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That is no problem to have the problem with the regions. If you have a slow internet connection, often the regions does not change or change very slowly. The error was made by me, typing G for Germany and R for Rheinland-Pfalz. If I did not see this error, Rhode Island will be a part of Germany :-) Tell me if it happens again.

I did not get an email, when there is a new entry in the forum. All Notification Settings are correct. Is there a mistake in the fourm application? CADS11

There is also an officially sign which shows a white dove on a blue background. I think is is possible to decide what is a dove of peace and what is a single dove. There must also a picture which shows the whole "scene". What is meant with the dove. The idea to find a symbol of peace makes sence, makes more sence than to find symbols of comics, like other waymarks.

50 feet = 16m ====> too close together, only one column!

We also have a question to the community: What is the best headline for that catagory in the Category Master List? Buildings ? It is no building Buisiness ? Culture ? History ? Not for the newer ones. Monuments ? Oddities ? ... What is your opinion? I have an idea, but we like to hear / read your opinions. Thanks

If you can see the advertisment (transparent) yes.

Thanks Alfouine, for that information. There was no restriction, when I posted a waymark in that category. 1 mile means an area of 8km², that is more than the city center of Bonn, former capital of Germany. This group wants only 1 cover per city. I think, that is the death of this category. Thanks, I will never look for a cover again.

That is exactly, what we discussed hardly. You and elyob are the only waymarkers who mentioned the problem of “Within five blocks of my current location, there are over 100”. I don’t know, which town elyob thinks of, you are thinking of Dallas. We do not have that problem in Germany and in France. Also the Swiss and the Austrian waymarkers did not mention it. There are several possibilities: You can say, only 1 column in a street, but I found one of the longest streets in Germany are 4500m long, in the USA up to 30 miles. Only 1 column in 30 miles? NO You can say, only 1 column in a circle of 100m, but 100m seems not a great distance for an American town. In a German old town, that distance can include half a dozen blocks. I see not a problem, if 2 columns are several blocks away. I looked for other categories, which has restrictions in distance. I only know one. Please tell me, if there are more. In the Coin-Op Binoculars category is written: „For locations that have multiple Coin-Op Binoculars you may submit one listing per area. During review if the "Proximity Alert" goes off you will likely be told the area has already be claimed.“ Here you find no exact definition. We have to find a solution for the fact “Within five blocks of my current location, there are over 100” and “Do you have examples for North America?“ (quote BK-Hunters) or „so they should exist worldwide... Could you give examples of these columns in Australia, please?“ (quote Tuena) Perhaps you have a better solution, that solves your problem without building a new problem in another part of the world. We think, only one on a city center place, only one in front of the railway station, when there is one at the left and one at the right entrance. PS.: Perhaps we have to check this fact, when the category is accepted and the first waymarks are published. If we see a specific need of changing the description, we can do it (compare: Coin-Op Binoculars: “For locations that have multiple Coin-Op Binoculars you may submit one listing per area. During review if the "Proximity Alert" goes off you will likely be told the area has already be claimed. Previous to Sept 01, 2013 we allowed every device to be listed individually. Those listings are grandfathered.“)

In the group, we discussed this topic and also in the forum. We created a proposal for a description: Advertising Columns Description: Look for advertising columns, columns fixed to the earth and used for temporary and varied advertisements. Expanded Description: Advertising columns or Morris columns (French: colonne Morris, German: Litfaßsäule) are cylindrical outdoor sidewalk structures with a characteristic style that are used for advertising. They are common in the city of Berlin, Germany, where the first 100 columns were installed in 1855. Advertising columns were invented by the German printer Ernst Litfaß in 1854. Therefore, they are known as Litfaßsäulen (Litfaß columns). In France, the columns are named Morris after Gabriel Morris, a printer, who held the concession for advertising in 1868. They were originally built by La Société Fermière des Colonnes Morris. Today, they are mostly built and maintained by the JCDecaux company, which purchased the original company in 1986. Advertising columns are most typically used to display advertisements in the form of posters; many such advertisements have traditionally concerned theater, cinema, nightclub, and concert announcements. Some are motorised and rotate very slowly. A few Advertising columns house Sanisettes/toilets or telephone booths. These advertising columns are one of the oldest form of advertising in the world and some of the oldest ones are heritage listed. Most famous advertising columns played a role in movies such as: The Third Man, Harry Lime (played by Orson Welles) uses one of these columns as an escape route to the sewer system under Vienna. In the movie Gremlins 2, Billy Peltzer (played by Zach Galligan) and Daniel Clamp (played by John Glover), use one of these columns as an escape route from the Gremlin infested Clamp Building. In the movie Men in Black II, Agent K (played by Tommy Lee Jones) and Agent J (played by Will Smith), use a column as an escape route from an alien infested MiB Headquarters. Instructions for Posting a Advertising Columns Waymark: What we are looking for: Columns that can be used for temporary advertisements, often displayed as posters. The shape is a column with a roof, between 1m and 2m in diameter, and a height between 2 and 3m. The column is fixed on the bottom, mostly with a concrete base. No movable columns are allowed. If columns are standing close together, only one column can be waymarked. Instructions for Posting an advertising column: COORDINATES must be obtained by a personal visit to the site and should be taken at the column. PHOTOS: Please provide two photos, one close up photo of the column and one photo which shows the column in its surroundings. DESCRIPTION: Please describe the shape of the advertising column and explain, if it has something special or significant about it. Also discribe a minimum of one of the advertisements posted on the column (if already available), and explain what it is. A long description is required. NAMING CONVENTION: The name of the waymark MUST follow this format: Name of the place or name of the street – City - State/Province - Country. LANGUAGE NOTE: We recognize Waymarking as a global hobby and welcome waymarks from all countries. All waymarks must have a long description section in ENGLISH. We encourage bilingual and multilingual waymarks. Examples of acceptable and unacceptable advertising columns Beautiful old column, acceptable. A newer column, acceptable This is an enormous Pritt Stick and not a column for changable advertisments therefore unacceptable. Here no advertisements are fixed. It is only a WC (=water closet, toilet) therefore unacceptable This is an enormous needle therefore unacceptable Not fixed on the bottom therefore unacceptable Instructions for Visiting a Waymark in this Category: VISIT LOGS: 1. The waymark coordinates must be personally visited. 2. Give the date and a description of your visit. 3. Post at least one photo taken at the time of your visit. We hope, everything is understandable and the language is correct.

