J the Goat

I'll take this one step further and entirely disagree. To expect someone from another country who speaks a totally different language as their native tounge to make their cache page, or anything for that matter, in your language as well is not only unreasonable buy totally self centered. The points were raised that english isn't even the most commonly spoken language out there, why make that the "official" Groundspeak language? Why don't you post your cache pages in Manderin to accomodate the Asian tour bus crowd? And to call English a privileged language? That's just this side of offensive.

I swear, I'm gonna do this one day.

It depends a lot on the cache type as well. There are several caches around here that haven't been logged in a year or more. Without visiting them, I know they're fine. Did you DNF the cache and post a NM? Have there been DNF's since? Is this a cache that can survive a year without a visit? If I were the CO, (who is obviously still active if he/she responded to the SBA) and the cache were a seldom visited cache in a remote location, I'd be pretty ticked off if someone essentially posted an armchair SBA after one visit and one note. That may not be the case, but that's kind of the way it sounds like you went about it. Now, an urban hide that's likely to be seen at least once a month? Yes, needs to be checked. Hey, who took my soap box...

I tasted bacon-flavored beer at a homebrew club meeting once. Oh wait, that's off-topic. Let me bring this back on topic: I don't much care for religious tracts either, in a cache or elsewhere. But I fail to see why finding one (in a cache, or elsewhere) sends some people into such a tizzy. Read it if you want to. Or don't. If it's your cache, trash the thing. But there's really no need for all the angst. Bacon Flavored Beer? Oh man.... Can I..... Was it.... Oh man.... This is my last post on this topic. Bacon flavored beer....

What do you regulars say??? ding ding? I say the boy needs to get over himself, and that a Moderator should close this trolling-for-trouble thread. I'm not a regular, but I wholeheartedly agree. To help this process along, this will be my second to last post on this topic.

While I still maintain my original position, I just thought of something. Am I the only one who has gathered that the guy who said that forum users are retired cachers, said it IN THE FORUMS? Now to go outside...

Now I'm torn. I think this is a great limmrick, and would be fun for me to find. Still not sure about the decoy thing though. Boils down to this: it's your cache, do what you want.

*Cracks Knuckles* Here is my statement for both Snoogans (who, by the way, has aguably my favorite name and avatar picture to date) and whoever that other guy was who Snoogans posted this topic for. Who gives a crap either way? What do you care if somebody posts in the forums? What do you care if somebody calls you a retired cacher? There are no valid arguments on either side because it's a stupid argument to begin with. There. I said it. I also have my kevlar vest and riot shield at the ready. Now I'm gonna go caching with my laptop at starbucks so I can find an LPC while logging on the forums. How does that fit into your discussion?

I think I agree with this more. Nothing wrong with upping the difficulty if it's too low, and just put the scientific plant name as the clue.

I think that's a good idea. With your title, I thought you were going to ask about a bogus clue on the cache page. That would be horrible. Just be ready for some people to log the dummy, even if it's identified as the dummy.

OOO OOO, like a secret trail dance? Ya, I like it. Okay, okay, okay, when I am coming down the trail, I'll flap my arms like a bird and repeat "giggity giggity" like quagmire. Sorry, that might have been rude. Couldn't resist though. It's pretty much the GPS and the searching in the area you are about to/just did. Or we could all wear court jester hats...

You could copy and paste into babblefish and see what kind of silliness comes out.

Do not be looking inside electrical boxes. Electricity is dangerous and kills "profesionals" every year let alone geocachers hiding stuff where it doesn't belong. WWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOO This is the safety police, come out with you hands in the air. Some professional died doing that. Disregard my rookie partners order, you my trip and break you neck and statistics show more people die from a trip and fall than they do from what you are attempting. Just stay put, do not move and we will come in and wrap you up in a nice protective foam. I can't believe you forgot the bubble wrap, knee pads, and full hockey helmet. Stick to regulations officer, or you'll get written up...

I resent that! There are plenty of hard mountains around here. Take Cascade mountain. Northeast of provo, utah where BYU is. Most of it is at least a 30-45 degree incline unless you take the nice part of the trail, a.k.a. the bottom half(even then it is still near the incline of the rest of the mountain) and goes up about 6000 feet above the valley, ending at about 10,800 feet. And for those of you who don't hike a lot, that is actually pretty steep. It is actually harder to climb by a good length than Mt. Timpanogos next to it is, even though Timp is about 1000 feet higher. I don't understand the source of your resentment. You do realize Utah isn't in the midwest, right? In fact it's a full state removed from the midwest. And the midwest is much more flat than Utah. Having a pretty diverse sampling of cache finds by location myself, I have to say I have also noticed a strong regional bias to ratings. Terrain especially depends on the overall terrain of the area as another poster described. Identical actual terrain caches in very flat region would be given a higher rating than it would in a more hilly/mountainous area. I've similarly noticed regional difficulty rating differences too, but mostly that Seattle area people all think their caches are much easier than people in other places who rate their similar caches as much more difficult. Word.

Not sure how that last one happened....

As a premium member you have access to some of the hardest caches in Geocaching. Any of these will give you a run for your money.... Psycho Urban Cache Series Specifically the Vinny & Sue Team ones. Holy Freakin Crud Psycho Urban Caches. I gotta make it to Maryland.

If you pay for a premium membership, that feature is available. If not, just click on the google maps link in the bottom right corner of the cache page and follow the route you want to travel. The caches will show up there.

Let's see.... Found a matress behind a dumpster sitting next to some empty liquor bottles. I didn't spend long looking for that cache. I found a frying pan, a pair of shoes, and some used TP next to the pile of human excremant that was about 5 feet from said frying pan. That one was also a quick leave. One of my favorite caches here is called Circle of Stones. It's on top of a little hill and there's a little setup that looks like an old school camp ground/meeting place. Not unique to me, but interesting nonetheless...

We have several local LEOs who cache around here. They regularly stop when they see people searching for their caches and will give hints if needed. Pretty cool...

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As I'm not totally sure how to post a link, I'll just not try. Look on youtube under impossible cache. It's most definitely a 5 star terrain. Don't think there are any 5's around here. Have a couple 4 and 4.5's, and they seem right to me. I can totally see where the frustration would come in though, I think it's probably similar to a 1/1 being like a 3/2. There's a puzzle cache kind of near here that requires 3 mountian climbs. The first 2 are for caches with the coords for the third, and the last is for the final. When you get to the final, not only is it up a mountain (real mountain, this isn't the midwest) there are two locks you have to pick to get into the cache. I've not done this one yet. I'll see if I can find the GC#...

Yup. Me too. While on the trail, I hear a lot of myself grunting, panting, and wheezing. It's a musical symphony when I'm caching with some of my fat boy buddies. A very sweaty symphony...

So this why the cable company gives me a 4 hour appointment window?

Yes, very true. A couple of my favorites have been creative micros. The non creative throwdowns are the ones that its hard to leave a decent log for every one. I always try to log something though, I don't think any of my logs has ever been TFTC and nothing else.

Should we stay away from mentioning that if the control burn was done by the property owner, then these 3 caches might just be on private land? Alright, just my pair of pennies; signed means found. If the owner decides to archive these caches and verifies your finds, then maybe a found log would be alright, but I would say not until then. Congrats on finding plastic cache containers after a fire though, strong work.