J the Goat
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I find myself in the unusual position of liason. Per an extended Twitter Direct Message conversation, here is your long awaited update, and I paraphrase: Nancy is on a long-planned cross-country train trip extended vacation. This train probably isn't as fast as the one Katniss, her boyfriend, a drunken Woody Harleson, and the lady with the freaky make-up were on, but I digress. She apologizes profusely for the delay, and mentioned something about sending out the packets. She has only her smartphone and an IPad on her person, and the Groundspeak forums are difficult. She will return home May 2nd, and will Git 'er done. Again, I paraphrase, she most definitely did not speak in terms of Larry The Cable Guy.
Good to hear she's alright at least. Larry the cacher chick maybe?
Thanks for the update Yuckster
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Initially, this post reminded me of the old pre-adolescent joke: What four-letter word ends with K and means "intercourse".
TALK
Why? What word were you thinking of?
Now it reminds me of this YouTube video:
Thanks for the laugh this morning
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AWESOME find, Coldgears! You da man!
How did you get Pinehurst to show up? That's a MAJOR accomplishment
MAJOR? i think you mean MAGOR!
Thank you for the bug report
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OP didn't need to start a new thread, but has in another forum:
http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=294412
Definitely move it. Twenty, thirty, or even a hundred feet.
While it is not 'serious damage', the area is definitely being affected by your cache, which is something to be avoided.
Posting a 'Co-ordinate Update' log should be sufficient...but if you like, a follow-up maintenance log explaining the situation wouldn't be a bad idea.
100 feet offtrail would be against the 40 foot guideline
Link please to the "40 foot guideline".
B.
I was curious about that one myself
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AWESOME find, Coldgears! You da man!
How did you get Pinehurst to show up? That's a MAJOR accomplishment
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I agree with the above posters, but here's a different look at it. If the etrex 10 is priced at 115, and the app is $10, that's a total of $125. You stated you're also looking at the Magellan priced at $150, it's less to buy both if you can't decide
It also depends on what kind of caching you plan on doing. The dedicated GPS unit will be a bit more accurate. If you plan on finding urban caches around town, your phone should work just fine to check things out. If you're more the type to spend a day on the trail, you may lose phone coverage, your GPS reception won't be as strong, and the battery life of the smart phones will tremendously limit your caching day.
If you do go with the etrex and decide a few months from now that it's not for you, they do have a decent resale value, so it's not a complete and total wash.
Good luck, and welcome!
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Got nuttin ta do wit geocaching atall.
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I want you to know how much I enjoyed reading this. I actually laughed a bit. Also, to make my post about geocaching: Matchsafes are like $6 at my wal-mart! Crazy!
99 cents here. You're getting S to the crewed
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Throw me into the camp that thinks the caches may still be there to dissuade people from trying to place caches on said land. It makes sense, but that's only from the outside. Best bet is asking said reviewers. Is there a reason you choose not to take that route? I get not going to the lilypad with this, and that's fine. I'm not clear on a reason to avoid asking the reviewers directly though.
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My husband, who does not cache by the way, keeps begging me to put one on our property -- just because he would LIKE to watch people look for it! I keep telling him NO... and my reasons are because while I DO believe that most cachers are good and honest people, there ARE "bad", destructive, not well intentioned cachers out there! If people will steal geocoins and travel bugs out of caches, they may likely steal other things too! We live in a VERY safe neighborhood... I don't want to be responsible for "tempting" someone.
If you're shaky on it, don't do it.
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If your point is to bring people to the park, why not bring them into the park and not to the edge of the parking lot where they don't have to enter the park? Hide a good cache IN the park, and viola! Problem(s) solved.
I'm still a newbie, but I was wondering if creating a "Multi-Cache" with the final location hidden would be a good way to get them to go through the park? Then I could have the ending place be where that one picture is?
The reason why is it's a nice park, but I think there's a reason no one else has placed a geocache yet. The City Park is muggleville and is mostly open grass playing fields, playgrounds, swing sets, and bowery picnic table areas. In my first any only geocache I've placed, I put a "regular size" in a different park and people in their comments said "Thanks for taking me to the park, the kids liked the playground". However, there were plenty of shrubs and evergreens to hide it, but in this park I'm thinking of it's a nice park but none of those dense shrubs.
