J the Goat
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Ed; I hadn't been aware of that site until now. You have a new reader
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Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya
*** The preceding was intended to be humorous. As it will very likely fail at its intended goal, please accept my apologies ahead of time for wasting 10 seconds of your life.
"Offense taken ya freakin eye patch wearing peacenik pie rat hippy" yelled the eyeliner wearing freak.
Apologies ahead of time = I intend to offend and wish to deflect.
I'm offended by eye patches AND eye liner. Meh.
Here's the thing. I don't know anyone from this thread personally. Wait, that's not true, I went to high school with Nymph. She said mean things about my relatives, or so she says. Either way, I don't know anyone else on this thread personally. I appreciate the humor that some of you put out, and I also appreciate the snark. It's an art, at least it it's done well.
I'm sorry, it's early, I'm tired and I have nothing else to do, but I have to be awake. Here's the jist. I like to think that even those of you (just one or two I think) I've gotten into cyber b******* contests with would be willing, if I were in the area, to take me out caching. I know you're all welcome up here. Put the same group of people in the same place for long enough, and rough things are going to be said. Real, online, family, neighbors, anyone anywhere. Newbies who get offended need to suck it up, I did and so did most of you. The old timers (I am not one, please don't mistake my tone for thinking I'm established here) do need to treat those same newbies a little bit nicer. Usually. No, sometimes...
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It's a good idea. Unless someone thinks it's not. We all play the game differently, thanks for the suggestion. Hope you enjoy doing it that way, and I hope you get a lot of people to follow your lead.
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This has been going on darn near as long as geocaching. Forget even trying to reason with people like that. They will never give up their righteous crusade, no matter how wrong they are. Fortunately, for the most part, these types usually have a short attention span.
Works both ways. Most times this subject comes up Geocachers deny vehemently having ever caused any damage.
I think you're mistaken. In my experience, we try not to cause damage. I don't recall ever seeing anyone say "I never left a mark!" In making an effort to leave things as close as possible to how they were found (and regularly in better shape if you CITO), we are doing our part. Of course there are cachers who don't pay any attention to their surroundings and make no effort to keep things the way they should be. They are the minority, and most of them are staying in the urban areas chasing LPCs and other hides on or near pavement. Those of us who venture into the "wild" are there because we like it.
Have I broken tree branches? Yup. Have I squashed mushrooms? Yup. Will I do both again? Probably. Is it intentional? No way.
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Not surprising from the pacific northwest. Being from Northern California, I'm pretty familiar with these eco-nazis and they're BS. I'd love to sit down with this person and explain things to them face to face. Then I would go out and kick the tires on their big SUV and throw their cell phone into the river. Tell 'em the crawdads had to make a call.
That would be hilarious.
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If you activated the TB, it will be in your inventory. You can write a note and drop it in as normal. I don't know if you have to wait until it's published to drop it or not.
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I just read the log. Very well put, I wasn't aware that you grew up out there. I've not made it out that direction yet, but after that log I'm going to have to soon. See you tomorrow.
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...I do think that part of it is a personality thing though, ...
Sure it's a personality thing, and in an open community we're going to have a very wide range of personalities.
I don't, however, believe that most of us would act at work, church or our Grandma's dinner table the way we act in here, and we should endeavor to act no differently in here than in those situations.
Bleeping Italian grandmas!
You have one of those too huh?
I actually tone down my natural responses here. At home, at work, and in public in general, I pretty openly speak my mind. The only real reason I refrain from it at G'ma's table is because there I'm always surrounded by people who are much wittier than I am and are much quicker with the harsh words. I'm out of my league there. In my limited experience, I've not seen rude or inappropriate in my time here, at least not too much.
But as I said at the beginning of my first post, I agree completely with your statements, it's the right way to play. No snark.
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A couple of new forum posters have recently pointed out that we really are pretty tough on new folks.
I hate it when I see a new poster express something like 'Sorry I asked, I won't be back'.
Even when it isn't pointed out I see a few threads where we really jumped on a newbie who thought it safe to ask a question here.
I'm as guilty of it as anyone.
I know, folks really should search for a topic before asking about it, but a lot of new forum users don't know that. And our search engine seriously sux; even I can't use it effectively. I usually use Google, but a newbie wouldn't know to do that.
