Sol seaker

So does anyone know where Groundspeak stands at this point on Challenge caches? Are we going to be able to create new ones again? Are they going to be something people can make? Or are they still considering creating something that is a challenge cache with some guidelines?

Typing in a cache's name into the main search box should be the correct way to bring up the listing on gc.com. Unfortunately, that does not work. We have to scratch our heads for a moment wondering why caches came up that aren't anywhere close to what we were looking for. Then if we do choose to keep searching for it, we have to jump though hoops to find it. I know there are some who like this but i for one find it ridiculous... Thank you. I appreciate your response. Yes, somehow I expected it to act like most search engines. My bad.

Oh, and adding quotation marks gives me the exact same results. Using the new filters it came up with "DNF". Nothing. It is the name of a local cache.

I was searching for the cache "Playground Hangout" (which is the actual name of a cache) and these were my results: Kanona Cemetery Traditional | GC2FXGV by JJTally Traditional The Dukes of Decatur Traditional | GC2YA5A by JJTally Traditional Just North of the Tornado Traditional | GCVEM6 by shirsch Traditional Sappa Park Traditional | GC207YA by JJTally Traditional North & Central KS Cemetery Series - Oberlin Traditional | GC59T24 by jaqman07 Traditional Baseball Fields Traditional | GC2FVVY by JJTally Mystery Last Indian Raid Monument Mystery | GC1RKBP by JJTally Traditional Oberlin City Park Traditional | GC2FVVR by JJTally Traditional Last Indian Raid on Kansas Soil Traditional | GCV725 by DC KS History Buffs Traditional Welcome to Oberlin Traditional | GC2F08K by bordonifamily Traditional I’m on my way Home Sweet Home Traditional | GC2FTDB by Phil & Verla from OZ Traditional Centennial Park Traditional | GC2FVVK by JJTally Mystery Downtown Oberlin History Mystery | GC2FW5G by JJTally Traditional Highway 83 Travelbug Hotel Traditional | GC2FREK by JJTally Traditional Manhattan misses our Talley Traditional | GC5E2TP by Semmels123 Traditional Gateway Traditional | GC2FRF0 by JJTally Traditional Oberlin Municipal Airport Traditional | GC2FRF2 by JJTally Traditional Big Timber Cemetery Traditional | GC2FXJK by JJTally Traditional Vallonia Cemetery Traditional | GC2FXGP by JJTally Traditional Jackson Cemetery Traditional | GC2FXJ0 by JJTally Traditional Penn Cemetery Traditional | GC2FW82 by JJTally Very funny and entertaining, as there are 6 cemetery caches when my search word was "playground" but not very helpful. A little tweaking of the search engine would be nice. I like the new choices and the new format of the new search engine. Now perhaps a little more accuracy would be great. Thanks

Thanks Jester! You have a very Merry Christmas too!! And everyone else... Merry Christmas, Happy belated Hanukkah, happy Festivus, and whatever else you and yours celebrates. Jesus may be the reason, but I think it's also about community and family. So here's many thanks to the geocaching community, and best wishes for happy holidays and a great new year. Sol

It was titled "Other Conversions". I have that link saved and it goes to a "404 Not Found" page. So I guess this is being worked on. I last used the link just fine on 10/19/15. I saw this mentioned in another forum. I've used it quite a lot to help solve some puzzles which use different coordinates or to convert coordinates captured using Google Maps (right click on any spot on the map and click, "what's here", and it'll give you the coordinates in decimal degrees format). Although there are external sites that will do coordinates conversion, this is someone that has been on the site for a long time I can't think of any reason why I would have been intentionally removed. No worries. You have not been intentionally removed. We love you and would not remove you. intentionally or otherwise. As far as this feature being removed, So what are we getting in return? We're losing this, what new is going to replace it?

Oh good grief! Life is rough. Good to hear from you. I am in California right now. If you guys get down this way please stop by. I am working on finishing up the "Tattletales" series of caches - they have moved and are taking some of them with them. They are a really great series similar to our own great Dayspring or other great hiders. If you are in the bay area at all you might want to consider those. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?u=Tattletales I'd be happy to go find them with you. Have a great trip!!

