CasheKicker
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Well when it comes to stats you can make them reflect pretty much anything you want depending how you formulate them.
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I believe that Groundspeak should offer a rewiewer which speaks 100% French( not the googlois!) and which knows Quebec well!
This would avoid much problem of communication between the reviewer and the geocacher of Quebec!
Perhaps you should contact GC.com and volunteer your services.
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If forgin countries all over the world. Including France can geocache whats stopping PQ?
Here is an example of one in France that references Canada.
Un petit coin de Canada ~ GCQEAA
Google Language tools will do a pretty good jod of letting you read any language. Not a good excuse not to cache.
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The MGA site admin has stated that a name change wold be in order if there was enough intrest shown from the Rock. Arms wide open to receive you bye's. Just take the link up and voice your interest.
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I would support MGA becoming AGA. Maritime to Atlantic.
Something that could be brought up at our Next MGA-AGM (Maritime Geocaching Association - Annual General Meeting) on Sept.17, 2005.
Perhaps it is something, no not perhaps, I will go back to MGA right now and Start the thread.
Well I may have just made some waves but I posted the thread.
You can view it RIGHT HERE and we will see how it goes.
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I don't think that the issue is whether we have enough approvers to do the job, but that we have enough approvers that are familiar with the region, Canadian jurisdiction, and that are close enough to do the job should caches be placed in areas that might appear to be questionable (whether they are or not).
I do not see how it really makes any difference. The only way such an idea would work as described would be to have an approver in every county in every province. It is no more likely that an approver in Ontario could be familiar with Nova Scotia territory than an approver in Maine. Who to say an approver in Toronto has ever been to or is familiar with Thunder Bay even. The approvers have rules they must follow to allow a cache to be approved. Only the local communities can report back to an approver if such an cache is not appropriate for an area. Should it be unacceptable the approver can then take appropriate action.
The rules already in place prevent MOST caches that are unacceptable from being approved. The rest is up to us to report what we find to be wrong with a cache.
In any case the approvers we have are doing a bang up job no matter where they are from. I recently read a cache in N.B. that was approved by an approver from Europe. I see no problem with that what so ever.
When the number of caches in Canada dictates that we need more approvers I am sure we will get more. In the mean time my hat is off to all of them. Foreign and domestic.
Bravo Zulu
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WHen it come right down to it sure it would be nice for a MORE reviewers. Don't really matter where they are from. As long as the cache is approved or not in accordance with the "rules and regulations" that Groundspeak has in place. It is a shame that some ignorant fool would even think of placing such a cache as to be unfavorable. Hoeever we all have different tastes and the approvers can not nor should not discriminate because they don't like it. The rules guide them. We are the police of our sport. If is in in bad taste, poor repair, unsafe, or just unmaintained it is our job to report such things so action can then be taken.
I applaud the approvers for doing their job and taking appropiate action when called upon.
TGHe only reason we need more approvers it to lighten the load of some very heavy and abused sholders.
I have said my piece. Goodbye.
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Well I do not know where to start.
1st I should start that I do not usually get involved with such subjects but this one did get me fired up. NOT so much on the original topic but more so with some of the comments.
Nest I will give my 2 cents worth on the Cache itself. To put it simple in my opinion (and it is just that "MY opinion, and we all have one) The cache is wrong at this time. There may be a time in about 1000 yrs where we can call this a place to remember and learn from but until the dust settles let these people rest in peace and give the familys a chance for closure.
Now on the MY real issues with some of the coments.
- "take at the very least 20 minutes for the average healthy cacher to complete"
Well not every one is able bodied and a average healthy cacher. It is narrow minds like yours that restrict so many individuals from being able to participate in the sport. Perhaps you should take a look at this website and read some of the reviews and ideas contained there. Handicaching
I myself am not handicapped but try to place cachers for all different levels of cachers. Some very difficult and others that are accesable to those in a wheel chair. Your comments are just unacceptable.
Next comment:
"I agree that the cache was handled appropriately after the fact and we don't need more rules".Bang on the mark. We do not need more rules. However, the approvers are bound by these rules. If you are having a hard time getting a cache approved it is because you are trying to push the envelope. (usually) Also remember that this sport is orginated in the states and they make most of the rules based on dangerous or stupid actions of others.
"I think there are w-a-a-a-y too many caches out there now. I think they should tighten up on them and not approve new ones"
Hmm you again.. Well that is subjective on where you live. Perhaps where in the 50km or so around your home is over populated (in your opinion) however, there are many areas outside of Ontario that have yet to even come close to having Way to many caches.
