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  1. I agree with the OP. Let's not stop at multis however. Why should I hike 6 miles to a traditional cache and only get 1 smiley, the same a cache and dash?


    Why should I spent 6 hours hunting a 5 star difficulty cache and only get one smiley?


    It is a rip off I say!


    Here is what I propose. After an extensive study I determined that the average cache takes 8 minutes and 53 seconds to find. My idea works kind of like a taxi meter, which charges you for mileage as well as time sitting in traffic.


    Let's round the 8:33 number upward to 9 minutes. Every 9 minutes you spend on a cache, whether it is hiking there or actually searching for it you get a smiley. Add one more smiley for actually finding it. If you DNF the cache, you don't get that extra smiley, but at least your time wasn't wasted because you can log a bunch of smileys depending on how long it took.


    You are evil.


    The entire point of searching for caches is that one is not working. If I have to create time/effort studies, structure a spreadsheet and do time/resource forecasts, I may as well be at work.


    Recently at a local event I even joked that any puzzle that features time/resource forecasts would be bad and they said not to worry, it could not happen. And yet here is briansnat, one of the most respected members of this community proposing just that. My skin crawls at the notion. <shudder shudder>





  2. Does anybody feel that I should hunt a significant sample of puzzle caches before placing one? Are there any facets to puzzle caches that anybody thinks you might not be aware of before seeking a puzzle cache?


    I think it's cool that you want to create a puzzle cache. The one thing that is hard to know before seeking out a number of puzzle caches is how to rate the difficulty level. But this seems like a problem you could overcome with beta testers.



  3. I love caches with swag in them and therefore I seldom hunt for micros. That is, except for puzzle caches. The puzzle is reward enough. (Obviously if it had a puzzle and a regular-sized container and great swag and a beautiful location and a travel bug, it would be a perfect cache.)


    However, if you put your bison tube in a garbage dump, the garbage horror would overwhelm the puzzle cache fun and I would avoid it. Otherwise, I would not turn my nose up at your micro puzzle cache.



  4. I find podcasts a lot easier to understand than twitter, I'll admit. One seems like someone tivo'd the audio or video for me and makes it available for me and the other seems to boil down significance into 140 characters and often in an insipid way, ignoring complexity and nuance. I'm fully willing to admit ignorance here though; just because I don't see the implications from a concept doesn't mean that they're not useful!


    Some things can be said in less than 140 characters and lose none of their power. (for example "I love you", "We're through", "Pu-Erh tea tastes like dung-scented dirt") Most of what we say to people important to us is said in a very short form. It is the lengthy prose that lacks power.


    I suspect the problem you are seeing with Twitter is its use as a broadcast medium rather than as a narrowcast. My Twitter account has ten people who are allowed to read my updates, all of whom know me fairly intimately. They care when I write, "Fell down muddy slope geocaching. Injured." or "Pain is back." They know enough to fill in the gaps. Some of us share ideas for tasty healthy food via tweets since we are trying to improve in this and I appreciate it when my friends and family share. Obviously a stranger wouldn't care at all about these things. It would just seem insipid or dull. But we live our mundane lives for ourselves and our intimates, not for random strangers.



  5. well, I did it again, i went out this evening and (before you say I should know better i did it anyway)was only going to grab a few caches. Well one led to another to another.... many of which were in PI infested areas. I did come home drop the clothes off at the washing machine. I went straight to the shower with the dish soap. Washed thoroughly top to bottom. Now I guess we will see if the Dish soap and warm water theory works.


    I'm crossing my fingers for you! Please let us know.



  6. Would it be wrong or rude to request coins only in a cach?Not just trackables but any type of coin.

    I just think it would be a neat cach.

    thank you 2


    There's a cache near me that requests that people trade only stamps or first day covers, so I think coins would be fine. You could even put a coin-related puzzle on the cache for more fun.



