J the Goat

I think that's a good idea. With your title, I thought you were going to ask about a bogus clue on the cache page. That would be horrible. Just be ready for some people to log the dummy, even if it's identified as the dummy.

OOO OOO, like a secret trail dance? Ya, I like it. Okay, okay, okay, when I am coming down the trail, I'll flap my arms like a bird and repeat "giggity giggity" like quagmire. Sorry, that might have been rude. Couldn't resist though. It's pretty much the GPS and the searching in the area you are about to/just did. Or we could all wear court jester hats...

You could copy and paste into babblefish and see what kind of silliness comes out.

Do not be looking inside electrical boxes. Electricity is dangerous and kills "profesionals" every year let alone geocachers hiding stuff where it doesn't belong. WWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOO This is the safety police, come out with you hands in the air. Some professional died doing that. Disregard my rookie partners order, you my trip and break you neck and statistics show more people die from a trip and fall than they do from what you are attempting. Just stay put, do not move and we will come in and wrap you up in a nice protective foam. I can't believe you forgot the bubble wrap, knee pads, and full hockey helmet. Stick to regulations officer, or you'll get written up...

I resent that! There are plenty of hard mountains around here. Take Cascade mountain. Northeast of provo, utah where BYU is. Most of it is at least a 30-45 degree incline unless you take the nice part of the trail, a.k.a. the bottom half(even then it is still near the incline of the rest of the mountain) and goes up about 6000 feet above the valley, ending at about 10,800 feet. And for those of you who don't hike a lot, that is actually pretty steep. It is actually harder to climb by a good length than Mt. Timpanogos next to it is, even though Timp is about 1000 feet higher. I don't understand the source of your resentment. You do realize Utah isn't in the midwest, right? In fact it's a full state removed from the midwest. And the midwest is much more flat than Utah. Having a pretty diverse sampling of cache finds by location myself, I have to say I have also noticed a strong regional bias to ratings. Terrain especially depends on the overall terrain of the area as another poster described. Identical actual terrain caches in very flat region would be given a higher rating than it would in a more hilly/mountainous area. I've similarly noticed regional difficulty rating differences too, but mostly that Seattle area people all think their caches are much easier than people in other places who rate their similar caches as much more difficult. Word.

Not sure how that last one happened....

As a premium member you have access to some of the hardest caches in Geocaching. Any of these will give you a run for your money.... Psycho Urban Cache Series Specifically the Vinny & Sue Team ones. Holy Freakin Crud Psycho Urban Caches. I gotta make it to Maryland.

If you pay for a premium membership, that feature is available. If not, just click on the google maps link in the bottom right corner of the cache page and follow the route you want to travel. The caches will show up there.

Let's see.... Found a matress behind a dumpster sitting next to some empty liquor bottles. I didn't spend long looking for that cache. I found a frying pan, a pair of shoes, and some used TP next to the pile of human excremant that was about 5 feet from said frying pan. That one was also a quick leave. One of my favorite caches here is called Circle of Stones. It's on top of a little hill and there's a little setup that looks like an old school camp ground/meeting place. Not unique to me, but interesting nonetheless...

We have several local LEOs who cache around here. They regularly stop when they see people searching for their caches and will give hints if needed. Pretty cool...

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As I'm not totally sure how to post a link, I'll just not try. Look on youtube under impossible cache. It's most definitely a 5 star terrain. Don't think there are any 5's around here. Have a couple 4 and 4.5's, and they seem right to me. I can totally see where the frustration would come in though, I think it's probably similar to a 1/1 being like a 3/2. There's a puzzle cache kind of near here that requires 3 mountian climbs. The first 2 are for caches with the coords for the third, and the last is for the final. When you get to the final, not only is it up a mountain (real mountain, this isn't the midwest) there are two locks you have to pick to get into the cache. I've not done this one yet. I'll see if I can find the GC#...

Yup. Me too. While on the trail, I hear a lot of myself grunting, panting, and wheezing. It's a musical symphony when I'm caching with some of my fat boy buddies. A very sweaty symphony...

So this why the cable company gives me a 4 hour appointment window?

