Moose Mob

Right click on the file, select "open with", check the box that says something like "always use this program", click on the program you want to use, and open.

Also be aware that once you get a trackable tattoo, you can get a special icon for folks to discover. Here's and example: http://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?id=2457427

Hi, Please use GSAK forums for GSAK help. I know that you are trying to insert into Groundspeak's site, but I believe they have the solution you are looking for. Thanks

Get in touch with me when you get there. I may transfer there in April.

Here are the active sites I am aware of. GCC geocaching groups: Bahrain Geocaching (facebook) Geocaching Qatar (facebook) Geocaching United Arab Emirates (facebook)

There are a few power trails, geoart, and awesome standalone caches. Most of the geoart is around Victorville and Cache runs are from the top of Cajon Pass and through Bartsow. These are visible on the maps. Independent neat caches are found by looking at how may favorites they have.

Reviewers can only enforce what they know about. Most often, the CO doesn't describe the container. In this case, it was described as 'an oval plastic container' which gives folks these images. <= linky pooh

Also remember that there is no requirement to read the cache page. In most cache run situations, there is no reason to. There is also no expectatioon that a geocacher will utilize the parking coordinates, even if it is their best interest (been there a few times ). One should be able to find and log a *traditional* cache given only the coordiantes. In some cases it my be very difficult without hint or description, but it needs to be possible.

I have archived several caches under the 'not a good idea' category. No warning to the CO either, but still open for discussion should the desire. There are situations not foreseeable in the guidelines. Many times legal, no permissionissues, just not a good idea... examples: At the entrance to a homeless camp. Many tiomes these are OK, this open was muggled weekely. Truck driver pull over... in the middle of a constant supply of fresh urine and fecies. Post on city street just outside angry business owner - he would yell at geocachers. Geocaching is a light and fun activity. These types experiences are not light and fun (except maybe for the CO), so they do not fall in the realm of geocaching.

This is what I was planning on doing... there are three paths (proper ones) that lead to GZ. When the cacher gets within 10 - 15 feet, I would hide my obvious Red Herrings... but the actual coordinates would be the true cache container Perfect I've done a few of these with my daughter... funny seeing her yell 'found it' and dashing to the pile of sticks to the right, when my GPS arrow is pointing left. I have seen and would expect folks to destroy to distractors. You will need to 'reset' on occasion.

As long as the real cache was at Ground Zero. Anything else is something else. Finding a 'red herring' at the posted coordiantes that leads you to the real location is a multi-cache. One can place red herrings at other nearby locations. When walking up to a small cache, seeing a pile of rocks under a bush and going for it, only to find it isn't the cache "piece of paper saying 'try again'" and looking at your GPS and seeing you are still 26 feet away from GZ. By definition, a Traditional cache is found and logged *at* the posted coordiantes and requires no additional information. Some hides may be nearly impossible to find without some verbiage, but it needs to be possible. Some geocachers like to be 'cute' and use posted coordiantes several feet away.. 20, 30, 50 feet; just so they can add a star of two of difficulty. Rightfully, these should be listed as Offset (Multi) caches. In reality, padlock combinations in the text or hints and such should make it a puzzle cache.

I've done it with time to spare, and on the ET highway. Many occurances of caches within 30 seconds of each other... even a few times we found 3 in the same minute on the clock. So fast at times it was tough to keep up with the 'found it' button. The weak at heart should not attempt it. The brakes smelled really bad.

I cannot see anything productive coming from this discussion.

Yes, the most common solution is to load what you know into your GPS. The GC will hold 10k caches, so that works. My method is to load unfound caches as waypoints, then I use GSAK to hold found caches, corrected coordinates of solved puzzles, then load them onto my GPS as POI's. They have little information other than my logs for that cache, but enough to know there is something to be cautious of.

Very true... While nearly all geocaches in Afghanistan are on Military bases and none in Bahrain or U.A.E. are on base; places like Iraq, Qatar, and Kuwait are pretty mixed and for the most part Military passing through cannot go off base ans those locals in the area cannot go on base. Currently, there is an expectation that verbiage be included that states the cache is on base and there is 'limited access' to the cache. Perhaps 'limited access' is what we are looking for? this can extend to other situations that are not military related, such as permits to hike in backwoods areas or access permits of range access near Yuma.

One would hope that re-engineering a planned landscaping project to allow for the placement of a cache would be a milestone in showing the cooperative efforts between the geocaching community and the those we trust in managing our public lands.