  7. 5. I would seriously recomend that if you want to go into areas with PI that you do the following.


    a. wear long pants & long sleaved shirts

    b. Clean your hand often with soap and water &/or cleaning wipes. WITHOUT any moistureizers in them.

    c. Carry an epi pen as well as an anti-histamine, such as benydrl.

    d. when you get done & home with being out in the woods. Take a shower with soap & water, & immediately have your wife put your clothes into the washer & wash them, as you shouldn't touch them until they are clean again!


    Good luck, & sure hope you don't give up GC in the woods!




    Cool! We are doing it right. I shall tell my beloved that we have expert approval for our practices. I would add that the reason we remove clothes in the garage is to avoid getting poison ivy juices on carpeting where it will stay and continue to irritate my beloved. I recommend it as a practice for other extremely allergic people.



  8. ...Thats alot easier said than done, especially when the PI is growing on the cache or its dark, or its... the list is endless


    Fair enough. In my area Poison Ivy isn't common. It stands out. I can only think of two locations I've seen it. Stinging nettle though is far more common here.


    One of the fascinating things about viewing these forums is how different geographical experiences really don't translate well to other areas. In Tennessee the woods are filled with poison ivy and it is not possible to avoid it except by avoiding the woods. It winds around nearly every tree and in some areas carpets the ground in beautiful green plants. For some very sensitive people who have to walk through lots of poison ivy they can get allergic reactions merely from breathing in the disrupted plants. (It happened to a neighbor of mine who was helping clear an area for a rails to trails project.) I note that the OP is caching in Louisiana. My guess is that the vegetation there is equally thick and noxious.


    I am utterly immune to poison ivy but my beloved is sensitive. We make sure our bodies are covered completely before caching. My beloved wears work gloves when he pushes through poison ivy. Once we return home, clothing is stripped off in the garage and placed immediately in the washing machine by me. Then my beloved goes to shower to ensure that any parts that were exposed are cleaned as soon as possible. I take care of unpacking and cleaning anything that needs it or that he might touch. Then I shower so that any poison ivy on me doesn't harm him when I touch him.


    I have seen some products here in the outdoor stores that claim to prevent poison ivy and others that claim to treat it in the field, but we haven't tried them. Our best defense has always been to cover up, wash up, and keep anything that has touched poison ivy away from my beloved.



  9. I solved the Key to Cryptonomicon puzzle and it took over a month to do so. I know someone that's been working on it for 3-4 months now and he hasn't even made it to the most difficult part yet.


    Thank you for mentioning this. It looks like a very exciting challenge and it's in Tennessee!!! It is now on my list of difficult puzzles to work on. I love the challenges that take a long time to solve. (Of course, with me some of the easier ones take a long time to solve.)



  10. What is the protocol for logging a cache....logged one as a DNF but later found it. Do I update the previous log or log it again as a DNF?


    Most people recommend that you keep your DNF log as it is and create a new Found It log.

  11. We are dealing with the same issue for one of the puzzles we are working on. In our case, we did the research and found a statement by the copyright holder that deals with derivative works and fan-created material. Obviously we plan to abide by it. We feel very lucky that we did the search and found the permission and how to satisfy it legally. You may also find some sort of non-commercial/fan use that the copyright holder says is ok. Just search the web for it. Go to fan sites, which will probably have some sort of statement about how they got permission. Go to the company's site and select About <company name> or the FAQ. That's where they usually deal with copyright issues.


    Also, you may be able to get permission by simply writing the copyright owner. I have found that most people are reasonable. And if they are not reasonable, it is better to know it now (before they sue you) than after they do so.



  12. Which is it be sly or openly search?


    It is: size up the situation, factor in your safety, the safety of the cache (will the muggle come back and damage it), your estimate of how much work it would be to explain things, and how much fun it would or wouldn't be. Then make a decision based on those factors.


    I think you'll find that some people are excited to tell all to everyone. Some people prefer having a secret. And others prefer to avoid the whole muggle issue entirely by going to the cache at unpopular times or by only seeking low muggle caches (generally those that require a hike).



