J the Goat

Please please please tell me this was a typo...

Fail! How do you fail your own test?

If you mean my post showing that the majority of caches in your area are in fact not micros I ran a PQ on the last cache you had found at the time, assuming that it would be close to your home. That's usually how I 'locate' folks who don't put their location in their profile. As far as a Where Are You From topic, I suspect that if people wanted others to know that then they would put it in their profile and it would show up here in every post... so no thread would be needed! Could they also maybe put it in their name? Might that work too?

Just keep it off the cache page and I don't see why you couldn't do it.

Alright, I didn't read through all the responses to this question before posting, but that's okay. The question I see posed is about people not actually finding the cache but logging online, if I have that confused then I apologize for the misinturrpretation. While the signing of a log proves the find, a lack of signature doesn't prove a non-find. You, or anyone else for that matter, can't prove that someone didn't find your cache. You can suspect it, but in the end, it is about signing VS. not signing. Like those before me, I say if you feel like deleting the log because you think the person in question didn't find the cache, go for it. I support your decision This has probably been covered somewhere in the 50 or so responses I didn't bother to read.

Don't assume that the caches in the mountains are more advanced. While they are going to take a bit more effort to get to, lots of times those caches are easier to find once you get close. They're actually good ones to start with. Welcome to the addiction, have fun and play nice.

Hi welcome to the wide world of Geocaching Forums!! - I noticed you are new to the activity and have used the words "stick it in your ear" in a post. In general, many cachers feel that is is ok to post as often as you like but inviting someone to stick it in their ear is generally frowned on. However, it really is up to you and the website moderator as the website certainly does allow you to post "stick it in your ear". Just thought I'd let you know - have fun - hope to meet you on the trail someday!!

I agree, I think you have a skewed idea of what an ALR is. Requiring somebody to sign the log is not an ALR. Putting locks on the cache is not an ALR. Back to the OP, I wouldn't put so much description about your final. You want it to be evil? Make it a surprise. I also agree with the point made earlier about the second paragraph, it's a little like you're speaking to a third grader.

I have mixed feelings about my name being on a list on a website that I have no connection to.

How I do it also. I just figure that's the intended manner of the cache, so that's the "right" way to do it. To each his own.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how this can be accomplished in a manner that would prevent someone from just finding the challenge cache, signing the log, then posting a found it log? Granted, even using a method of distributing the coordinates of a challenge cache via email, others could still obtain them through a phone-a-friend, but I'm just not coming up with a solution that would provide coordinates only to those that have completed a challenge without some kind of owner involvement. You could make a series of caches with pieces of the puzzle in each of the caches so that in order to have all the information for the final, they have to find each cache before that. It won't prevent sharing between people, but as long as all the info is in the other caches, there isn't any reason to get involved as the owner. I'm working on one like that now, but I'm no good with puzzles so I'm having a bit of a hard time with that...

According to weather.com, Keystone is in Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, South Dakota, and West Virginia. Must be a quantum thing... until observed, you really have no idea which place he's in... ... but once you pinpoint him, then you can't measure his velocity. Keystone just returned from buying a complete new set of stainless steel kitchen appliances, in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania. "E-mail me for the coords" is only allowed on a grandfathered basis for DeLorme, All Counties and analogous challenges. A newly published challenge cache ought not have this feature. We see many submissions modeled after the old grandfathered type, and the reviewers will ask the challenge cache owner to modify the verification procedure. The cache location needs to be at the posted coordinates or in a publicly visible additional waypoint, or must be ascertainable without owner involvement (such as solving a puzzle). Stainless steel appliances? Volunteer reviewers must get paid wonderfully! Thanks for the clarification. Now we just need to know when said cache was placed

This seems to closely resemble the banned codeword caches. I can't imagine this is kosher, however I have no official insight on the subject. Where's Keystone?

We are planning to go to Muir Woods after a brief stop in SF and then head up the PCH toward Ft. Bragg. We'll be passing close to Ukiah on the way home. I'm not done bookmarking that leg of the trip. Highway 1 isn't usually called the PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) in Northern California. PCH is officially only between Dana Point (between LA and San Diego) and Oxnard in Southern California. I was actually going go suggest going up route 1 through Ft. Bragg. Although I haven't actually geocached in Ft. Bragg, I *was* born there. There's a really fun virt in Fort Bragg. Some nice caches in the area too. I need to get over there...

Yup - no big science needed. Just load up all the local caches. Find a good location for a hide and then look down at your GPS to see if another cache is within .1 miles of the current position. +1 Well, +2 I guess...

