We have in our area,people who want to do it all as far as cache hides and take up good and quality areas that others would enjoy placing a nice ,well desgned and placed cache. But others take the lose,and risk abject boredom for this . The benifit for these people is undoughtably the numbers game amoungst their few friends. It is my belief that if numbers are needed for caches in their personal areas, then these people should offer their help with the production and assist in the placement with others after a certain number of caches are placed by these over achievers. There for , not only bringing the quality of the caches up to a higher degree,but the maintenance will be spread amoungst a greater number of people, which would give a longer life to a well designed cache. There should, in my way of thinking , be a reward of a symbol placed or a number given for the people that lend assistance to others,old and new members, so that not only does our cache base become stronger, but our people base becomes stronger as well. This is where the numbers belong. I don,t think we need more rules to make our caching experience memorable. Just a better understanding of where our strengths lay.