I'm also trying to get rid of my magnetic switch plate I bought, and can't send it back, so I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. Maybe since you've been geocaching for a while you'd have some advice?
One of the main issues I have with MSP's is that they don't tend to bring me to interesting places. They're common in parking lots, on the sides of building in alleys, and on electrical equipment, and in all honesty, I don't care about those places. They aren't weather resistant (adding plastic baggies DOES NOT help), they're in high muggle areas 99/100 times (I don't do this to try to sneak around in public), and there's a lot of validity to the arguments about fake electrical equipment/covers.
There may be other reasons for this park being devoid of caches. Maybe the city has a no geocaching in the parks kind of policy. Maybe there's no good places to hide a cache there. I still say that a light post in the parking lot fits the description of no good places to hide a cache. There may be an anti-geocaching maintainence worker who keeps an eye out for caches in "his" park and throws them away as they show up.
It's unfortunate that you can't return the switchplate. Can you use it to hide your own house key? It's also unfortunate that they don't make quality geocache containers for a multitude of reasons. I would say that your best bet is to cut your losses on the "container", find a good quality spot to hide a cache, and put out a good container for people to enjoy. You'll enjoy it more that way and there won't be nearly the amount of problems as there will be with a standard substandard parking lot hide.
Good luck.
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If you rechecked the coordinates and they're still okay, and it looks like you changed the description, you should be getting people searching again assuming they haven't already. What type of GPS did you use to find the cache? If it's a smartphone of some sort, that may be where your problem lies.
One of the folks who logged a DNF said they were looking around a fence and some trees. Is this an accurate description of the cache location?
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You're also going to see a variance in what people see as quality swag. I dont' trade swag often unless I'm caching with my kids, but I recently found a cool little Ivory duck/bird thing that I just had to keep. Probably worth 2 or 3 bucks, but I'll trade way up for something like that.
I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for in this hobby. Better luck with the next one.
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Other -See the cache description for information.You hide sounds like an Other. This means that I am looking for something unique.
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This is fine as long as in the description you state that it's a micro that's well cammoed. Don't surprise those of us who like to move trackables or cache with children with a micro container. Identify it somewhere so I know one way or the other.
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I think I've discovered why the OP has zeroed in on the "3 year" lifespan for a cache.
The OP has gone to the effort of placing caches within the Medina County Parks and they require a permit for such activity. Those permits expire after 3 years, and you need to re-apply to place new caches.
If the OP had only mentioned this in the first place, then it would have been clear that this issue is somewhat regional.
Medina County Park page about geocaching:
http://www.medinacountyparks.com/Pages/GeocacheEvents.html
Permit application, which has very pretty specific rules for hiding geocaches/letterboxes:
pdf:
http://www.medinacountyparks.com/uploads/GeocacheRules.pdf
Finding this Park's incredibly strict rules has been enlightening for me.
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That does make some sense, and I'll take that as the tone of the OP. My counter to that then, is go find new locations. A quick peek at the map centered on the OP's latest hide shows a very large area of untapped space for new caches. Find new places for new, quality caches instead of recycling the old locations strictly for the purpose of recycling them. Nice catch though PP.
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These are two places in the City Park that I wanted to put my magnetic switch plate. I'm trying to think about which of these two places you'd think would be better, or if I should just try a different way to hide altogether? (and of course I'd paint the switch plate to match whichever place):
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I get the impression the place in the first picture would be easier to hide relative to the second, but since I got permission from the park superintendent, I'd be worried that some people may pull apart parts that they shouldn't while looking through trial and error and he'd blame me. (Also I didn't tell him I'd be using a fake electrical switch plate, because I didn't know at the time). I'd think the location in the second picture would be quite easy, but less likely to cause damage. The purpose of the cache would be to lure people from nearby cities to this park, who may not have been there before but go around trying to find caches they haven't found yet.
Do you think I should use one of these two places for the switch plate, or try hiding in the park a completely different way?
If your point is to bring people to the park, why not bring them into the park and not to the edge of the parking lot where they don't have to enter the park? Hide a good cache IN the park, and viola! Problem(s) solved.
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Found one under a USPS drop off box yesterday. A big no-no.
How so?