Nice icons, but this one better applies to the feelings of most cachers, no? If you look at the stats of these known power trail caches, you will notice a lot of finds compared to those onsie-twosie caches in similar areas; especially in the case of the ET highway and the number of favorite points give to ET-0001. I would argue that the number of geocachers that enjoy power trails is higher than the number of geocachers that do not like them. The highest number is likely from those that are indifferent to the whole thing and just like to get out and have fun, however they define that.

So, we can use several criteria to help identify geocaches that have the same characteristics as power trails. Park and Grab stealth required (stealth not required) Difficulty 1.5 or less. Things we cannot search for and may or not meet anyone's definition of a power trail are "has same placement date" and/or "has same owner" as at least one cache within 600 feet. This will also remove those powertrails disguised as geoart.

Without having to define 'power trail', perhaps the use of Park and Grab would fit the general catagory of 'lame cache' that folks seem to be trying to avoid. To be useful, this attribute needs to be set by folks that find it, not just by the CO. Perhaps it could be catagorized by the lack of/low ratio of favorite points? Granted, it could be just one cache at a rest stop on the freeway. Without defintion of 'trail', it's tough to distiguish.

Very interesting...so with relatives in the area, I could consider leaving all of my caches here in play if someone were willing to check on them periodically and keep them maintained? Thank you for that information! Statistically speaking, non-caching friends/family are notoriously undependable, especialy if any of the caches need frequent attention as they will tire of this. The major factor in deciding if you want to keep them would be durability. Plastic containers can last a few weeks to several years. Cookie/altoid tins will rust. Locations that have many cacher visits will fill small log books quickly. Caches well off the beaten path will not turn up missing as often (in particular, very little pedestrian traffic).

While this would be really cool, this type of enhancement is lower on the website repair/enhancements list. The only way to see it is if the person uses a third party tool to show it to you. Check Moun10bike's profile for a tool he uses, or my profile for another tool. You can't use it to see someone else's map, but they can use it to make it available to you (and everyone else. Remember, when asking how to use a third party tool, you need to go to thier forums, not Groundspeak's forums. Happy Caching!

I'm trying to understand where Groundspeak has chosen to draw the line here. What is meant by "no information"? Because the night caches I've done that have used reflectors have used them in ways that conveyed information, for example:- make your way to this point - this is the correct trail - this is not the correct trail - stop here and search (although we were searching there for a physical stage anyway) - continue another 100ft and search Is the distinction that the reflectors merely exist, and that any information is communicated in the cache description or other instructions, where you are told what the reflectors' existence means? Does that mean that reflectors that DO convey information (e.g., a series of white and red reflectors that communicate binary data) are considered physical stages? But that reflectors that do not convey information are not? And does this apply to other markers that do not "convey information", such as painted stones, or unmarked metal tags, or zip ties that aren't attached to anything and that aren't arranged in a way that encodes information? Firetacks and similar items were excluded from the 'item placed by the cacher' catagory for several reasons - size, quantity, and lack of information. - They are small. Typicaly the size of a thumbtack or twisty-tie. - Quatity. There easily can be a few dozen in a three mile trail and effectivly block additional caches. - Lack of information. They are not meant to be 'found' in the 'puit your grubby paws on it sense. Once found visualy, you only need to get close to it in order to find the next point. There is a bit of wiggle room between a thumb tack and a metal tag with coordinates stamped on it. If you think you may want to use an item that fall in between, such as a painted stone or a shoe hanging in a tree, you may want to consult your revierwe for their view before going too far.

*** MONKEY WRENCH TOSSING *** Doesn't the link will give you the 400,000th cache submitted? Not all submitted caches are published.

The process of archiving and resubmitting a new cache page for an identical cache hide is called 'churning'. Generaly frowned upon and expect some resistance/refusal from the reviewer, especially if it has been less than the permanancy period. The catch here is that when a cache has changed significantly... replace micro with small, LPC with magnetitized electical box, hanging pill bottle with ammo can under a bush; then you *should* archive and resubmit a new listing since it has a different 'feel'.

I should add a bit of clarity here. There is no guideline that says you cannot own a cache more than 100 miles from home. What the guidelines say is that you cannot place a cache outside of your maintainable distance unless you have a maintenance plan. 100 miles is the point in which reviewers consider as 'area of operations'.