Frodo_Underhill

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Sounds like you have one of these - Signal January 2006 Geocoin: You might be able to get some more information through this link: http://signalgeocoinstore.com/index.php?ma...;products_id=10

Who would be evil enough to sprinkle kippers about their cache listing???

Can some one lock this thread down? There is enough negative energy here to keep us busy for weeks to come. Thanks!

In reference to the OP (trackinthebox" .... Ah let the OP rant on some more - its very entertaining - though it is not adding anything constructive to geocaching. The way it looks to me, if the OP pushes a few more buttons, he too can join the ranks of "banned" member. Then he will no longer have to worry about his caches being fairly reviewed or not! Serious comment - the reviewers are volunteers - fellow cachers. They do a fine job of deaing with the ever increasing work load generated by new cache placements. Rather than trash them in the forum and accuse them of all sorts of scurilous offenses, the OP should be grateful for the integral role they play in this sport and the OP should not only apologize but at this point beg for forgiveness. As for me - this player is now on my ignore list - which is well within my rights and the rules, customs and practices of this site. Time for me to crawl back into my hobbit hole and contemplate some new legal cache placements off of NPS lands.

Similar designs from like minds. No harm done. Just frustrated that Nacaya got to the mint first. Que sera, sera. So if you like the design - buy some. Good luck with your coin's release.

Yeah putting it in a plastic case also makes it look really nice! Here is a good example of what you can do with a plastic case coin case and a washer plus add printed images of coin faces. Will give the look and feel of real coin better than the laminated piece of paper. Subsitute Geocoin I put out a laminated card that had an image on it for my NJ geocoin. It's cheesy but at least it is circulating, folks are collecting the icon and it has not showed up on eBay yet. Go to this link if you are interested in what the card looked like. Substitute Geocoin Card And after I released it I was informed about problems with "virtual" travel bugs. If you put one out like this you may want to use terms like "substitute", "stand-in" or "surrogate" to avoid having your coin shut down by GC.com.

NNJC had an awards presentation for best caches in North Jersey in May. The thread discussing that may be a good starting point for a list of good caches there. Nnjc Awards Event, Finally, it's time to see who won.. As for South Jersey a list will need to be compiled there but here are a few nominees that I would throw out" The Swamp Monster (GCKZV1) by The BiscuitMan - This take you out to some unique and challenging terrain in the Wharton State forest. For a real challenge go during a wet season and remember it is in the swamp. House Numbers (GCE5DA) by Steves Family - This multi cache will take you all over Salem county on a hunt to find old brick houses with patterns in the brick which will lead you to the next one. The houses date from the 1700's and are a treasure - though respect property rights as some of them are still private and occupied - you can see what you need to see from the road. Choreographed Chaos (GCNME9) by Dirty_Bird & BigNastyBrain This is the Mother of All Puzzle Caches for South Jersey. It will take you all over the Wharton State Forest in your quest for the final cache. Be prepared to invest some quality time to find this cache. Best done as a team effort. Lonely Twin Pines (GC43E) by RAT Team 6 Like the Swamp Monster, this is best appreciated in a wet season. As for your nominees Nik, The gerbiL cachE is a must pilgrimage to pay hommage to the first NJ cache, Secaucus Panorama - its a big, BIG rock! and Prototype A would be on my South Jersey list if you had not already nominated it on yours.

Good luck Nik, You may need to get someone to place a puzzle cache or two in Cape May and Ocean counties to pull this off. I don't see any puzzles in those counties. As for me - still having fun trying to make heads or tails out of this. Trying to pull together an intinerary to maximize photo ops and scenery. Looking forward to an expedition up North soon. Frodo

Ekitt10 scored his 1,000th find at the oldest cache in NJ, GCC8 - gerbiL cacHe. Since neither of us are that big into numbers we did not notice this fact at the time. The celebration consisted of a lunch of some granola bars and bottled water plus soaking up the views. Here is the master cacher himself logging the elusive "gerbiL cacHe". So congrats on # 1,000 Nik! Onward to 1,597!! And by the way - this cache is well worth the walk up the mountain as there are great views and other caches that can be found along the way. (PS. MH - yes I did break my resolution to never post on the big green board again but this definately was a very worthy cause.)

I am unaware of any booby trapped or dangerous caches in Wharton. There has been activity in Wharton off and on since colonial days and there are still some patches of private land there. You do need to be careful around ruins and old bridges that are falling down or have been torn down. There you can find lumber and nails and stuff. Just keep your eyes open out there. Personally I would worry more about briars, poison ivy, snakes, spiders, hunters, getting stuck in the sand or a puddle etc. than I would about booby trapped stuff. However if you run up on anything that looks like a still or other illicit activity, I would leave the area. Wharton is a great place to explore and cache in - come on down.

Its not only an urban problem - they disappear in the state forest from time to time. We can all help to protect cache integrety by being stealthy in urban areas and being sure that the cache is not left in plain site it all cases. One of the problems in the forest is the natural cover for the cache is sometimes disturbed by the elements. Recovering after you find a cache in that condition is a customary courtesy that cachers usually extend to each other.