Colorin Santo Domingo DO

Ville de Gatineau Gatineau, QC

San Francisco

I have't seen hundrets in only 5 blocks. In my region there are more heritage listed houses (10 in one short street) or Coat of arms (10 on one building) than advertising columns. Perhaps this would Characterize what is meant: Columns that can be used for temporal changed advertisements, often as posters. The shape is a column with a roof, between 1m and 2m in diameter, and a height between 2 and 3m. The columns is fixed on the bottom, mostly with a concrete base. No movable columns are allowed.

You are very lucky. In the little town, where I live, there is only one Litfaßsäule. I know, in big cities there are more than in small cities or villages. Are these columns are all "Litfaßsäulen"? Not every column is meant here. Examples are in the pictures above.

The members of the group selected icon #3 Thanks for your work.

I prefere #3, thanks

First of all thanks for the support with the global transmitter icon. I think the last one hits the point. I agree, the last one.

Just noticed this category in Peer review. I have to agree with Blasterz that it should include ALL locations listed in the Australian national heritage database. I'm not sure the reasoning for excluding the overseas locations. It seems these could only make the category more global and accessible to other waymarkers. I'm afraid I'll have to abstain on this one unless all locations are included. That is a discussion about 5 entries.

I see no problem in requiering 2 photos. 1 showing the whole transmitter the other one the ground facilities. Or the second one showing an information about the transmitter. Is there a need to explain excactly which photos you have to take?

Only Registrered objects should be accepted. My proposal, in description, I insert the sentence: Only sites with the status 'Registered' are accepted.

Thanks to the Australian Waymarking colleagues following my invitation.

Historical Marcers: Description: Any plaque issued by a governing body, (a municipality, tourist office or Council, etc.)and Historical Society or Descendants of Historic groups of people, will be considered for inclusion in this category. Normally these plaques are a standard design but can vary between regions. Same difference like: Deutsche Denkmallisten - German Monument Registers and Signs of History

In the description is written: We are not looking for Heritage Sites outside the Australian jurisdiction. But Australia, all Australian islands and the Corres Strait Islands are included. No places in Europe are allowed. I would vote no on this category then. Australia was part of a worldwide colonial empire, and therefore its history ranges across the globe. It's inappropriate (in my view) to exclude places like Gallipoli that are so significant that they are listed as an Australian Heritage Site just because a waymarker not from Australia (but who has been there on business trips) decides European Australian Heritage Sites shouldn't quailfy. There are New Zealand Heritage sites in London (UK) that are in the NZ database and are acceptable waymarks - I have one. We have US National Register properties "overseas" in US territories and those are allowed. Either waymark ALL the LISTED Australian National Heritage SItes, or NONE of them. I am most troubled by the complete lack of interest from Australia so far. If they don't want the category, and it is limited to the country only, there Is a legitimate question about whether this category is sustainable, which means it needs Australian desire for it and participation in it. Thanks for your thoughts. That makes it much easier. We delete the lines: We are not looking for Heritage Sites outside the Australian jurisdiction. But Australia, all Australian islands and the Corres Strait Islands are included. and accept all entries in the lists, mentioned.

In the description is written: We are not looking for Heritage Sites outside the Australian jurisdiction. But Australia, all Australian islands and the Corres Strait Islands are included. No places in Europe are allowed.

You are right. We thought of waymarkers in Australia. I have been to Australia very often, cause of my job. It is my second most visited foreign country and I think I know several places in Australia. I will be there again in autumn. I know lots of Australian geocachers, but less of Australian waymarkers. I have contacted some and waiting for an answer. I would not offer such a category in for example USA, because I have never been there.