J the Goat

That's horrible. I'm willing to bet that Arizona is one of the few places anywhere that a cache like that could survive any sort of climate. Even then, duct tape gets dry and flakes off fairly quickly. Just not good I'd imagine...

Which is why one has to be careful setting up competition at events. Raffle prizes are one thing, competition prizes will open a whole new can of worms with the right people involved.

I like your multi idea, I'd find it. I'm in the camp that says micros are bad, although I do have a couple hidden. I wouldn't hide them again though, and with one of them I'm going to let it go until it dies and then not replace it. Smartphones aren't as accurate. Some people strongly disagree, but that's my opinion based on experience. Don't hide a micro in a place where you can hide something larger. Don't use carpy containers.

Anytime you set something up as a competition, the odds of people getting bent out of shape about the prizes/rewards are pretty high. Raffle drawings are one thing, encouraging people to be competative and then expecting that they won't be when it comes to the prizes is a little bit foolish IMHO.

Oh please, please, please don't use an iphone 3 to hide a geocache! I'd extend that to ask that you not use a phone at all to hide a cache, although plenty of folks swear upside down and backwards that their phone readings are accurate. My experiance with smartphone hides says otherwise. Pretty please...

Oh, oh, it's my turn! I get PO, we don't have PI here. Same oils, same idea. I've actually used Technu like sunblock in the past. Put it on before you go out, and then wash with it when you get home. Just an extra little added protection. If you were put on antibiotics, you developed something that IS NOT PI. Steroids and anti itch cream are pretty common place, however antibiotics are for infections. You noted in your OP that your leg or foot is infected; there's probably more to it. Maybe scratching opened up your leg and a bachteria was introduced. Maybe the inflamation caused a cellulitis. Keep a close eye on that part, and make sure to follow up with your physician if it seems at all like it's not getting better. Without knowing anything about the hide, I can't say whether the CO is partially responsible or not, you describe a hide that may or may not be in PI, the problem was your approach. We have a couple of cachers here who pay absolutely no attention to where they put their hides, and since they don't get the dreaded rash, they regularly put their caches right in the middle of PO bushes. There's no excuse for that, but as a seeker, you need to pick your path wisely

This is the biggest problem I see. Are there even GPS units with that capability?

Looks like the same cheap material as the offbrand Gladware. I'd imagine they aren't great.

3 out of the 4 are in pretty cool places. I managed to spread them all across town. That way if someone wants to find all four, they aren't done in 15 minutes. I'd be happy with a 75% interesting cache percentage. Congrats on the placements

That's pretty cool. I'm techologically retarded, so I'll be of no help with something like this but I very much appreciate this kind of effort. Bravo.

I initially read that as puppa-trolling :laughing:

There's actually a line of thought that says most foot problems are CAUSED by wearing shoes. While I'm not a barefooter, I know several. I'd probably do it if my feet weren't so soft and sensative

Those containers are really cool. I think it was mentioned before, but is there something interesting in the proximity of these sewer drains? Cool old buildings? Statues? You'll get plenty of finds, but there are also a large number of cachers who have no desire to dig around sewer grates solely because there's a cache there. I'd suggest that you branch out a little farther than just around the block, and place these well designed caches someplace interesting. Again, that's just a suggestion. Good job on the interesting containers

Why are you grudgingly awarding favorite points?

I think this is really cool. Keep on it :lol:

I have been at this for 9+ years, so when we got favorite points I awarded them to my favorites regardless of whether or not they were still active or not. I wouldn't dream of changing my mind about it. If they deserved the points then why not leave them....? I tend to agree with the Snoogs and the above bolded statement. That's not to say however, that I don't think there's a good point on the other side. Since people use favorite points to help them find caches, removing them from an archived cache and instead using them on an active cache could help people decide which caches to hunt. I'm pretty stingey with my points though, so I have quite a few just waiting to be used, but some people aren't. It's just however you feel is the right way to do it I suppose

This is the way I see it.

Actually, I think the mountain is open for hikers and moutain bikers to use during the off season. They attach bike racks to the back of the chair lifts and bring them up so people can go down. You have to pay to do this? I can't imagine they just open up the slopes, and it's free, and they are free of any liability. I still say no way at a privately ski facility without permission. Don't be fooled by the fact we know almost no one has permission to hide caches in store parking lots, and they get away with it. This ain't no parking lot. Now I could be very wrong here, but in Lake Tahoe, most of the ski resorts are part of the national forest. In the summer time, you can hike and bike all you want for no charge, unless you choose to use the lifts. It's pretty cool actually, if I'm right that is

Actually, I think the mountain is open for hikers and moutain bikers to use during the off season. They attach bike racks to the back of the chair lifts and bring them up so people can go down. You have to pay to do this? I can't imagine they just open up the slopes, and it's free, and they are free of any liability. I still say no way at a privately ski facility without permission. Don't be fooled by the fact we know almost no one has permission to hide caches in store parking lots, and they get away with it. This ain't no parking lot. Now I could be very wrong here, but in Lake Tahoe, most of the ski resorts are part of the national forest. In the summer time, you can hike and bike all you want for no charge, unless you choose to use the lifts. It's pretty cool actually, if I'm right that is

You littered to help your guardrail cache stay put? :blink:

I think the actions on both sides are silly. You throw down a container and log a find? That's not kosher with me. The CO should be more responsible and responsive with their hides. I have to ask you this though. You say you wouldn't put a cache at that location. Why were you hunting it? Why did you put one there? It almost seems like there's some personal aspect of this whole situation. You're clearly not a numbers hound, or at least not based on your find rate. I can't think of any reason you'd be so bent on logging a find on this cache under these circumstances

Coldgears, I will actually reimburse you the $4.81 if you put one of these things out there on a guardrail, and use the receipt as the logbook. Because I just want to see that. I'll name a cache after both of you if that whole thing happens. I'm still laughing Mr. Yuck, thanks for that. I mean it about the caches too....

Leave it to HF to be the first person to do a power trail in a constructive manner

Exactly my thoughts.

Same here, although a bit Southeast of the HF. Happy to give you some suggestions if you're headed this way.