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  1. I have one and its awesome. Its basically like any other Nuvi for driving but dont think of it as just a standard Nuvi like the others. It also has a geocaching mode like the Oregon/Dakota's do which is almost identical.


    It shows full descriptions, hints logs, etc... You can mark the caches as found/unfound and it is also waterproof! You can drop GPX files directly on the device so you do not need to use any other program like GSAK to use it.


    I was really torn between buying the Oregeon/Dakota series, the Nuvi 500, and the PN-40. I ended up going for the Nuvi for a couple reasons. First I wanted turn by turn directions with text to speech which it has. The Oregon/Dakota or PN does not have that. The second thing which pushed it over the edge is it comes with full US Street maps and Topo Maps. If you pick up one of the other Oregon/Dakota models (except the high end models) you have to pay another hundred bucks for the Topo maps then another hundred for the Street maps.


    If you look though my previous posts you will see a few other posts for me on it but I highly recommend it!


    I'm not able to answer any of the OP questions, but I thought I'd pose this question in the interest of extracting more information from MustangTim... which might be of interest to the OP.


    Anyway, I'm just curious, when you have it in the car, i assume it is mounted in a landscape orientation, are you able to electronically rotate the display 90 degrees to a portrait orientation like you would use a handheld unit?



  2. Google Earth is another option.


    You have to make sure the area you will be navigating is in the cache (Of GE) before driving... It would just mean zooming in (at home while connected to the internet (unless you have some sort of mobile internet connection)) and navigating the route you actually anticipate driving. Since the cache only holds 2gig, I've heard of people having multiple cache files... It's not really very user friendly, but it's kind of cool to be driving along and watching you progress on GE.


    You can try it at home if your GPS has a demo mode. Set your gps in Demo mode, enter a route, have the GPS simulate driving the route, connect the GPS to the computer, start GE, go to tools, then GPS, go to real time and check "Automatically follow the path". As your GPS simulates navigating the route, your progress will be shown in GE.


    In the real world, while driving, connect the GPS to the computer, start GE, go to tools, then GPS, go to real time, and check "Automatically follow the path". As you drive around, you GPS feeds location information to GE. GE will plot your progress on the screen...


    Check this out:




    If you enter a From: and To: then hit Start, the top middle window will give you an idea of what your progress in GE will look like...


    But as others have said, nRoute works nicely. Just thought I toss out another option.



  3. The T has 4Gig of internal memory the non T only has ~900M. With the T you can load the entire 100k USA Topo and the entire US Street Maps as well. With the non T you won't be able to get the entire 100k Topo on the unit...

    Not sure if, by "non T' you're referring to the Oregon 300, or the Oregon 550. But in either case, those numbers are not correct.


    All three models (O300, O550, O550T) have the same 850 MB of internal memory, and all three use external memory cards.


    Check G5, G10 and G10a. here:




    The "T" models all have 4Gig of internal memory of which ~2.7 is used for the US Topo maps. The non "T" versions have no 2.7gig topo installed and have <1gig of available memory.


    All I was saying was that if you want the entire USA Topo and the entire USA routeable roads get the "T" model. With the "T", you're not just paying extra for the Topo map, but also for the extra memory installed internally.

  4. Before you do anything check the free routable maps at:




    I've never used them and can not vouch for them, but I would think it would be worth a look.


    The T has 4Gig of internal memory the non T only has ~900M. With the T you can load the entire 100k USA Topo and the entire US Street Maps as well. With the non T you won't be able to get the entire 100k Topo on the unit...




  5. I have been debating which maps to add to my 400T. The base map has topo/road/trails comparable to the Magellan MapSend Topo 3D that I had with my explorist.


    Talked to a cacher at an event recently and was told that the 24K West maps were about a block off and therefore ineffective for routing in the Central Valley of California (Merced/Modesto). Has anyone else experienced this with other areas? The 400T basemap is also up to a block off in this area as well.


    The "block off" problem corrects itself when I switch off the basemap and use the free Yosemite 24K topo that is free from GPSFileDepot. The Yosemite 24K topo has had some very minor trails in the few areas that I have looked.


    Looks like I may be better off just adding the City Navigator SD card and downloading the various free topos that I need from GPS File Depot.


    Is there a particular reason you want to buy the City Nav on the SD card? The DVD version seems more versatile. You can load in into your mapsource. You can load a sub set of it to your unit or another SD card (that is read/writable, along with other maps). The only benefit to the preloaded SD card is if you want to transfer the SD card between several GPS's.


    Just trying to be proactive.




