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We have 2 fishing poles small toolbox shopping bag of swag jumper cables qt. of oil old sneakers (2 pair) softball bat flashlight maps (WV, NJ, NYC) armor all wipes and glass cleaner I recently cleaned out my car (guess that would be our other car) found: 2 vols. of NY Domestic Relations Law ALWD citation manual NYSBA Lawyer's Code of Professional Responsibility Lawyer's Manual on Domestic Violence Representing the Victim a large binder from a DV conference empty coffee cup empty bottle of some sort.

I don't see a problem with leaving religious symbols, tracts, etc in a cache. My only problem would be if they were "hateful" in nature. It's not so different from the Gideons placing Bibles in hotels. If a religion is so important to the individual leaving the item, then why shouldn't it be a signature item? Who is to say that it wouldn't make another cacher feel good or welcome to find such a thing? Of course, condoms, cigarettes, lighters probably aren't such a good idea. Those are a bit more tricky to explain to a child and some of those items could do more harm if they were found by kids just playing in the woods. BTW olbluesguy love the magnet. shellie of M4S

That sounds like a really cool find! Thanks

wow, the description of that area sounds beautiful.

Geocachers! We carry all sorts of fun stuff, and yes we forget it sometimes. I harvested some ramps (wild leek) while out caching. I placed them on the ground somewhat near the cache and forgot them. The only thing that remained was the smell on me! My caching partner had never seen them before. I walked down the hill to the car, where she was waiting and I realized my folly. I just got a "what's that smell?" She thought I had just walked through some wild onions... bummer

or just the receipt!

saw that McD's will be offering adult happy meals with toys. Is this their way of improving geocaching?

We saw a sign that read "we buy crap metal" It probably said "we buy scrap metal" but the "s" had blown away... still almost wrecked the car.

Congrats Floopy!

We tried to find this one Saddle River Cache but couldn't.... I woke up this morning and was having a nightmare about trying to find it. The cache is located very close to a Catholic high school and in my dream it was right in a non-existent backyard. I lost my caching partner, and I was chased away by nuns. Then I found the cache and it had been muggled. I am hoping that the cache gods will be merciful today so that we can attempt it again. I don't need anymore bad dreams about caches. Yes I often have bad dreams when we don't find a cache... shellie of mistaken4sisters

I noticed that the TB has been placed in the graveyard... bummer. It was a very nice and thoughtful idea.

Hey all, I read Criminal's post last night and wanted to sleep on it before replying. Here goes: I had the privilege of growing in the wilds of West Virginia. We had 15 acres of undeveloped forest for a backyard and the National Forest was across the little one lane road. I spent all four seasons in the woods and the summer playing in the creek. My parents and I would take a long walk every October that went deep into the woods. We could see the colors of the leaves and collect winter pears that had fallen to the ground. To me, my soul belongs to those mountains. Fast forward to now: I have also been blessed to live in New York City and now in Northern NJ. I love both places. When I lived in the city I explored the city with the same mentality I had as a child playing in the Monongahela Nat. Forest. I didn't have a GPSr then so I didn't cache. Now, I live in Clifton, NJ. We have some hills with some great parks. I live with and cache with someone who was born in Brooklyn and grew up here in Jersey. Caching has been a way for both of us to get in touch with our inner child. That little 12 yr. old tomboy in me comes out, and she is fearless. I am afraid of heights, that little girl inside knows no fear. I have been to places in West Virginia and New Jersey that I never would have gone to or known were there. We like to cache, to go outside, to work on solving a problem together, and to write about some of the nonsense that we encounter (particularly me). Some interesting things we have learned: There is a really large set of waterfalls in downtown Paterson, NJ, giant, power-generating windmills on top of a mountain can be frightening when you come around a curve and there they are, you can step across the Potomac river at one point, don't sshh! a deer, and there are no flat parks in West Virginia. As always, happy hunting shellie of Mistaken4Sisters

While I think the foreseeability argument is nice, I don't think that a person who places a cache on PUBLIC land owes a duty to the cache seeker. If there is a danger in a park (for example) the park board, commission, whatever, owes a duty to everyone in the park to warn of the danger. For the interest of Geocaching and geocachers people should think good and hard about the possibilities of a cacher harming themselves on private property when looking for a cache. In some states, a trespasser is owed a duty by the land owner (make sure the land is safe for all who enter).

