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  1. When we did the motorgrrl coins we set the price very low (four bucks), which allowed us to sell more and get the subsequent discount. We also sold to locals only. Our thinking was that if they were very cheap and available to locals only that the majority of coins would travel and Leigh Ann's icon, which she was very proud of, would show up on a bunch of cache pages around the world. That seemed like a cool way to memorialize her. However, if the family had needed assistance we would have set the price considerably higher; in the 7.50 - $10 range and sold worldwide to generate as much money as possible.

     

    Feel free to send me an email if you have any other questions.

     

    Best wishes to Jon's family.

  2. Got a motogrrl coin that is doing well so far:

     

    Kansas Sunshine Geocoin 18 (Larry739) 7/1/06 27,745 miles

    57Chevy's Black Nickel Generic Geocoin 4/27/06 25,979.3 miles

    nielsenc Traveling EU Geocoin 1 12/15/06 24,115

    FSU*Noles 2006 SEPAG Geocoin (TB135R5) 7/8/06 22,830.7 miles

    AG's Traveling BikeDog Geocoin #2 04/07/06 22,653

    TGE-GG Wisconsin coin 12/13/06 22,339

    ICON HO!'s ParentsofSAM Geocoin - 03/24/06 20,640

    Plem45's Grand Experiment (1-1) German Geocoin 01/21/06 20,121

    bullit's Incline Village MG Geocoin 8/7/06 18347 miles

    chaosmanor's GPS Spinner #2 - 7/30/06 - 17,770.9

    Wild and Free #05 - World Travel 12/9/06 17,369

    57Chevy's 2006 USA 01/15/06 15,628.2

    Go Jaybee's Experiment - Damenace's Caching Around the World Geocoin - 01/21/06 15,129

    Mighty Mut the Hiker - Fox & the Hound personal coin 04/26/06 13,790

    911turbos Red Handed Coin # 2 03/07/06 13,482

    Regions of Germany Geocoin - Saxonia 07/23/06 13,362

    Worldchampionship 2006 Geocoin 03/03/06 12,948

    Ozy's Ocean State Premier Race Geocoin 05/29/06 12,596

    911turbos Geocaching Alberta South 7/16/06 11,934

    AG's Traveling Balloon Geocoin 04/06/06 11,678

    Go Jaybee's Experiment - Damenace's Joe Merchant Geocoin 01/11/06 11,582

    chaosmanor's GeoNut #1 - 7/01/06 - 11310.9

    Mystery Ink's - Found It! Geocoin 05/08/2006 - 10,849.4

    Not So Lost Puppies: Midnight's World Traveller 05/20/06 10,691

    Mauison's World Travel Geocoin 05/11/06 10,656

    Aloha motogrrl, Cache On (sillygirl & jrr) 08/13/06 10535.4mi

    TLB's Caught Red-Handed Traveling Geocoin 01/12/06 10,385

    FSU*Noles 2006 Arizona Geocoin (TB10G53) 5/22/06 10,267.8 miles

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #3 01/12/06 9,898

    Plem45's Grand Experiment (1-3) China Geocoin 01/21/06 9,104

    Mueller Memorial Geocoin by Prntr1 03/31/06 8,600

    Blue Canary Geocoin by Prntr1 05/02/06 8,483

    TGE-GG BackBrakeBilly 10/21/06 8,527

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #24 02/02/06 8,397

    Go JayBee's Grand Experiment - ^V^ New York '05 01/31/06 7,714

    Shilo's Phone-a-Friend Geocoin 03/17/06 7620.1

    Team LightningBugs' 2005 Traveling USA Geocoin 02/12/05 7,554

    Montgolfier - The Great Race Balloon 12/16/2006 7480

    CTKayak's Geo Screw Coin 03/05/2006 7,235

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #2 01/12/06 7,230

    Go JayBee's Grand Experiment - ^V^ Iowa '05 01/31/06 6,686

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #13 01/26/06 6,685

    Mauison's Prague Geocoin 04/19/06 6,255

    Go Jaybee's Experiment - Damenace's Georgia Geocoin 01/11/06 6,193

    Castle Man's Geo-Loot Coin #3 01/26/06 5,961

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #1 01/12/06 5,579

    J&J Sisters Forever 11/24/06 5,188

    Escout Released: Always Looking 08/30/06 4,897 Traveling with two below

    Escout Released: Blue Canary 08/30/06 4,897 Attached to other two

    Escout Released: Roberts 08/30/06 4,897 “

    Escout: Signal “Radioman” 4/15/06 4,889 (traveling alone)