    The option you describe is probably about as good as it gets. Garmins 24k Topo is better trail wise than most products out there right now, but not nearly accurate enough for routing to where you can count on it to let you know you’re off course. Map errors are often quite significant, often measured in hundreds of yards. What I would really like to see is transparent overlays with land ownership boundaries, so I would know if I’m on BLM, forest service, NPS, or private land, roads, and trails of course, and then guidance on what users can use the trails ie. Horses, hikers, Mountain Bikes, Motorcycles, ATVs, OHV etc. Right now, it’s up to the trail users to verify they’re on open and appropriate trails, but the best you can do for that information is hit all the different regional offices of the different land owners for paper maps, which are often not up to date, and not detailed enough to make navigation easy.


    It sounds like for that kind of detail you almost need to make your own trip by trip maps.


    The BLM appears to have tons of property shapefiles available for download at



    Thanks for the link. That's an excellent source for land ownership that I wasn't aware of until your help. I was looking over an area up in Idaho that I just got through exploring with my Quad, and found it to be interesting, as some of the land appeared to be private, yet the map shows it all belonging to the NFS. On the down side, there is a beautiful trail network up there, clearly marked, and a great area to explore that doesn't show on the maps. One of those things you won't find unless someone tells you about it, or you stumble on it.


    Just thought I throw this out there...


    Since you didn't mention exactly where "You were looking over an area, up in Idaho", I couldn't confirm whether or not there is coverage with the Northwest Trails database.


    Check out this collaboration: http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html


    It's a set of user provided track that have been converted to a transparent map overlay for Garmin gpsr's. The trails are not routable, but it's still worth checking out. Coverage is WA, OR, ID, AK, BC etc... (the NW).




  7. Well...I guess I must be brain dead; but I can't figure out to save my life how to install it to my GPS. I don't understand how to download the maps to my GPS with Mapsource or the other program they recommend.


    1. Download: NW_Trails_v1.48.exe (or whatever the most current release is) and run it. That will install/register the maps with mapsource.


    2. In mapsource, zoom way out so that you can see the area of maps that you want to download (example: zoom out so that you can see all of Washington).


    3. Again, in mapsource, select the NorthWest Trails map set from the dropdown selector (if it's not there, the maps didn't install/register properly with Mapsource), click on the map tool, then hover over Washington (you should see a bold yellow outline of the state). Click it. You should see Washington appear in the Maps selection sidebar.


    4. In Mapsource again, click on the Send to GPS icon. Select Maps. Hit <enter>


    5. You should see Mapsource build the map set, then transfer it to the GPS. Every time you do this it will overwrite previous maps (the file gmapsupp.img) that you've sent. It won't overwrite your Topo maps (gmapprom.img).


    6. Restart the GPS and go to Setup, then Maps, then enable the NWTrails.


    NW Trails is a transparent overlay, so you should see the trails over the topo or city nav maps that you have installed.


    It's a very cool setup.


    If you're not able to get it working, you can PM for my phone number and I can walk you through it.




  8. I have a Garmin Legend. I would like to be able to take a trip that I made and transfer the info to something like mapquest or the like. You know maybe to give to someone so they could follow the same route or to be able to follow the same route again.


    Can someone tell me how to transfer a trip I saved on the Legend to a mapping program so I can print it out?


    thanks for the help


    Are you able to save the track as a *.gpx file. If so, you can drag and drop that file into Google Earth...


    Good luck.

  9. That's funny, I've tried tracking down the location of the bus myself after reading the book. Looks like google just recently updated the maps because before the site was blocked by the clouds. Someone should definitely put a cache out there! :P


    After a quick look on Google Earth, the exact coords of the bus are at N63 52.104 W149 46.157.

    Or on Google Earth, just look for Christopher McCandless. It's considered a landmark now.


    huh, how about that. However, it appears typing in his name takes you to a spot 10 miles east of the actual location.

    That is cool! That is one of my favorite books! :ph34r:


    Some fools got themselves rescued...




  10. I've been having a problem with my Garmin Oregon 400t recently. I go onto the cache page on Geocaching.com and click "send to GPS," then "Find Device" and "Write Now," and get the message, as always, "GPS information saved successfully." Problem is, as soon as unplug the GPS (safely disconnecting, BTW), the caches disappear from the GPS! They don't show up in either the map or the list of geocaches! I've owned this GPS since last December, and this has never happened before! It started about a week or so ago, I had a whole line up of caches downloaded in another town, but when I got there, the caches weren't on the GPS! Ever since, I've just hand entered the coordinates, but I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow and would really like to be able to download the local caches.


    Also I seem to have misplaced the manual. :laughing:


    The unit will only hold 200 of the caches that you "send to gps" from GS. How many do you have on there? You could delete some of the old ones.

  11. Hi all,


    Was installing maps on my Colorado 400t this morning when I accidentally deleted what I thought was my City Navigator file. In actuallity, it was my preloaded topo basemap. No, I didn't have the unit software backed up, but I will do so when I fix this issue. My question's are, 1. Can I download the basemap file from anywhere? I know it's a large file, but someone/somewhere has to have it available. I could not find anything on Garmin's website


    2. I have a friend who has a Colorado 400t as well. Is it possible to copy from is unit to my unit the basemap software? will that cause a license issue with the unit? Thanks for any help you can pass along!


