HunterandSamuel

Well said. This is a learning experience for sure.

Here are the guidelines I read in the past. If it's in there, then I didn't see it. https://www.geocaching.com/play/guidelines

Different opinions I guess. I will still continue to let the owner know that I replaced the log because it was wet. Also write it in my found log that log is wet. I have seen this over and over in logs without a NM. Maybe geocaching is different in other cities/States.

Not to sound rude or snarky but try having a bit more patience for people who asked on a public forum if it was wrong and after being told it was discouraged and a link given, pledged not to do it again. Also, I did read the guidelines when joining and no where is "throwdown" mentioned. Unless I've missed it somehow. You tell me. I'll find the link.

That's why we let the cache owners know what we did. Now it's up to them to figure out why the log was wet. I've never done a NM. I prefer messaging the owner instead, give them a chance to fix the problem. We had a capsule log replaced by a geocacher not too long ago because it was wet. We were very thankful for her sweet post and not doing a NM. Checked it out the very next day, it needed a rubber seal. Went to the hardware store to buy one and replaced it that same day. The new log was still dry so we left it there. We're blessed to have supportive and helpful geocachers in our surrounding towns and cities.

Depending on the reason why they did it. And when being informed it was discouraged in the guidelines, never doing it again. By the way, "throwdowns" are not in the guidelines I read. It's the first time I've hear of it. But I do appreciate the link Cerberus1 gave me. My new geocache promise: "On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to Geocaching and my geocache community and to obey the Geocaching.com guidelines; To help other cachers at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake to solve those puzzles."

Good idea! Thanks.

I see it in a different light. I doubt very much the past will reflect badly nor encourage owners to abandon caches. Maybe it's a community thing.

Another cache hide we nurtured back to health was in a state forest. It was badly water logged, moldy, and had many complaints and a NM. Obviously the owner was no where to be found and after a plead from a cacher to keep it going...we decided to replace the damaged cache with a new one. I think that geocaching is also about helping others and keeping old caches alive, especially in unique places.

I have a cute story. A new geocacher with only 5 finds found our light fixture magnetic nano cache but didn't realize it was a geocache. She said she found some small medal thing. lol We told her it was the cache that she found and gave her permission to log it as a found, which she did. I like helping out others, it's what's geocaching is about too.

Thanks. I just checked it on the app map. There has been 14 founds since I replaced it so logging a NM is a bit too late. Lesson learn.

PS. Now I feel like I commited a crime. :-( What first drew me to geocaching is the "honor system".

Thanks for the throwdown link. Who knew??? Will do a NM next time. Several seasoned cachers in our area did this on missing or damaged caches so we thought it was a common thing to do, helping out other geocachers. They carry geobags full of extra supplies in their car.

Here's something that I did. Please let me know if it's okay to do. There was a P&G in a high muggle area with a long line of DNFs logs. We searched for awhile, it sure seemed to be missing so we replaced it to keep it going after the CO didn't respond. I then logged it as found.

We make sure to make all our caches winter friendly (except for the guard rail & light poles where snow is plowed over them). After each snow fall we venture out and uncover the cache hides. Our snowprints make a geopath to the caches. The neat thing about the bike trail is the town plows it to keep it open throughout the winter. We walk on it daily for exercise and to maintain the caches. Geocaching has become a healthy activity for my husband and me in our retirement!

I replied to this but it didn't show up. I think I forgot to hit submit. I love your caches! Especially the spider. To reach in and feel around is eek exciting! The train with it's chimney being the capsule cache is so neat! We also have a spider hotel guard rail cache. Inside the lid is a real looking spider hanging on clear fishing wire. It moves when you open the cache (a camo lock n lock). Scares even me when adding more swag and TBs!

This is so original!!!!! Is it a library where cachers can also donate books? Is that what LFL stands for?

Yes! Cachers have to reach in deep to feel around for the cache & log! That's the neat thing about this cache...the black beads look innocent enough until you reach in. They feel squishy and wet! Totally unexpected! Plus it's also filled with scary insects that you can feel with your fingers. LOL

The cool thing is a post hole was already there behind the post it was for (on a bike path). We just inserted the cache into it. It does get dirty after a rainfall but we keep it maintained and clean and brush off the grass hair, fluff it up.

Same university. We loved walking the campus. GC6P5EB_lysistrata-msu-2

This was an amazing experience! Found at an university. Many stairs to climb to the top! GC4JGVJ_a-cache-a-cache-my-kingdom-for-a-cache-msu-1

This is another fun cache of ours that got favorites. We call it "grass head" as a joke. It's a large plastic vitamin bottle camouflage with camo duct tape and fake grass hot gun glued to the top of the lid. We also cut out a round piece of rubber to fit inside the lid to seal and keep out moisture because it was hidden in the dirt with only the grass lid showing. Large enough for swag, log, and pencil. We first placed another larger vitamin bottle (after cutting off the top) in the dirt and then placed grass head in that to help keep it clean. Worked great!

A really cool dirt bike path in the forest that led to a geocache! GC6N836_hike-through-the-state-lands

We discovered a rustic walking bridge hidden in a forest that led to a geocache! Beautiful! GC82CQK