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well yes, in the end if Groundspeak will decide to make watch app then I'll have it, if not, then not.. I was hoping to have a better geocaching experience, but it's good activity already.. and maybe some day we'll have decent smart glasses, that would be really safer and nice

it's not really a problem not to look at a phone for few seconds while you're crossing the street, I've just wanted to point that it's recognized even by lows that using phone might be dangerous in some circumstances.. and in my opinion watch is at least a bit safer and in some cases a lot safer than smartphone..

of course I don't want to risk my expensive device, as I told before geocaching is specific activity, that could really benefit from watch app since in normal circumstances I wouldn't walk on rocky cliff with smartphone in my hand, but when geocaching I don't really have a choice.. You shouldn't drive and talk with your phone at a same time, but if you have to, if your work is to drive and talk to clients at a same time, you have a safer option of buying hands free set, but with geocaching there is no safer alternative.. and its not all about risk of braking device.. do I really have to give an example of every possible scenario? ok, lets say you're geocaching on that rocky cliff with smartphone in your hand and you slip, you're falling.. you'll probably by reflex going to try to safe not only your self, but your device to and by doing that your injuries may be bigger, but if you would have an extra free hand to grab on something, you may end up with lighter injury.. ok, ten-thousands.. how much do you think it costs? millions? billions of dollars? its just an app, not a space rocket, it shouldn't be unaffordable for descent company so far I've heard only one decent reason not to make watch app, its technical reason of apple watch not having magnetic compass, although it still would be nice to at least have watch app for reading hints, descriptions, logs... all other reasons is basically stating that Groundspeak is barely making a living and just can't afford such big luxury like creating simple app.. that makes me feel like I'm getting into lost cost, like windows phone users did..

without doubt that is true, but still I think watch is a bit safer alternative than smartphone, and I'm not just talking about crossing road, what if you're looking for a cache on a cliff, rocks over water.. it's easy to drop your expensive smartphone and broke it/merge to water.. with watch it's not that easy.. plus if you're carrying 1000$ iPhone in your hand some thief could just run by you and grab it from your hand and with watch it's a bit more difficult to do that..

I can understand the reason like kunarion stated: 'The Apple Watch has no magnetic compass', if it's technically impossible to create good app at this moment, then so be it.. but the reason that there are very few users and third-party sites solution sounds like excuses not to do something right, becouse Groundspeak are just to lazy and cheap.. compared to android there are very few iOS users, so why bother to create iPhone app? why bother to create app at all, with that logic lets go back to ancient times and use website only.. and help from third-party sites? jesus.. thousands and thousands geocachers all over the world pay around 30$ to Groundspeak every year, plus sales of TB's, logbooks and there are even ads in GC website.. Groundspeak should be making millions of dollars and they can't create apple watch app? how much that would cost? few thousands? it should be penies for such company.. in the end for this specific activity watch app would be really useful, in my country it's forbidden by low to cross street while using phone, so walking with your smartphone in hand and eyes on it is actually dangerous for your life! so thank you Groundspeak for not taking care of our safety

How much would I be willing to pay? I'm already paying around 30$/year for support of app and website, Groundspeak don't place caches all over the world, I do that with other geocachers, thay don't even review them, volunteers do that.. the only thing thay do is supporting geocaching platform and I would say 30$/year is quite a lot, so I would expect good and full service, that would include apple watch app to.. the most I would be willing to pay is buy the app for few bucks not pay for subscription constantly

so I ended up buying apple watch and cachly app for geocaching and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed.. cachly app on apple watch shows distance to cache but compass directions are horrible slow to update and its kinda walking in circles.. if its clear where cache is then watch is enough, but with a bit more difficult caches I end up getting my iPhone anyway.. since the main reason I bought apple watch was geocaching its kinda waste of 500+$.. maybe official geocache app could do better than cachly?

my opinion is that this is not a reward at all, it's just very controlled release of 4000 virtual caches.. you don't get rewards by random chance for meeting minimum criteria, if that would be the case medals in olympics games would be given away randomly to athletes who are good enough to enter olympics

Virtual Rewards 1.0 was given for 1% of the best cache owners.I respect that, you could argue about algorithms to select that 1%,but since I have caches that took me weeks to build, I would like to at least have a chance of some sort of reward that would say that my ammo box gadget caches are better than 99 PET containers hanged on branches around my caches..But now those virtuals are just given to anybody by random chance..The only reason why I respected Virtual caches is because it ment that this cache owner was rewarded as a top hider, but now then anybody will be able to hide virtuals this type of cache will be junk for me,since the point of this game is to find a physical container and virtual cache is literally NOTHING

I would also like to see apple watch app, I’m thinking to get apple watch ant the main reason for that is geocaching. walking in various terrain with 1000$ iPhone X is not very safe and it would be better user experience using a watch for this.. I don’t really want to switch to cachly app, but I’m afraid that I’ll have to..