"Canada was well covered, but of late Cache-Agent came on the scene as a part-time approver and about that same time Cache-Advance seemed to take a break. Cache-Agent didn't seem to do anything much as the season had been slowing down and Cache-Tech was able to handle it all.That brings us to now.... Cache-Tech is doing all the approving as far as I know, and Cache-Agent seems to have disappeared, and Cache-Advance is on holiday."
Well I can not agree with all of this:
Cache agent is very active and very busy and has taken over the Maritimes along with some spillage of Cache-Techs area of responsibility. Seems to be Quebec and westward to points I am unaware.
I also agree that it would be great is every province and territory cold have its own approver. Hey why not volunteer. Not sure how it works but ask an approver near you.
Well I have already said to much and should be shot for my comments so I shold go.
But before I do I must say once more that not all cachers are healthy, able bodied individuals that can hike into parts unknown for at laest 20min to find a cache. Do not have such a narrow mind Coupar-Angus.
I also appologise to the orginal poster for strying off subject.
You are right we need more approvers!!!!!
PS. I am able bodied and still hold this opinion.
Well my quotes did not work as they should. GUess I do not know what I am doing. How you all can figure it out.
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Makes me sick just thinking about someone out there trying to take advantage of people and make a buck.
What is supposed to be a very affordable sport. Apart from gas prices that is.
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Well now that was interesting.
That last one prompted me to do another Stat table.
I started wondering how many caches are in Canada for every square KM of territory.
Land Area Of Canada according to Stats Canada = 9,093,507 square KM
Giving us 1.3544 Caches per 1000 sqkm
Prov-----Land Area------Caches-----Caches/1000 sqkm
NF----------373,872----------461-----------1.2330
PE-------------5660------------54-----------9.5406
NS-----------53,338----------803----------15.0549
NB-----------71,450---------1723---------24.1148
PQ-------1,365,128---------1237-----------0.9061
ON---------917,741---------3403-----------3.7080
MB---------553,556-----------282----------0.5094
SK---------591,670-----------195----------0.3296
AB---------642,317----------1322----------2.0582
BC---------925,186----------2760----------2.9832
YK----------474,391------------43----------0.0906
NT--------1,183,085------------26----------0.0220
NV--------1,936,113-------------7----------0.0036
So once again the tale of the tape shuffles the rankings and places NB as Champion
Rank.....Prov.....Density/1000sqkm
1............NB.............24.1148
2............NS.............15.0549
3............PE...............9.5406
4............ON..............3.7080
5............BC..............2.9832
6............AB...............2.0582
7............NF...............1.2330
8............PQ...............0.9061
9............YK...............0.9606
10..........MB...............0.5094
11..........SK...............0.3296
12..........NT................0.0220
13..........NV................0.0036
All 3 Maritime provinces have the highest density of caches based on Land area.
Again a big congrats to N.B. by far the winner of this catagory. Yes it helps by being so small but so is the population. Fact remains it is still holds the highest density of caches.
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Now that all looks good for the larger provinces. However, lets take a look at the same stats from a different angle:
One thing that bothers me is it does not take into consideration the Cache density based on provincial population. Therefore I decided to work out the numbers based on that factor.
Using the most current posted census stats from 2001 I made this table
Cache Stats for Canada Based on Poulation according to 2001 Census
Population of Canada 2001 = 30,007,090
PROV-----POP.-----CACHES-----#PER/CACHE-----Provincial Score
..............(X).............(Y)..........................................................
NF-----512,930-------461-----------1,112.65-------------219
PE-----135,290--------54------------2,505.37------------ 97
NS-----908,005------803------------1,130.77-------------215
NB-----729,500-----1723--------------423.39-------------575
PQ---7,237,480-----1237------------5,850.83------------- 42
ON-11,410,045-----3403------------3,352.94-------------- 73
MB---1,119,585------282------------3,970.16-------------- 61
SK-----978,935------195------------5,020.18-------------- 49
AB---2,974,810-----1322-----------2,250.23---------------108
BC---3,907,735-----2760-----------1,415.85---------------172
YK-------28,675--------43-------------666.86---------------365
NT-------37,360--------26-----------1,436.92---------------170
NV-------26,745---------7------------3,820.71-------------- 64
.....................................................(Z)..............................
Totals...30,007,095...12316..........2,436.43
In order to make the provincial score a number that makes sence I had to make up a formula that would make the score easier to read. Otherwise there would just be to many decimal places.
For Example
Based on the above information there are 2436.43 people for every cache placed in Canada.
X=Provincial Population
Y=# Caches in Province
z= #of Caches per person in Canada
Formula Y/X*(Z*100)=SCORE
IE. For NF
461 Caches divided by population of 512,930 = .00089876
2436.43 multiplied by 100 = 243643
.00089876
X 243643
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218.976292
Rounded off gives a score of 219
So to put it all into perspective if we wanted to rank the provinces based on Cache density by provincial poulation it would be as follows
Rank.....Prov.....Score
1............NB........575
2............YK........365
3............NF........219
4............NS........215
5............BC........172
6............NT........170
7............AB........108
8............PE...........97
9............ON..........73
10..........NV...........64
11..........MB...........61
12..........SK...........49
13..........PQ...........42
Hmmm now that sheads a different light on things now dont it.