And yes, thanks to wonderful Moderators this forum is much better than a lot of them out there, which is why this forum and my local state forum are the only ones I participate in... but the fact that we're better than some others is no excuse for us to be inconsiderate of anyone, especially new folks who may never have participated in any other forum.
There's a core group of us who post just about every day and read just about every thread. For example I read every post in the Geocaching Topics forum and reply to a lot of them. I think that leads us to a bit of impatience when a new forum member posts a question we're all well expressed and perhaps a bit jaded about. We tend to be a bit unkind to those who don't know what we know.
Some of us cut pretty close to the edges of the forum guidelines with our arguments and slaps at each other. I've met many a cacher who won't come into Geocaching Topics because they feel that we've created a toxic environment.
We develop relationships, healthy and otherwise, we develop mental images of our peers, incorrect or not, we begin to talk as if we know each other, and we usually know pretty much how each of us will respond to each other and to each topic (we're really pretty predictable), and among 'old-timers' that's okay, but all of that can come off to a newbie as being pretty harsh and exclusive.
People should not have to come to this forum with thick skin and flame suits. Sometimes I think that we forget that we can disagree without being disagreeable.
I will do better about welcoming new people to the forum and answering their questions.
I hope that you will take a moment to consider who the person is that started the thread or made the reply. Check their post count. If someone has just a few posts here maybe lighten up on them, at least until they get a feel for this place.
This forum has a terrible reputation amongst geocachers at large, and that's the direct result of those of us who regularly play here. Let's do better... for sure it wouldn't hurt to have some new voices and opinions!
"Why can't we all get along?", Kum Bah Ya, group hug and all that!
I completely agree. I do think that part of it is a personality thing though, I'm still one of said newbies, but have never gotten my feelings hurt. It's a balance, but one that takes a lot more effort from the experienced posters.
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It seems to be a bit regional. A large should actually be larger than an ammo can, those should be regular. Small could be the size of a plastic sandwich container, or a planters peanut jar. Micros should be film canister, water proof match containers, things of that nature, and nanos are usually listed as micros but are about the size of the eraser on a pencil.
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Back in 2004 we had a guy who became enamored with a 1" paddle bit once he learned that it was just right for film cans, so he took to drilling holes for them in live trees, stumps, park fence posts, hand rails, sign posts... anything he could find that his portable drill would bore a hole in. He put out a 20-something cache series on a 4wd trail... every one of them film cans in holes bored 5' high in live trees. We (our local caching community) would complain and get them archived about as fast as he put them out.
He joined our local forum and pretty much said he didn't care what we thought, he was having fun, leave him alone.
Finally he put out a real cache with trade items listed. Woohoo! He's learned his lesson and started putting out decent caches, think I.
This one came out about 9 p.m. less than a mile from my house so I leapt into the cachemobile and was FTF.
I get to the abandoned mall parking lot and the coords tell me that it's 40' down a steep hill, and it is obvious that folks have been using this place for a dump.
The hill is too steep and slick to walk on so I'm sliding along on my butt amidst the refuse that's been dumped down this hill, broken glass, pieces of metal, busted shopping carts and plastic bags full of foul-smelling no-telling-what sort of garbage.
I found the plastic mayonnaise jug under a piece of sheet metal, signed the log, pondered the situation a bit and took it home with me.
Yep, I stole it. Still have it in my barn.
Sent a Should Be Archived note to the Reviewer and that was the last anyone heard of that cacher.
Good riddance.
That was the worst cache I have ever found and the only cache I've ever muggled, and I don't feel one bit bad about it!
For Shame!
Just kidding, strong work.
I searched for a cache that was supposed to have been a micro that was hung somewhere in a pine tree. The kicker was that this particular tree was growing behind a dumpster in a parking lot, and between the dumpster and tree was a soiled mattress, several empty booze bottles (plastic, not the good stuff), and a rusty old pot (the cooking kind) with some unpleasent looking stuff stuck to the sides. DNF'd that one, which eventually got archived thanks to like 7 DNFs in a row. Not a cool cache.
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So I got's me permission from my wife to take memorial day and make it an all day cache adventure. I was thinkin about setting up a doughnuts and coffee breakfast event in the parking lot at Olompoli and going on a cache hunt hike afterwards. Anyone interested? Anyone see any problems with this?
