events count as caches. I'm on 299 and we are planning on going to a GC event tomorrow. I wanted to know if that event would be recorded as my 300th cache.