Big congrats goes out to New Brunswick for having the most caches per capita in Canada.!!!!
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The following are the current Cache Standings for Canada. Thanks to Funky Nassau of MGA for putting these Numbers together:
Here are the current Standings:
ON - 3403
BC - 2760
NB - 1723
AB - 1322
PQ - 1237
NS - 803
NF - 461
MB - 282
SK - 195
PE - 54
YK - 43
NT - 26
NV - 7
Standings effective Aug. 17/05
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This whole idea of charging people to cache is crap.
I am surprized that Groundspeak has not jumped this idiot with a layer. It puts a very bad impression as an expensive sport to newcomers and may discourage new players.
Someone needs to sort this out. I am glad I do not live near there. Do they actually call it geocaching or are they going under a different name?
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AS you are looking for a ,ap in the Alliston area you may wan't to try contacting CFB Borden reference library. You never know what they may have tucked into the corners.
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I have done all my business so far with GPS Central. The service was incredible. I made an Typo in my order and the called me an hour later to confrim what it was I wanted. I live in N.S. and I was shocked when I was only using their Xpress post for $12.00 and it was there in 36hrs.
I have nothing but good things to say about this company. I am getting ready to make an order this week for some assy. and was considering trying GPS City but after reading this thread I think I will stick to GPS Central.
KEEP IT IN CANADA.
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Well I hope I am not stepping on any toes but this just popped up in our fourm and I see no one has added us yet.
So without further delay let me introduce you to
MGA (The Maritime Geocaching Association)
Our group covers all of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island
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I hope to see you there. Plan it and we shall come.
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Well admittedly this initial news is very disappointing. As usual the Government officials have panicked at something new that they do not understand..
What we as the GeoCaching community must do now is take a deep breath. I am sure that many reading this post so far are now upset with these recent developments. Even more so when the parks start to remove the caches.
The best thing we can all do is co-operate and advocate. As much as it hurts bombarding the offices of Parks Canada with angry complaints and compliance refusal will do nothing but hurt us in the long run. Each GeoCaching organization will need diplomatic representatives to speak and meet with the offices in their region to try and work out an agreement and educate the ignorant on what GeoCaching is all about. Let them see it from our eyes as a tool that can improve the environment and help to protect it by educating our youth through involvement, CITO and bringing people into the parks.
At the same time many of us need to re-educate ourselves on how to be a part of the environment without damaging it. I am sure we have all seen in our travels the effects of those whom do not respect the environment around a cache. Using terms and practices like "BUSHWACKING" does not sound, nor is it, environmentally friendly. Crashing thru the bush stepping on protected plants, ecosystem, moving rocks, climbing around old buildings, leaving the trails. All of this I am sure is what is freaking Parks Canada out.
So in the meantime let’s sit back, reload, plan, learn, educate and win our parks back through co-operation. They are OUR parks and we must protect them. For everyone forever.
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This reminded me of a story I once heard about farmers spraypainting the words "HORSE" or "COW" on the sides of their animals so they didn't get shot in deer hunting season. I googled for it, and it turns out to be an urban legend.
Not a legend. in some areas of N.B. farmers actually put orange vests on their cows and horses for protection.
unless it was a great dane a dog is significantly smaller than anything you could hunt.Sory I can not agree. many dogs can appear to be wolf, fox or coyote. All of which may be hunted in various areas.
I am not pro or con hunting but all should be aware. Hunters orange should always be worn by both people and pets if walking in a woodland area. Depending on the zone or province you are in you may be at risk only a couple hundred meters from a poulated area.
WEAR BLAZE ORANGE. it is for your own saftety.
I am not trying to support what happened in this case. It was certainly a horrible thing to happen. Just the risk is there so dress for it this time of year.
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I've definitely read in logs of people using machetes to get through undergrowth. And I assume some people who refer to bushwhacking are using machetes.
The tearm bushwhacking has nothing to do with cutting, or machetes. This term means that when a trail ends, or a cache is off the beaten path, often a cacher must decide to make a bee-line through the "bush" often "whacking" their shins, head, face and other body areas off of limbs, stumps, rocks and so on. The practice of "bush-whacking" should only be used when all other avenues to reach a cache has been exhausted. After all most caches are placed just a few meters (yards) of the beaten path.
Trans-canada Highway Caches
in Canada
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OK now with all these acronym changes myhead hurts.
I feel dizzy.