    Can you clarify something? Did you delete the Base Map or the Topo Map?


    There is a base map: gmapsupp.img, ~273M and there is a Topo map: gmapprom.img, ~2,767M.


    Later you say that the CN works but that you can't get the Topo back on there. Are you trying to put them both on the internal memory?


    The 400T has 4G of internal memory. The CN and Topo will not both fit in the 4G. You'll have to get an SD card and put one or the other on there.


    Check this thread for additional information.




    Hope this helps.



  12. I went, I saw, and I conquered. I didn't really conquer it, but I was there and I did see it. Pretty cool place... no harrowing story or alien abduction or anything. Just a nice warm Summer day in the mts. Stopped at a couple of place on the middle fork of the Willamette (wild and scenic status). It was awesome. If any of you are in the area be sure to check out another enjoyable cache: Secret Falls, GC12R1K.

  13. I have a Oregon 300 with just the base map on it and I would like to upgrade the map. So my question is for geocaching what is the be upgraded map the TOPO or the City Nav.? I was going to download from filedepot but if looks like you have to have a mapsource already in order to download from them. Thanks for any help you can give me.



    You can download the Mapsource upgrade directly from Garmin. It will only work if you already have one of their map products.


    That said, you can download Training Center from Garmin directly with no restrictions on use. You can then download Mapsource and it "sees" Training Center as one of the required map products.


    Convoluted, but it works nicely.


    You can then download maps from GPSFileDepot and load them to your GPS via Mapsource.


    Again, kind of convoluted, but free is free...

  14. What kind of time frame will you be looking at?


    Yeah if the time frame was right I might try to join you for the trip unless you were wishing for complete solitude on your way to the Hell Hole.


    The I Hate I-5 Covered bridge cache above is a few hours south of Eugene and not one for this trip.


    The local forum for the Eugene area might be of help too. Emerald Valley Cachers


    Sorry, I didn't see theses posts until this morning. The idea of carpooling isn't a bad idea, but it wouldn't have worked out in this situation.


    I drove down to Portland Friday night and stayed with my sister. It wouldn't have been cool to show up with a complete stranger along for the ride.


    Saturday morning I drove down to the Hell Hole. It was a pretty "Cool Place"! What an amazing formation! I sure wouldn't want to be standing on the South edge during the "Big One".


    The covered bridges were cool as well. Thanks.


    But the highlight was a cache that I happened upon called "Secret Falls" (GC12R1K). Despite DNF'ing, it was an awesome spot.


    The Middle Fork of the Williamette River (Wild and Scenic Status) was beautiful.


    Lots of driving... ~200 miles Friday night, ~500 miles Saturday (I had to get back Saturday night to pick up my wife at the airport).


    If you go, don't do it like I did, take a couple of day and camp on the river...


    Was it a "Cool Place"?, Yeah, it was Cool.

  15. Harriet the Spy, thank you for being the only person to actually address the question of what to do now! I appreciate the suggestions!


    I agree - Harriet nice post. Perhaps a tutorial with pictures is in line for those who are struggling with a replacement for the GE KML.


    Are you kidding me? ~5 convoluted steps (worst being waiting for the PQ via email) instead of GE KML! There is absolutely no comparison. GE didn't need any tutorial, it just worked. Simply, Seamlessly, Quickly and Beautifully. Anyone that says otherwise is delusional.


    There has been all kinds of ideas thrown out... on demand refresh, premium2, abbreviated information. They would all address the "server load" issue.


    I suspect the real issue is keeping people on the site vs. spending time on GE. Ground speak earns $$$ while people are on their site browsing (viewing adds), they earn zilch while people are eleswhere.



  16. If anyone wants any 50 cal ammo cans I have several hundred!!


    Im asking 7.50 per can. Thanks




    I might be interested in a couple of them... but the question begs, how do you end up with several hundred 50 cal ammo cans?

  17. Hypothetically speaking...


    Let's say some fool from Washington wants to drive all the way down to the Oregon Hell Hole (Cool Place, GCGG27), a little to the East of Eugene, and he wants to hit some other interesting caches along the way, any suggestions?




    They show the easy route....



    Yeah, the only route I would even consider...



    I've been up Early Winter Spire, Shuksan and some others in the Enchantments long ago, but when I had youngsters I didn't feel like leaving them Fatherless...


    Now that they are grown, I'm thinking about doing some more climbs. And the 5.6 doesn't seem that unreasonable. That route proves that you can get to some truly awesome spots with RELATIVE ease. And wouldn't that be cool to be FTF on a 5/5 cache.

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