welch

I like the idea of a daily or weekly digest. Though that would be more complex than the current 'copy and send' setup since it would need to be complied, filtered, etc.... And then it still may not have the content one wants to read

No and no. Micros are a size, not a type. If any new types get created, I would hope it is to clear up the jumbled catchall mystery/puzzle type. Someone suggested spliting beween 'work out at home' and 'work out on site', sounds good to me. There would be some that fit in both or neither, but would be a good step toward making everything sortable by PQ.

First, you need to remember that the adventure you had finding a cache, the fun you had at an event, etc, is still there if you have a log or not. If you want to have the most control over your logs and pictures, you need to start your own personal blog or something. I don't think legit logs get deleted all that much, but cleary you would be upset if it happen just once. As for your questions: It used to be that when a log was deleted you would get an email message from the site telling you a log had been deleted and giving you a link back to the log. you would still be able to follow the link and see the log, but it would not show on the cache page etc. However its been a while since I've had any sort of log deleted, so i can't verify it still works this way. No idea if the pictures are still on the log after deleted. I can't really control what your do own blog, so why are you asking my approval?? Personally I would think a url would a really poor log by itself, epecially since it would be automatically changed to just say "(LINK)"

Can you try looking back threw the logbook, or online logs and see who left it? Maybe they can tell you were it came from.

I would say no. If your not familiar the cache owner you could tick them off. Better to ask before replacing big parts, like the container. If the owner is completely gone, then fixing the container is nice gesture, but is only half of the problem .

no and no Don't have a gps that can play, and not really interested in getting a new one just for doing so. Currently there is one Wherigo at 100mi, and 5 more at about 200 miles .

Looks I'll be sending you two enteries. Would like to think I will get them complete and mailed tommorrow, but not sure that will work out (having trouble getting activation code for one of them... ) If I don't get them off tommorrow it will probably be like the 15th before I can mail them.

What you say makes sense to me, but then caches whose owners have stopped visiting the site, sometimes for years do not have their listings archived automatically. It seems like the physical cache needs to be damaged without any action on the caches owner to that to happen. To me it seems like the same issue, that there is noone looking after the online side of the cache.

It seems more like the first poster didn't find the cache, and post a note or DNF about why, and the cache owner deleted it. (at least that's what I think happened)

Really!! You've seen a cache a mere 1/16th of inch tall and 1/32ndth of inch across?? He was saying 1/40th the size, not 1/40th the height. And to add my opinion to the thread, I don't want an additional category for nano containers. I think the term that applies here is much closer to volume - not size. Although 1/40th volume is still stretching things a bit. and of course is the normal blinkie, or those double tall ones ....

Is it possiable to graph the different groups trends over a longer period? say 50 or even 100 years? Of the (very limited) number of benchmark pages I've looked it at it seemd many were sought out in the early 1930s, mid 1960s, and then again around 1995. Perhaps the decline is part an repeating cycle

For years geocachers have been trying to beg burrow, buy, cry, and complain Groundspeak into making it easier to get larger amounts of cache data quicker. Lots of different ways, larger PQ size, premade whole state or city PQ, fee bases PQs, etc, but it was always a big old "NO, we don't encourage offline databases, the data would get outdated". Yet now exactly that type of thing is being marketed Beyound that, I personally wonder if this thing will encourage people to do stupid things like let their kids go geocaching alone.... if your kids are responsible enough they don't need your supervision, then I'd say buy them a regular low end unit (or your 'back unit). Of course I'm probably not the target market this is trying to reach so what I think doesn't really matter.

double post.

I don't know about heat caving, but I have seen some small dents on the flat/negative side from the nub on the postive side of the cell behind slamming forward... I have an old gps that used four AA, two in each 'stack'.

Very nice! Now we need to extrapolate the curve and use it to predict the death of geocaching as we know it - when the # of geocachers exceed the number of people on Earth so we'd need to know when a lot of people are going to die real quick? edit: oh and its 22008

This should not be so. Is this not a indictment to the general lack of character of the human race? I for one hate to think like that. There has to be an answer to cache degradation - no? I am going to try to put swag in individual baggies with the geocaching trade = or + or no trade sticker on each baggie and watch what happens. I take young kids with me caching and it is neat to see their faces light up at a good stocked ammo box. They all grab fast and I say - wait what ya got as good or better than that and they find something in my bag of swag to swap. It can be done. We cannot blame kids in the neighborhood it is "us" - no? You ever play the game 'telephone'? Can you imagine what it would be like with 10,000+ people in the loop

Make it impossible to find and it will never degrade Seriously, I would say make it the best overall geocache you can. Nice container, quality container, pick out a spot you want people to see. A leaky gladware container that looks like it was filled by cleaning out the kitchen 'junk' drawer is not impressive. The easy to get to spot may also be easy to reach for the local kids to come and help themselves to some trinkets

How would you deal with people that change accounts? Like those that start out caching as a team or family, then later decide to create their own solo accounts.

There is a 'found it' log, and a 'did not find it' log. There is currently not a 'looked for but didn't find' log.

I think the newest variation is for the coin owner to have a sign up sheet so people can put down their email address and and be sent a list of the codes later. Easier to copy and paste that way?

People have differing views of whats good and whats bad, first you'd have them all to agree on what's what. Then you'd have to try and nicely tell someone 'you cache isn't very good, please archive it and start over' But if you can get past those things, then yea it would work.

Personally I would say wooden nickels/poker chips. But I'm biased in that those are the things that fit in my collection album best . Have seen pens, golf pencils, pathtags, hand made jewerly / bead keychain items, stenciled carabiners. And of course there are things that aren't 'branded' you just know this person always leaves a tiny ghost eraser, this one used to leave a tiny keychain harmonica, that one was leaving some kinda polished rock purple amerhest? i think it was.

Flashlight Of The Sun (FOTS) Fishpounder (cacher from Ames?) has this little flashlight, maybe 4" thats about as bring as a big D cell maglight with new batts. He calls it the flashlight of the sun, I thought that was a the branded name or something, but its not coming up on google...

Its your signature item put whatever you want on it

I haven't put too many caches out, but about half have been archived. These were put in what I thought were good/fun locations but knew they would eventually be muggled within a year. People had some fun with them, which is what is important and rather than replace them I have/will put out caches at new locations which will give the locals some new caches to find. Personally, I view all caches as being disposable, although I am sentimental about keeping my first active. I could be wrong, but I think Harry Dolphin's point was that for some people it seems like the plan for maintaining the cache was to not do any. The cache is planned out with the cheapest no worries if it gets lost materials, and when it gets reported missing they archive it without it really getting check out by the owner and/or people that have in the past actually found the cache. While its never possiable to be 100% certain there isn't a lost cache (or parts of a damaged one) left out there, the lack of attempting to track down our toys doesn't seem to mesh well with good stewardship practices like CITO. edit: Ran my numbers, 26.2% archived for me. Though some of those are locationless and events so thats a little off.