We are planning to go to Muir Woods after a brief stop in SF and then head up the PCH toward Ft. Bragg. We'll be passing close to Ukiah on the way home. I'm not done bookmarking that leg of the trip. Ukiah is about an hour and a half, maybe a bit less, off the PCH. Let me know if you decide to pass through, if you feel like it. If not, those are "must hits" if they're your type of cache. It's doubtful that I'll have time to do either of those with my wife and 2.5yo son along, but they look interesting for another trip. Sacramento, the Tahoe run and the SF-Ft. Bragg runs are all family time. I can cache as long as cachin' doesn't appear to be the objective and a nice spot or a short hike/carry for a toddler is what I'll be looking for. Virts and Earthcaches really fill the ticket for these outings when I can't get away to hunt. My wonderful wife is cutting me loose to drive up to Seattle and back home while she stays with family in Sac until she flies back. This will probably be my last GW appearance for awhile and she was very cool to encourage me to go. I'll be looking for more adventurous caches once I get past the Oregon/Cali border and have some time to kill before the first event I signed up for on 6/30. If I'm not bruised, scratched, and bleeding at that event, I'll be surprised. Oh, I understand. I do most of my caching with my 3 little ones who are 4, 5, and 9 months. Neither are kid friendly unless you 4 wheel it to Bovine Hill, and then it's still rough going. If you do find yourself in the area, let me know. There are plenty of kid friendly caches in the area that still require a bit of a hike/walk. If not, there are plenty of nice caches in the Fort Bragg area, and of course SF and the greater North Bay. I think there's a webcam cache somewhere on the pier...

We are planning to go to Muir Woods after a brief stop in SF and then head up the PCH toward Ft. Bragg. We'll be passing close to Ukiah on the way home. I'm not done bookmarking that leg of the trip. Ukiah is about an hour and a half, maybe a bit less, off the PCH. Let me know if you decide to pass through, if you feel like it. If not, those are "must hits" if they're your type of cache.

Depending on how far you want to travel, we have a couple I think might be worth your trip about two hours north of San Fran and 3 hours west of Sac. One is a Y2K cache (GCD4) thats only accesable by a pretty decent hike or 4WD. The other I would suggest in the area (that I've done) 1s GC183Z2. It's a good hike with outstanding views of our little valley. There are a few more around here that you might enjoy, but those are the two I've most enjoyed. There are also some I've not yet gotten to, I wouldn't mind hunting with the Snoogs...

Who cares about "the count" you're not going to win anything for having the most. And, obviously you do care otherwise you wouldn't call someone a 'retard'. If you truly don't care then why call names, and if you DO care say so. Caching tells a lot about a person's character. Only the person, him/her self, knows the truth. The bottom line is I hope that all people do the right thing regardless, but I know we live in a world of liars, cheats and name callers. Guess all of us don't grow up beyond middle school. humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result. You want to find the word that definition belongs too? ~~~EDIT~~~ altered a homonym. I would expect a definition in your own words, or at least cite your source. For others the word being referenced is irony from the Latin ironia (by the way this is a feminine word, don't know if it means anything) Honor virutis preamium (do you know what that means?) No need to cite my source as the definition I have used cannot be found in singularity other than where I have posted it. To pose that there plagiarizeation (can't seem to spell that correctly for the life of me) without citing the source is dishonorable don't ya think? To pose that there is no virtue in using a memorized definition also also shows zero virtue don't ya think? And failing to see that when a challenge is posed, citing a source reduces the level of challenge is just... Well never you mind what I think it is, I'll leave that to your imagination. ~~spelling~~~ The blue one seems to be in rare form tonight. I'll have to read this post two or three more times to get it fully, but I think I got the gist Back on topic, it's not something I would do. Like somebody, or several somebodys, before me said; I never found it. I knew where it was from the beginning. I see it as no different than logging your own hide as a find. Are there rules against it? Nope. If that's how you want to play the game, by all means, go ahead. It just looks like bad form from this side of the rock.

There are several ways, none of them are what I would call easy. I think the easiest, and I could be mistaken here, would be to find one of a series and then look at the profile of the owner for the rest of the series.