Back to the original topic, I'm definitely not for weeding out "old" caches. The oldest ones I've found are some of the best I've found. However, I do agree cache maintenance is getting to be a problem. I am one of those people, who if I see a few DNF's then I generally won't bother. If I DO go after it, I try to go all-out and make a good attempt at finding it so I can put a NM on it. I am one who DOES log "Needs maintenance" and "needs archiving" as needed. I know they're not going to archive it just because I mark it as such, but if a cache has been down for a long time and the cache owner hasn't logged on in over a year, I don't have a problem with putting a N/A on the cache. I've known instances where the cache owner has showed up again and then they can unarchive it if they replace it. I really love the old caches, but it's not necessarily the old caches that are the problem. Very often someone new to geocaching will put out a few caches and then quit playing. I see those as the larger problem. There are getting to be so many caches and fewer and fewer people seem to be marking "NM". Perhaps some automation will help.

Good thing she didn't find an ammo can.

The ebay listing is still active at this point and if that message was on the ebay page , it's not now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Time-capsule-Message-in-a-Bottle-Cash-stash-Al-Capones-vault-/252011337193? It's obviously spray painted cammo. I've found glass jar caches a lot. There was one spot where it really worked well, although I don't think they're a good idea in general. I've found caches in stumps that I had to pull them out of after the stump collapsed. I hate it when that happens. I can't believe she really didn't open it.

My priorities have changed. I wanted to clear out a huge area around my house and work my way out. Now where I live I haven't found one for a great distance around my house. Things changed a lot after I did the "Washington State Island Hopping Challenge". Nothing could top that, so I've been trying to find caches that take me to good places, even though none can be that good. I do a lot of earth cache now, when before I couldn't be bothered with all the work it took to log them. I visited a lot of them, and even wrote down answers, but never logged them because they were too much trouble. Now I seek out earthcaches because usually they are in cool places and they will teach me something. I think I logged 6 or 7 last weekend.

Take a look at the map of geocaches anywhere in the world. You tell me.

The only constant is change. I think the favorite points was a great idea in getting the game back on track so people place some value in placing a good cache. The other thing that Groundspeak did that was great was the makers workshops, where they showed people great caches and how to make them. The problem is that one person's great cache is different from anothers. For instance, I've always hated drive-ups. Then I injured my back and could only do drive-ups. I was so glad they existed. I've heard others say the same. Quality is not something Groundspeak can regulate. I'm sure they wish they could. The thing is caches are put out by the players, not Groundspeak. They can't regulate quality because what a good cache is varies person to person. If GS didn't publish my cache because it felt the quality wasn't high enough I'd be pretty mad, how about you? Is there something WE can do about it? If we all held events in our hometowns about how to create an inventive quality cache it might help. What else can we do about it?

No, not really. It more indicates that the sport is populated by a lot of whiners. Nice. Thank you for your trolling. Actually, I'm not. Hitting five pages in the forum, complaining about logs when there are probably bigger issues? Come on. I find this funny because it's written in a geocaching forum. There are bigger issues than anything in this entire forum. I mean, really, we're talking about finding tupperware in the woods (or film cans under lamp post skirts). There is a whole lot more important than any of this. We geocache for fun. Hopefully we come to the forums for fun. Perhaps some people are having fun complaining about logs. Who knows? But it's all just geocaching.

Here's a fun one. Not a real body of course. You've got to go through some swamps to get to it. The owner had threatened in the past to archive it to make sure no one else would find it. It's pretty tough to get there, so not much chance, and now the thing is so old it can't be mistaken for the real thing. The cache owner in the past has also promised to hide in the swamp and scare the beejeebers out of you if you go on Halloween. We had a group going one year but I got a bad flu so wasn't up to wading through a deep swamp in the middle of the night. My loss.

I came way too close once. I found a boat cache that was attached to a tree. We pulled over to the shore nearby and I got out and walked around a little to explore. My ex was in the boat and suddenly yelled and demanded I get right back into the boat. That was not like him. I didn't know what was up. I think it was a feeling he had, because he wouldn't talk about it. He had no real reason to get upset. I was near that area a few times in the next few months and smelled something really bad (and strong). Then a few months later I read in the paper that they found a body there. Part of me wishes I would have found it so they had a better chance of catching the killer because evidence is best found right away. But part of me is glad I didn't find it too. She wasn't going to be any less dead by my finding her. There is somewhere else I found a cache where a body was later found. The body wasn't there when I cached that time. That was a pond that they fenced off after the body was found. Since those things have happened I've been very aware when I'm in areas where bodies might be dumped. It really happens often with geocaching. I was in a park one time, way off the main trail, and smelled something really bad. I didn't look around but just called the police on that one. They were really nice and called me a few times and asked where the cache was (I told them I could smell it from the cache and gave them the coordinates. They found the cache ( I told them to sign it) but didn't find anything dead. They were really nice about it. I'm really glad they checked it out.