We hit the dollar store before our recent trip to West Virginia to pick up some new swag. We purchased some dog toys, cat toys, cards with dice, socks, light up key chains, he-man figure, dominoes, glow in the dark dinosaurs (place entire unopened pack), flashlights and sunglasses. We also leave signature items. We attempt to leave items that can be fun, useful or something that child would like. happy hunting

Congrats, Kar! You've always been very helpful to us...STILL hope to meet up with you some day! Mistaken4sisters

OK, so I tried the quote thing and it didn't work out right, but anyway... Hey Brian, let us know when you do it again, we'll be sure to be there edit: can't figure out how to make the quote thing work just yet

Another way might be the garage sales on this site. They are located here. We happened to get ours on a Marlboro promotion (not advocating smoking, but if you know someone who doesn't save their miles, might be worth looking into)...also, Target will have them on sale from time to time. Good luck & welcome!

Sounds great to me! I love hot springs and mineral springs. I would tend to agree with BrianSnat with regards to the BLM study. Is there something interesting that would not appear on an internet map regarding hot springs. Is there a neat rock formation, specific kind of tree, rock carving (petroglyph). As far as the need for such points of interest within the cache area, it has more to do with verification than with actual interest in the area. shellie of M4S

Oh, a few more things we thought of...there are a bunch of other "things" that we've found go along with caching...Here they are: "Where's George" (here), geocoins (look under geocoins, signature items, etc in the forums), letterboxing here, and book trading (here). Also, check out if there are any "local" caching organizations or look at the regional geocaching forums. Those are bound to have information that will relate directly to you. Have fun!

Hello ladycacher & welcome! We're fairly new here as well, but here is what we can offer... The whole PalmPilot/GPS system, we'd go with a GPS...simply because it makes finding the caches that much easier. Right now, when we cache, we take the GPS and paper (GASP) copies of the cache pages (we do print on both sides) and we keep them until we've done them. IF you have/need a PalmPilot for something else, go for it, but so far, we've done just fine without. From what I've seen, people have expressed the opinion that if you do use a palmpilot, get a cheapie from e-bay. What do you need to take with you? That all depends...are you talking about as far as finding the cache, the hike there, or once you get there? Finding the cache, as before, we'd go with the GPS...the hike there, check out this thread in the forums discussions As far as once you get there, there are several options. You can go the "TNLNSL" way (took nothing, left nothing, signed log), you can bring some "swag" with you (usually something that is "semi" useful or interesting, and doesn't cost a lot), a "signature item" (again, there are tons of threads on this, but try here) or do a search on signature items. Or just go with the TNLNSL route for a while & see what's in your area. Keep in mind that with kids, they'll get a kick out of the whole idea of picking an item & treasure hunting, so maybe think about what YOUR kids might like to find (within reason) in a cache. Look at the cache pages, and read the logs as to what others before you had to say...that will give you an idea of what is in the cache, whether its something you can do with kids, what the "accepted" practices are in your area, etc. As far as pictures, it seems most cache owners prefer that you don't take pictures that will "spoil" where the caches are for others, but anything that is interesting, or in some cases, the cache itself are more than welcome. Again, read the logs and the cache pages well. You may also want to check out the "locationless" caches (look at ...these) they are ones where people state a specific thing and you try to find it in the world around you. Pictures are very often required as far as "finding" them. As far as kids go, all the caches we've done (all 30 of them) have been pretty much "kid friendly". You need to decide what the kids can & can't do & heed the warnings on the cache pages & the logs. In our area (NJ), it seems there are a lot of families that cache, and we try to take that into account as far as what we place in caches. Finally, as far as where to upload images for your profile, etc, go to "my cache page" and then "edit profile" (its towards the bottom). If you want to add images to a cache page, you first have to log the cache then you'll get the link to upload images. Hope that helps you.

Hi, went sent you a message via e-mail...let us know when you get a chance.

34 today (well, really yesterday the 23rd) and 31 (she loves to rub that in). Haven't been carded in almost um...12 years until the other day when I stopped in for cigs after caching...I almost hugged the poor woman, until she looked at my license real quick and said "nevermind"...

We started painting wooden tiles (no 2 have been alike so far) and adding little dogs & cats (marked with our name) when we cache, along with whatever else we feel like trading. Just recently we got a note that someone picked up one of our dogs, and was taking it back to Tennessee...from NYC. We thought it was cool & are interested to see where they end up. We've also taken some sig items, but always note that in our logs so that if the owners want them returned to the cache, its not a problem...we just think they're really neat. There are many out there we've seen on websites & posted here that we'd love to run into. The imagination & work that go into them are amazing, and we certainly enjoy them, just like we hope people will enjoy ours. We've found a bunch of sig items from local cachers, some of who explicitly say please take it. Our refridgerator hasn't looked this lively in quite a while. We have no expectations about what happens to ours, other than someone gains some enjoyment from them (even if its just a laugh at our less that talented artwork), whether they are a collector or a child who liked the dog, cat or tiles. To us its not about the trading, but rather seeing the work that people put into making the caching experience a personal one.