USPS boxes are private property of the USPS.
The penalty for tampering with a postal mail collection device is a fine of $20,000 and one year in FEDERAL prison. Attaching any unapproved device to the mailbox is tampering with the mailbox.
Unlikely that you would get the maximum penalty just for hiding a cache, but I don't want to be a test case.
BTW, the penalty extends to anyone who knows about the 'device' but didn't report it, and you just signed a logbook to prove you were there?
For some reason I read that as UPS and not USPS.
I believe that the key word in that law is tampering. Tampering is defined as "to render something harmful or dangerous by altering its structure or composition". Using that definition of tampering I don't see how attaching a cache to a USPS mailbox makes it harmful or dangerous.
I took a look at USC 18 USC 1705. Which is what I assume that you are referring to. I'll quote it here.
"Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any mail deposited therein, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
I don't see anything about attaching unproved devices being considered tampering. However I agree. I wouldn't want to be the test case.
I think it's this part right here.
Nevermind, I just actually read what I was responding to. Bleh.
That being said, I don't think the USPS would appreciate things being stuck to their mailboxes.
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Found one under a USPS drop off box yesterday. A big no-no.
How so?
USPS boxes are private property of the USPS.
The penalty for tampering with a postal mail collection device is a fine of $20,000 and one year in FEDERAL prison. Attaching any unapproved device to the mailbox is tampering with the mailbox.
Unlikely that you would get the maximum penalty just for hiding a cache, but I don't want to be a test case.
BTW, the penalty extends to anyone who knows about the 'device' but didn't report it, and you just signed a logbook to prove you were there?
For some reason I read that as UPS and not USPS.
I believe that the key word in that law is tampering. Tampering is defined as "to render something harmful or dangerous by altering its structure or composition". Using that definition of tampering I don't see how attaching a cache to a USPS mailbox makes it harmful or dangerous.
I took a look at USC 18 USC 1705. Which is what I assume that you are referring to. I'll quote it here.
"Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any mail deposited therein, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
I don't see anything about attaching unproved devices being considered tampering. However I agree. I wouldn't want to be the test case.
I think it's this part right here.
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Who cares who's first? It's all about the journey. It's not like you're discovering a new continent, or the cure for cancer. It's just Tupperware.
Did you have fun? Did you get some exercise? Did you die if someone else got there first?
Molehills.
You may not care about FTFs but many do, just their way of enjoying Geocaching the way they want to play it, Mellow Out
Seemed pretty mellow to me. Molehills...
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Will this be on your property? You're still inserting something into the ground for the purpose of your hide, and while some will say that's alright because you're not "digging" to place it, it's really not a good idea. If you do reside in the camp that says this type of hide is alright (and it's not a small population) then you have to answer the first question. Do you feel it appropriate to go around sitcking rebar into the ground on other people's property? Would you want it done on yours?
I like your creativity, but I'd implore you to use a different method to hide your caches. Good luck
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Mayhap this is referring to the trial app? That puts a limit on caches, but to my knowledge has nothing to do with one's membership level...
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25 feet isn't really that bad....
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I do this fairly regularly, keeping in mind that my 3 star terrain might be somebody elses 2 or 4 or whatever. I don't do it with any malice intended, as it seems you didn't either, it's just constructive suggestion/information. Around here, CO's will often change their ratings after the first few finders if the general consensus is that their ratings are a bit off to begin with.
Sounds like an overly sensitive CO who would be bothered by this to me...
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I get them same thing when I look for cities in California and find that Canada have similar city names. So when I see the map is not California I have to spell it out more like Calif.
Just how many Ontario's are there?
I know, I know...... it's the Ca or CA that works (poorly).
In the past, my searches for "cloverdale, ca" have turned up results in cloverdale canada. It's happened other times too, but that's the one I can think of offhand. That's a bit of a drive for the afternoon
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what is wrong with the picture ?
it looks like any other large cache out there ?
if something is worth any value to you, DONT put it into a cache,
people just dont care much about your game, not even fellow geocachers,
at least it looks like this a bit too often where I go and visit caches.
Maybe lost in translation. "We Give Our Piss" written in the cache container means they urinated in the cache container and are laughing about it. Pee. Waste.
careless cache finder
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Good for you. I like it