Thank you. We both have a hearing problem and avoid groups of people as all we hear is a loud roar. I am adding the rest of the North caches to my Darrington Bookmark and will do it after we do the South trails and get the goal of 10,000. Our daughter lives in Bothell and wants to be with us when we get the 10,000 so we will be going after it on a weekend sometime. We will either stay in Arlington or in Darrington for a couple of nights when we do the rest of the North roads. We will probably bypass the ones that are not near the road. I understand the motel in Darrington has changed hands. The lady that use to have it fixed us a nice bkfst when we stayed there before. Dick & Arlene Well, we cached yesterday on the south side of the river and then this morning we picked up a few in Darrington and on the way home. We have 9995 finds. Looking for a 10,000 cache to go after. Would like to go after the oldest cache in Kitsap County which is Green Mountain Cache. I have climbed it several time before geocaching and use to fly fish Gold Creek Beaver Ponds which are between Gold and Green Mountains. I can no longer fly fish (lost 3 tendions in right arm) and could no longer make the two mile trip as the knees don't work so well. Been thinking of Headquarters Cache but they seem to be during the week and our daughter would like to be along but doubts if she can get off of work in sales for Weyerhaeuser We are not much for Urban Caches and have done most of Goblin Dust's Great caches. Not looking for a big event. just a nice cache that would b worthly of a big milestone. Any suggestions. Thanks Dick & Arlene The Totally Tubular caches by Dayspring seem to garner lots of favorites. The Headquarters Geo Tour series, and it does include a Goblindust cache, HQGT: Ode to the Golgafrinchan Phone Workers I have not personally done these caches, but they certainly have a ton of favorite points. All are oiver in Seattle. Dayspring's caches are FANTASTIC!!! http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC12WGA_tubulaire-extraordinaire That one is my favorite, although I don't have a "find" on it yet. We miscalculated the final and it was dark by then, so we didn't finish. I've been planning a return trip with some other people because this one is just too good not to share. It's by far the most amazing multi I've ever seen or could imagine. We did every stage except finding the final. It was so much fun I don't care that I didn't find the final. Now I get to show the cache to someone else. And besides that I thoroughly enjoyed it. Could you have guessed?

Great stories!! Thanks for sharing your adventures!! We're all ears here waiting to hear more.

It would be good to return to the topic as framed in the initial post. The side discussion about banned posters was also the subject of a topic which has since been closed. As in that closed thread, discussion of specific forum discipline cases is ultimately unproductive as the moderating team does not discuss the circumstances of individual actions, leaving the moderating team wide open to speculative half-truths. Thank you. We will now return to our previously scheduled discussion.

Unless you want to blast TPTB. No. I do not now, nor have I ever, supported blasting anyone, including the powers that be. If you noticed, I'm the one who applauded them for the new search engine. It may not be perfect, but I'm SSSOOOOO happy they did it. I see it as a major improvement. I don't think blasting people helps anymore than banning people. I don't think people learn either of those ways. There are better ways to teach people to behave well. (Although I admit some WANT to behave poorly. But the only way to weed those out it to have a conversation with them before you ban them) I said "keep it nice in my thread" and I meant nice toward EVERYONE.

I don't post as much here now as I used to, mainly because I find almost all the topics pretty uninteresting. But anyone who has been around for a while knows that I have some very strong opinions. I got a week's worth of time-out once a few years ago, and that was enough to make me re-evaluate how I interact on the forums. I have been pretty careful since to not step over the line, though I often enjoy pushing the limit. IMO, the recent forum bans were completely justified. It's a temptation, as an old-timer, to be condescending toward newbies who don't immediately give appropriate weight to one's obviously correct opinions. A teeny bit of compassion and understanding can do wonders, though, and refraining from posting snark at what one may perceive as a stupid question goes a long way towards making the forums a nicer place. Personally, I have grown very tired of all the detailed nitpicking over the rules and guidelines. What's so hard about just going out, finding the kinds of caches you like, and having a good time? Why is it so important for some people to try to prevent others from caching in ways they don't approve? On the other hand, watching the forum fights over the rules has given me a lot of insight into human nature. There seems to be an innate desire for more and more detailed rules built into the human psyche. This...very much. All +1, but +100 to the part I bolded.... AGREE TO ALL So are these posts supporting blasting people who blast things? Please keep it nice in my thread.