  13. Not really related to the latches, and probably not likely to be a problem in your area, BUT:

    I recently found an otter/pelican box in which the seal material had adhered to the opposing lip it was sealing against, probably due to the extreme heat here in AZ. As careful as I was, there was some damage to the seal, and some residue on the formerly smooth sealing surface. This container is not likely to encounter much of a test of water-resistance, so it should be OK.


    I would suggest a light coating of silicone grease (O-ring lube) on the seal to prevent adhesion.


    Thanks for the info and the suggestion. It does get hot here, though not as scorching hot as Arizona gets. But I would think that silicone grease would also prevent other problems endemic to the Midsouth like mold.



  14. Notice that the cache meets all the guidelines: it has a physical container, etc. And AFAIK there is no guideline about how pathetic the cache's raison d'etre can be.


    Thank you for the information. I suppose I thought that "free to change the wording on the cache page" meant within certain bounds and that if I chose to completely change the cache I'd put up, I would have some explaining to do.



    I've long since accepted Mr. T's "Puritan" moniker. As a matter of fact, I kind of like it. But this Taliban thing is way over the top! For one thing, Mrs. Urkel is still refusing to wear the Burka I bought her last Christmas. Perhaps I should have gone with the frying pan, or toaster instead. :P


    You really need some feminine help in the gift buying department. I can tell you that no woman eating enough to keep her brains operational is going to wear a frying pan or toaster. Even if you bought 2 frying pans and suggested symmetrical placement, it wouldn't work. Metal clothes pinch.



  15. Confused here. The cache was approved by a reviewer in 2008, which is recent. The cache was installed by a venerable user, so it is not a newbie hide. Doesn't that mean that it is on the up and up? If it were not, it wouldn't have been approved, right?



  16. Surely you jest!. :)

    Did I hear someone call me? :P


    GSAK can run on a Mac - see this thread on the GSAK forums.


    Thanks for the link. It is true that any Windows program can run on a Mac if the Mac is running Windows (using Bootcamp or Parallels). But what most people mean when they say a program doesn't work on a Mac is that it doesn't work with the Mac OS. That is what I meant. If I'm going to go to the hassle of restarting my Mac in PC mode, there had better be a good business-oriented reason for it and a paycheck at the end. For my recreation (really for everything) I prefer Macs and the Mac OS.



  17. I use GSAK, and I can enter corrected (solved puzzle) co-ordinates manually. Thus when I upload a set of waypoints to the GPSr, any solved puzzles in the area are automatically included...no need for a special PQ...and the co-ordinates in the GPSr are from my solution, no need to manually edit in the GPSr.


    GSAK doesn't work with the Mac. :P Thus the need for other solutions.



  18. We love puzzle caches and up until this very moment all of our puzzle solutions have been written on pieces of paper that float around the living room. I thought the height of organization would be to input them into our GPSr. However, I just realized that I could make a personal bookmark list with the puzzle solutions (unshared, of course) and then when we want to find some of the puzzle caches we've solved we can do a map or PQ from the bookmark list to choose which one to go after. Doh! Why did it take months to think of this?


    A month or two ago someone mentioned that they have a special pouch for the trackables they pick up and move. We pressed an old Eaglecreek passport wallet into service for this function and it's really helped us keep the travel bugs and geocoins organized and prevented us from losing them.


    Anyone else have any geocaching organizational tips? Nothing is too obvious to mention. I can pretty much guarantee that I do not see the obvious for months. :P



  19. But if I see an arcade game in the woods at the coords and get out of my boat, and find out I have to beat classic Super Mario Bros. before an electronically-activated safe containing the cache is opened, well THAT definitely adds to the difficulty.


    So I guess I, too, would disagree with the way difficulty works.


    But the technological prowess it would require, as well as the need to possess Batman's financial portfolio, make such unique puzzles an impossibility for me. It seems to me it would be a 10.0 difficulty to MAKE a true 5.0 difficulty cache.