Oh one other minor detail while you go out and earn your stripes. Never ever preface a highway number with "the" as in "the 195". That is a definate west coast giveaway. Learn your exit numbers (generally in reference to the Turnpike and the Parkway) Everyone will know what you are talking about. I used to live by Exit 120 - and I don't even have to say which road! Good caches up there from what I can tell on the board. Keep on caching dude - we'll make you a member of the club yet! (Not that you aren't already )

Piney usually refers to the folks who lived in the Pine Barrens. Look up the Pinelands Preserve for the rough area. The term was usually applied to these folks by outsiders in a rather politically incorrect and derogatory manner. These days the SJ cachers use it as a term to apply to a style of hiding caches which takes advantage of the natural features and cover down this way. If you call most of us a Piney we won't get upset but descendants of the original settlers of the Pine Barrens might give you a piece of their mind. So be sure you know the folks well before you call them a Piney. Another interesting term is a Shoebie - but I will let someone else explain that one! And you haven't done all the caches down here until you get out you kayak, hummer, skyhook, magnifying glasses and other Difficulty 5 apparatus! Cache on!

Looks like Tuscon Thompsen has been busy over the holiday. He scored his 3000th cache at GCPD5N - Code Yellow down in the Wharton State Forest. It's a puzzle cache - what do you expect for the Master. TT, thanks for visiting Southern New Jersey for this milestone. May you find many many more caches in your travels. Just be careful on those sand roads. For everyone else, check out TT's log and photos! Interesting Log And TT - as for your blue card ... if its misplaced, drop me a line - it will be taken care of.

Amen. Peace on earth and goodwill to all.

Correct - Chaos is not my cache. However a similar foul occured on one of my caches and since there was a developing pattern of repeated fouls I felt compelled to speak out. I would suggest we all let this issue rest. There are enough hard feelings to go around on both sides of this issue. When the dust settles I would suggest we all think about local cache etiquette customs and global cache ethics as they apply to puzzle caches.

TT, Cowspots had cleared logging the cache with the owners in advance as an exceptional circumstance since he was working with a local team. However the owners were displeased when you tagged along and logged in. Insult was added to injury when Flagman logged in this weekend. Someone is sharing the stage ID's and the passwords in the background. This is puzzle cache spoiler information being shared without the owners knowlege or permission which down in South Jersey is considered to be a serious breach of caching etiquette. I think there would be no argument now if you and Flagman had logged notes. And I think it is admirable that you are going back to do the field stages as they are the in my opinion a vital part of the cache. And if you really felt guilty about how you found Chaos, it would go a long way to foster good realtions in this part of the state if you and Flagman changed your logs to notes. Otherwise you will force the cache owner to take the role of the cache police - which they don't want to do. (There is long and ugly history of that in the early days of South Jersey caching which none of us want to see getting started again but your logs are putting pressure on the cache owners to do just that.) So we have reasons to taking exceptions to your log of this cache. I know the owners share my opinon as I ran into them caching yesterday and we had a lengthy discussion on the topic.

Frodo's Two Cents Worth: Logging Choreographed Chaos without doing any of the field challenges is only doing half of the cache. If you do that cache properly you get to see a lot of spectacular portions of the Wharton Forest. It is a shame that you missed that experience. Couldn't agree more, but what can I do? I envy all you folks in New Jersey that have the opportunity to do all the field challenges. I'd be right there pulling my weight if only I lived close enough. After all, I did fly 3000 miles just to do FEAR. Maybe Frodo will pay my airfare back to New Jersey for a few more weekends in Wharton? What you can do is log a note on Choreographed Chaos rather than a find since you did not complete the field work. And as everyone knows Choreographed Chaos is not a one day event. It takes an investment of time and mental and physical to solve this cache. In lieu of me providing you airfair for you to come back to do the field challenges why not provide us the same level of intellegence that you and Tuscon Thompsen had on Choreographed Chaos for Fear so that we can avoid all the field work and go directly to the final stage. This would level the playing field. However that would be grossly unfair to SplinginDan and all the effort he put in placing Fear. To us its an issue of you having an unfair advantage over the local cachers and then bragging about scoring a 5/5 cache on this and the San Diego thread. Sorry for dumping on you Flagman but you are getting a lot of pent up frustration ever since Tuscon Thompsen logged Choreographed Choas in the same manner. He is in the same boat as far as all of us are concerned.

Frodo's Two Cents Worth: Logging Choreographed Chaos without doing any of the field challenges is only doing half of the cache. If you do that cache properly you get to see a lot of spectacular portions of the Wharton Forest. It is a shame that you missed that experience.

Work on all the nasty puzzle caches in your area. Solve a bunch and then you will have lots of caches to find when you are back on your feet. Get well soon!

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Wow factor is good for Warmarks. Much better than the ho-hum. Determining what has wow factor and what does not is the trick. Frodo's 2 cents worth.

Perhaps someone could pull a list together if we knew the range of the travel bug ID numbers assuming they were assigned sequentially and not random. You could scan through and note which have been activated and which have not. That's a bunch of work. I wonder if there is some way to querry the GC data base??