I began by answering the question, explicitly, yes. Then I addressed the current state of the topic. If Sol seeker wants the thread to remain "on topic", and it was not ever supposed to be about the politics of those who have been banned, then she needs to speak up and attempt to steer it back on course. Otherwise, yes, the thread was not purely intended to discuss "What is the value of old timers in caching?" Post #7 - knowschad first steered the topic openly towards forum politics. Then Sol Seeker: "The point is that those who have been around a while have a lot to offer the community. They have VALUE in being here. They have a lot to share. ... We need people who have been around a while. The forums belong to everyone. Or at least they should. " Seems forum politics (not just value in geocaching) are a touchy subject. Then knowschad: "There seems to be a little confusion in this thread, I think. Are you referring to Geocaching old-timers, or forum regulars when you talk about old-timers? I thought you were referring to old-time forum regulars." Then the air was cleared in TriciaG's post #25, that there is a solid underlying issue regarding recent long-time forum users. And numerous responses have agreed, quite pleasantly, that there is certainly value of old timers in geocaching. I don't think anyone would disagree. So once again, if the thread is legitimately, and sincerely to discuss the value of old timers in geocaching, then sol seeker should make that clear. Either Knowschad misunderstood by post 7, and the thread has since already derailed into more angsty forum drama not related to the OP, or the thread has always had a passive-aggressive intent to rant about forum politics ETA: I'd love if this thread were just to talk about old timers (of all types) in geocaching and their value and merit! Share some examples, help promote community and loving and caring and fun and helpfulness! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. And most threads in these forums anymore turn angsty, and judgmental over time, in case you hadn't noticed. Please re-read your own post and think about if there's anything there that might be adding to that.

I began by answering the question, explicitly, yes. Then I addressed the current state of the topic. If Sol seeker wants the thread to remain "on topic", and it was not ever supposed to be about the politics of those who have been banned, then she needs to speak up and attempt to steer it back on course. Otherwise, yes, the thread was not purely intended to discuss "What is the value of old timers in caching?" Post #7 - knowschad first steered the topic openly towards forum politics. Then Sol Seeker: "The point is that those who have been around a while have a lot to offer the community. They have VALUE in being here. They have a lot to share. ... We need people who have been around a while. The forums belong to everyone. Or at least they should. " Seems forum politics (not just value in geocaching) are a touchy subject. Then knowschad: "There seems to be a little confusion in this thread, I think. Are you referring to Geocaching old-timers, or forum regulars when you talk about old-timers? I thought you were referring to old-time forum regulars." Then the air was cleared in TriciaG's post #25, that there is a solid underlying issue regarding recent long-time forum users. And numerous responses have agreed, quite pleasantly, that there is certainly value of old timers in geocaching. I don't think anyone would disagree. So once again, if the thread is legitimately, and sincerely to discuss the value of old timers in geocaching, then sol seeker should make that clear. Either Knowschad misunderstood by post 7, and the thread has since already derailed into more angsty forum drama not related to the OP, or the thread has always had a passive-aggressive intent to rant about forum politics ETA: I'd love if this thread were just to talk about old timers (of all types) in geocaching and their value and merit! Share some examples, help promote community and loving and caring and fun and helpfulness! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease. So your first few lines make it sound like Knowschad and I are the same person, or at least see the world the same, or think the same, or ARE thinking the same, or something. I have no idea where you got that one. I assure you that Knowschad and I are indeed separate individuals; I am not a dog. As with every single other thread in these forums, or any forums for that matter, everyone can and does make of them what they will. I made myself clear in the first post. I don't know why you decided everyone else was speaking for me in muddying my opening post.

I am sorry you guys aren't getting out as quickly as you wanted to. You two are good people, and deserve a really wonderful trip. I hope you get a fantastic trip when you are able to get out. Hugs to you both.

Ummm, major difference. On streets speed limits are clearly posted all over. And then on top of that, most of us know the speed limit on our freeways and on the side streets of our local towns. And they don't change without a lot of hoopla in the media ("SPEED LIMITS INCREASED???? IS THAT SAFE????!!") What this thread is about is asking what the speed limits are here. We know a few of them from the forum rules, and some of them from the site rules, but because of the recent bannings, the questions has come up about unspoken rules. There are a lot of them, we're trying to figure them out. Such as the last post I made. That is not in the main posting rules of this forum. We're supposed to just know it I guess. But then the unspoken rules can vary moderator to moderator, so, I for one, want to know what the rules are so I can keep from "speeding". It is never my intention to break forum rules (at least not so far ). If I don't know what the rules are that makes it tough.