    Yay for soapboxes. Actually, I need to find more before I develop a soapbox. :-)


    I've come across a few puzzles or difficult caches out in the field that I thought were truly wonderful. They all started with an on-the-page puzzle, but after that the real difficulty was in the field.


    In one cache we had to stop thinking linearly and start thinking vertically. Since we thought we'd already solved the puzzle part, we weren't expecting this added twist. It was a difficulty 4 and deserved its difficulty level. We had to go home and think before we could go back and find the cache.


    Another cache featured an easy quiz on the page, but once you got to the field you found multiple stages. At one stage we had to solve a three dimensional cube maze puzzle to open the crystal box which held the coordinates to the cache. It took us a half hour sitting on a log to manipulate the crystal maze before we could open it. A few more stages with manipulative puzzles or mathematical conversions to get the coordinates for the next stage would definitely increase the difficulty level. As it was, that was listed as a difficulty of 3.


    One thing to consider is that a simple puzzle on the cache page is a serious distraction. It's a type of mental camo. People think, "Ha! Take that cache owner! I've solved your paltry puzzle. No way is this a level 4." But then as they encounter serious camouflage in the field or multiple stages each with it's own required solution, they are caught unaware and this increases the difficulty.



  20. I'm not sure I understand what you are asking here. The two spots that look promising for the other two caches I'm planning are both city-owned park area or areas designated to become parks. There are already caches in the areas but the area is not saturated.

    Sure do like that photo above.


    Thank you! That particular cache is GC1JGBV : Leonarda One. If you ever find your way to the Memphis area, I highly recommend visiting it. Not only is it beautiful, it is near other beautiful caches and close to the oldest cache in Tennessee.


    There are many beautiful areas here. You know how whenever you take someone new to Mount Evans they always say, "It looks just like a postcard"? The inner areas of the Midsouth swamps (or weirs) evoke a similar reaction. However it is more often, "It looks unreal, like some sort of dark fantasy landscape."


    Yes, now that I know where you are, I'd agree that you've got three terrain types to deal with - wet areas, wetter areas, and under water. Good to hear that you're on city park grounds and that they're already aware of the game and amenable to it. Sounds like the area is big enough that you should be able to place your cache where it will never be found by accident.


    There are a couple of things you might do to help keep your Otter hidden and a little out of the weather. One example is to hollow out an old log and insert it, and hide the log. Then again, if you're miles away, that could get a little heavy getting it on site!


    We have a very good community here in the Midsouth. They're knowledgeable and friendly and they seem to have forged good relationships with the parks and landowners. They are even invited by the parks people to give demos and lectures on geocaching. Often when I read the forums I think how lucky I am to be here.


    I shall consider your hollow log suggestion. It really depends on where I end up putting the Otter box, I suppose.


    Thank you!


  21. if you ask me, a football game is just there to provide bookends for what's really important.

    Ladies and gentlemen, the football team will be playing before and after tonight's featured performance of the marching band. :blink:


    OK. What is 'FTW'? When you used it with the picture of the babe, I assumed it meant "First to Wench", but now I'm mystified.



    Stunod had said he geocaches "for the free beer and chicks" so I posted a picture of his wife. They met each other through this site. Since she is such a babe, the picture showed that his comment was the clear winner in response to the original post, hence FTW (for the win).


    Thank you! That makes sense. (Far more sense than First to Wench. What was I thinking?) So they are among the people Snoogans was referring to when he posted the thread on romances started through geocaching?


    Wait a minute! She's wearing a saxophone. And you are Team GPSaxophone. Coincidence?



  22. Thanks all for your input on this. It really helps. I didn't know that the owner could delete the log entry so that makes me feel better if I happen to post a pick the owner doesn't like. I really like the idea of taking a picture holding the log sheet too.

    Thanks for helping out the newbie.





    I worried about the same thing when I was new but Briansnat reassured me and told me to include people in the photos as well. I took his advice (the same he gave you) and have gotten kind comments from cache owner and others about the photos. I have posted 495 photos since March it has been a source of joy.



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