This is an Historic mining town celebrating 100 years of gold finds in the area so what does not turn your crank may well for others living in this area .Rocky areas abound and are utilized by cachers here and i see you still are a premium member after asking why you should be one after your membership expired. as for making a stink it was not over the cache but over what i considered attitude But now that I have been enlightend by you Forum dwellers i now know that form letters are used .Holy anal retention Batman First off, rock hides in rock piles are unimaginative and otherwise lame. So I don't care why you are hiding the cache where you are if it's just going to be a lame rock in a rock pile. Second. If you aren't going to give a hint, don't put anything in the hint field. Hints are for people who want their caches to be found. It would appear that you just want to taunt people. Third. If there's a reason for why your cache is where it is, say so on the cache page. If there's no real reason other than to receive an occasional email saying someone did or didn't find your cache, leave your cache description as it is. And finally. If I were to go to someplace I thought was cool, I would pass your cache up in a heartbeat because I want to see what is cool and not spend my valuable tourist time searching some lame rock pile. I like Bittsen. The Cache in question was not placed for The travelling masses but for Locals who know the area. The pile of Rocks is actually The Schumacher Lion's Club Mc Intyre Trail which does stradle an abandoned Mining Property and was intended to be part of a series of caches following the trail. I pick and choose those caches i wish to hunt and that is your choice also. Your cool can be different from our cool. As another poster noted and i admit to being guilty off was letting the curt tone of the review of the original cache get to me, communication is indeed a two way street. I did and still do not like the tone but should have let the reviewer know my concerns I have not had issue with other reviewers and I do understand that they may get frustrated with us NOOBs who cannot read and understand I'm glad im not perfect and i learn from my mistakes. I am Finding caches and I am hiding caches and generally having fun with the other cachers I have met.I will be a better cacher for these exchanges will you be any better for picking apart where i hide my caches and my clues and my descriptions and if my clues make no sense? I'm glad you have found a way to correct an error that in the future will help prevent confusion. As for your last question, it's not about being a better cacher but having a better caching experience. If we make suggestions in response to your questions and or statements about what we prefer, we are trying to make the game more enjoyable for ourselves and for others who enjoy the game the same way we do. Maybe it's not something you'd thought of before. If you choose to take those suggestions, then we have succeeded if we ever end up in you neck of the woods. If you don't, that's your choice and there's nothing wrong with it. That's why there's an "ignore" feature. This (bolded) would be an excellent beginning to a cache description. Again, just a suggestion.

Mainly because the guidelines don't say that a cache has to be hidden in an interesting place, or if it is that the cache owner is required to post a description of what is so interesting. Imagine if we had a "WOW" requirement for traditional caches. I remember what people would post about reviewers attitudes when we had virtual caches being turned down. You really think a reviewer note "Your cache doesn't saying anything interesting about the location. Write something interesting or I will archive this cache." wouldn't be hard to explain to someone. There is also no guideline about not hiding needle-in-the-haystack hides. A fake rock in a pile of rocks is perfectly legitimate cache. And while it might not be fun for many cachers there are some who like the challenge of such a search. SBA note: "This cache is a needle-in-the-haystack and needs to be archived." Certainly some guideline we do have are not easy to understand just from what is written in the guidelines. There have even been suggestions that for non-English speakers the guidelines might not be understandable at all (it appears it is not one of the pages that has been translated yet). The proximity guideline is particularly hard. Many people miss the rationale for it and believe they have found reason for exceptions for their cache. The fact that sometimes exceptions are granted makes it hard to explain sometimes why a request for an exception was turned down. Hiders stung by a mystery or a stage of a multi often feel they are being treated unfairly and will find examples of caches that are closer to another cache than theirs is. The OP now seems to understands the difference between disabling and archiving a cache. He or she is going to fix the problem with cache proximity. So now the people who like to make up new guidelines that don't exist attack the OP for for not meeting these non-existent guidelines A reviewer may see a cache that has no description or a hint that isn't helpful. The reviewer can ask about the lack of the description or suggest leaving the hint blank if the owner really doesn't want to give a hint. This doesn't mean that all of a sudden having a description or a meaningful hint is now a guideline. Correct, there is no guideline that says any of those things, and nobody has suggested as much. The request for the information on the history of the town was in response to the OP's post about his town's history. If it's that important, why not put it in the description. Nothing but suggestions and responses.

Well, reviewers are only human, you know. Except for the ones who are dogs. Many reviewers are dogs. Which would be a reason #5 for using form letters, I suppose. Which does bring a question to my mind. Why aren't any of the reviewers cats? Is it because they are to smart to do the job? Or is it that no one offers them tuna fish? Or is it because they would eat the hamsters? I think it's the litter box smell. Signal is allergic to kitty litter.

I've received personal responses. I just had to ask for a clarification or produce an explanation first.

This is an Historic mining town celebrating 100 years of gold finds in the area so what does not turn your crank may well for others living in this area .Rocky areas abound and are utilized by cachers here and i see you still are a premium member after asking why you should be one after your membership expired. as for making a stink it was not over the cache but over what i considered attitude But now that I have been enlightend by you Forum dwellers i now know that form letters are used .Holy anal retention Batman First off, rock hides in rock piles are unimaginative and otherwise lame. So I don't care why you are hiding the cache where you are if it's just going to be a lame rock in a rock pile. Second. If you aren't going to give a hint, don't put anything in the hint field. Hints are for people who want their caches to be found. It would appear that you just want to taunt people. Third. If there's a reason for why your cache is where it is, say so on the cache page. If there's no real reason other than to receive an occasional email saying someone did or didn't find your cache, leave your cache description as it is. And finally. If I were to go to someplace I thought was cool, I would pass your cache up in a heartbeat because I want to see what is cool and not spend my valuable tourist time searching some lame rock pile. I like Bittsen.