Yes, very true. A couple of my favorites have been creative micros. The non creative throwdowns are the ones that its hard to leave a decent log for every one. I always try to log something though, I don't think any of my logs has ever been TFTC and nothing else.

Should we stay away from mentioning that if the control burn was done by the property owner, then these 3 caches might just be on private land? Alright, just my pair of pennies; signed means found. If the owner decides to archive these caches and verifies your finds, then maybe a found log would be alright, but I would say not until then. Congrats on finding plastic cache containers after a fire though, strong work.

As I've been at this for less than a year, I don't think I'm the right person to ask about a change over time. I have however noticed that a lot of the newer cachers in my area write very short logs on whichever cache they find, be it a micro or a nice packed ammo can at the top of the valley. I try to keep my logs long enough to reflect my hunt. If it was a park and grab kind of day, it's hard to scribe a paragraph for every LPC I found. It would make sense that the increase in micros would lead to this situation, but I can't say I've seen it first hand. Ask me again in 3 years.

DANGER! DANGER! Dangerous topic, and here's why. Plenty of people not only have 20, 30, 45 or more minutes to look for caches, but there is a large number of people who enjoy the long hunts and dangerous hides. Here's what you'll be told in a nutshell: We all play the game our own way. Filter out those you don't want to find (ie high terrain or diff. levels) Micros are bad If you don't like it, turn around and go the other way. Now all those who post after me can give you some sort of variation of one of those. There's more, but I can't remember them all now.

This may be an old topic, but as I don't have the patience to sift through hundreds of old pages, here it goes. How often are new caches posted in your area? I know everyone's "area" is a different size, so use your own area for the answer. I'm just curious if locally we're more stagnant than most other places of vice-versa. We get maybe 2 or 3 new caches a month on average, depending on who gets a wild hair and drops a few at a time.

Something like that should be turned over to the police. Yup. Were they hidden at all, or just out in the open? That's actually really strange the more I think about it.

Way to keep a low profile... Are you trying to tell me I cant cache, dressed as I wish? That I have to conform to the physical drollness of society to be treated like the human I obviously am? That because of how I look, I somehow deserve to be treated poorly when I'm minding my own business doing absolutely nothing wrong? You are very clearly one who looks for conflict. Nobody said anything about the way you dress, I was originally referring to your interaction with said officer. In my experience, those who are very touchy have reason to be. A couple more things: Most cops base their dealings with the public on the attitude of who they're dealing with. Most, not all. Based on how you reacted to all of the posts before this one, I'm willing to bet you started with an F-off attitude. That'll get you nowhere with anyone. #2: You have your lawyer on speed dial? I don't even have a lawyer. That would lead me to believe that you've had similar problems in the past. One cop gives you a hard time; might be a jerk of a cop. Enough cops give you a hard time that you have your attorney on speed dial; you might want to step back and examine your own actions a bit. #3: While I may not be quite as ummm.... off the cuff (?) as you are when it comes to appearance, I do sport a few tattoos and piercings, am quite large and regularly let my beard/goatee get at least out of control. Never once have I been harassed beyond what I deserve. It's not about how you look, it's about how you act. I'm very sorry you took my comments personally, they weren't meant that way. I'm also sorry this thread went so far off topic. And please don't get me wrong, I fully understand that my observations are from a computer screen thousands of miles away. I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again. Nothing personal, really

Got off work at 2 am, and instead of heading home to get some sleep before a decent travel day, I decided to go after a new cache that had just popped up a couple hours before hand. After an hour and a half of repositioning my car for the headlights (sans flashlight) and poking around in blackberry bushes, I just went home. No FTF for me. Still haven't mastered the art of explaining to the wife why I'm home at 3:45 instead of 10 after 2 in the morning.

Way to keep a low profile...

You're in LA, nobody notices. Not true, just ask OJ...

I'm all about the truth. Usually. Friend of mine and I were caching out of town. We had just started looking around a telephone pole in a vacant parking lot when we were approached by an interesting gentleman who seemingly just finished a conversation with his feet. He asked if we worked with the telephone company. After looking at my buddy, then looking back to the car with my kids inside, I just said "yup." Been approached a couple other times, but I usually avoid busy places if I can.