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I'll go the other way. There are most likely forums in his/her primary language, so the purpose of posting in this one is lost on me. That, coupled with the exteme ease of figuring out cache owner options invites, from some, a bit of snark.
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Congrats on the milestone, 3 in 3 or 4 days should be doable. I was going to try to get to 300 by sunday for my event (you're all welcome to attend if you'll be in the Northern California area GC25MR1) but we've been rained out for a few weeks now. Had a couple potential days, but nothing panned out. I did manage to find a cache placed in '01 though, my oldest to date. I was supposed to go after a '00 cache today, but alas it's raining and the 4X4 trails are closed.
At this point, I'm trying to figure out where I went off topic. Sorry
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You should put the cache in a duck decoy....
Perfect, of course...how about a pink flamingo?
Dude, I love that. I'm gonna do that!
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You should put the cache in a duck decoy....
As far as terrain, I'm of the opinion that just because you need a little inflatable raft a few feet across the poo pond doesn't necessarily make it a 5 star terrain. I know, special equipment and all, but that just doesn't ring right for me. Maybe rate it 4 stars and state in the description that a raft is highly suggested. It does sound swimable, and while maybe not the cleanest swim in the world, the distance could probably be done by my 5 year old.
Oh man, now I'm gonna get yelled at by those in wheelchairs, those who don't know how to swim, and anyone else who has a valid reason to stay out of the duck pond. My apologies beforehand...
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thanks everyone for the detailed information, this will help me post a great cache not limited to abilities
Everyone's already given you good advice, but I wanted to tell you that I think it's very cool that you're placing caches with the differently abled in mind. When I first started caching I could barely walk, and I tell you I really appreciated the easy terrain ones back then.
In fact, a good friend of mine just had back surgery and was interested in caching, but didn't start because he thought it would be too difficult for him. I said, "No! Try to find ones rated at a 1 terrain, you can definitely cache even if you can't walk far!" Well, he joined and he's been finding caches... thanks to nice folks like you
Nymph beat me to it. I have no problem with higher difficulty terrains, however I'm regularly out with my 5 year old, 3 year old, and now carry my 8 month old on my back. They prefer 1-2 terrain caches, so they're important for lots of different folks.
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You mean a pair of tweezers and a match?
I hope you find some good answers to your question because I'm confused why a special product is needed. I give credit to the marketing guy behind that. "I made cheaper tweezers out of plastic. How can I charge twice as much for them and have people buy them instead of the metal ones?" Answer: "Name them Tick Removal Plyers!"I didn't come into this thread with the intention to make fun of the product you found. I was actually hoping this post was about The Tick.
Man, I loved that cartoon.
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My geocaching aesthetic requires a rating system completely designed by me and my hand picked team that is ran directly on gc.com.
My geocaching aesthetic requires that Groundspeak hire a proofreader to check all forum posts so that I never have to be exposed to phrases such as "is ran" ever again.
My geocaching aesthetic requires that I don't have to hear grammar lessons from English teachers (Well at least the State Sider version of English) on these forums ever again. I'm entitled!
KACHOW!
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Bus stop hides can be cool. There's a multi here in town that's one of my fav's so far. The CO got permission from the local transit authority to use UV pen on the inside of their shelters. Stage one has a UV light for people to use to find the rest of the stops. 4 stages, 3 of them you need the UV light to find the coords/location of the container. It's hidden in the shelter, and even has room for small coins/bugs. Very cool.
I also doing urban runs sometimes. They're great for breaking things up sometimes.
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Sorry, hadn't seen the warning before. No malice intended.
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I keep reading about this backdoor. I'm going to have to look this thing up, just out of curiosity.
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i've hollowed out a log which is large enough to hide a small container, i've saved the bark intact which i'm planning to connect with some kind of hinge but i'm not sure how to do it, my options are glue or small screw into the bark but i'm concerned the bark wont be strong enough to take the screws. any advice would be appreciated
I've seen it done with screws, and with wooden dowels in pre drilled holes. Never made one though, and I'm not sure about longevity.
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How to change log in name?
Read the topic at the top of the "getting started" page.
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I like the idea of thanking these morons. What baffles me is that they spend the time to look up caches online, go find them, log it, but I'd also bet that these same people aren't spending time on the beach with trash bags picking up actual litter.