    SWMG GEO ENGLAND 03/01/06 4,343

    SWMG GEO ENGLAND 1 03/01/06 4,341

    CR05 - Plem45's Finland Geocoin 02/05/06 4,302

    Serial Finder's Personal Geocoin #8 03/24/06 4,143

    Sandtracker's IowaBeaver Geocoin 12/25/06 4,073

    Not So Lost Puppies: Not So Lost Puppies Travelling Coin 12/16/05 3,927

    Ladybug Kids' Geonut Geocoin 06/03/06 3,666

    CR40 - Plem45's Signal Geocoin - (Feb 06) 04/18/06 3,474

    Wigoweb's Found It! Geocoin 05/09/06 3,360

    Where is JoeMerchant? - #029 01/14/06 3,350

    Ladybug Kids' UK Geocoin #2 05/20/06 3,327

    Team LightningBugs' 2006 Traveling USA Geocoin 03/28/06 3,228

    Jwucook's Evil Micro Geocoin released 6/13/06 2,988

    Ozy's Two-tones Double Dragon Premier Race Geocoin 07/26/06 2,860

    Kealia/Hula Bum Geocache America Coin 08/27/06 2,718

    Scan My Barcode (sillygirl & jrr) 05/25/06 2,671

    Kealia/Hula Bum Earth Geocoin 08/27/06 2,640

    Cornerstone4's Bikedog Coin 03/17/06 2,637

    Escout: Geocache Definition 07/30/06 2,584 now Missing

    Serial Finder's Geocoin 10/28/06 2,522

    Kealia/Hula Bum UK Coin 05/06/06 2,385

    Sawblade5's MIGO Geocoin 05 (MIGO Refurb 2005) 01/17/06 2,366

    PeaceTrain 05/27/06 2,317

    Kealia/Hula Bum Georgia Geocoin 05/06/06 2,281

    Dino CITO 11/5/06 2,269

    Cornerstone4's Temecula Valley Event Geocoin 03/17/06 2,172

    Mystery Ink's - Motorgrrl Memorial Geocoin 11/11/2006 - 2,166.3

    SQ's Travelling Project A.P.E. Geocoin 8/9/06 2,152

    Shilo's Geocaching U Geocoin 06/11/06 2106.8

    CTKayak's Vermont Geocoin 07/03/06 2,103

    ScoutingWV World Traveler 1 12/10/06 1,991

    Wyohunter - My First Micro Geocoin Released 10/12/06 1849

    IceCreamMan's Personal Geocoin #13 01/14/06 1,839

    IceCreamMan's Personal Geocoin #15 01/14/06 1,764

    RustyBeerCan's California Micro #1 04/07/06 1746

    Evil Micro Geocoin - Fox & the Hound 05/06/06 1,695

    Kealia/Hula Bum Iowa Geocoin 05/06/06 1,558

    Signal Frostbite 03/26/06 1,491

    Wigoweb's World Travel Geocoin 03/23/06 1,461

    CR20 - Plem45's Generic Geocoin (mini) 03/03/06 1,458

    The Grand Experiment - Remember the Maine... no date provided 1,434

    Sandtracker's Spud502 Geocoin 02/17/07 1413

    Kealia/Hula Bum's New York Geocoin 11/12/06 1,164

    Escout: California Geocoin (with TB tag)11/13/05 1,092 now missing

    Escout: Geocacher Definition 07/20/06 1,090 now missing

    cainrcc's Alwayslooking 99 "Traveling" coin # 1 09/25/06 968

    Southbayday's Grand Canyon 2 02/01/06 1,006

    The Grand Experiment - Don't Screw It Up! no date provided 974

    Sawblade5's Frozen Bone Geocoin (Bronze) 01/17/06 768

    Tdecell's Mississippi Geocoin #1551 no date provided 743

    Signal Geocoin Jan 2006 06/06/06 552

    The Grand Experiment - Throw Me a Frozen Bone, Would Ya? no date provided 510

    Wyohunter - Capitol Traveling USA Geocoin Released 11/03/06 358

    Scan My Barcode-Generic Geocoin 05/26/06 334

    Free's Pengy & Tigger coin released 02/28/06 262

    Team Jsam's POW/MIA Coin: released 06/08/06 253

    Sundailman's March Goecoin Club 04/06/06 218

    Creacher's Pair of Nickells Geocoin 12/08/06 211

    Claire's Birthday Zodiac Geocoin 07/03/06 168

    Loggerhead LE 04/02/06 151

    Sundialman's Earth Day Earth Geocoin 04/22/06 151

    The Blind Acorn no date provided 111

    Free's Lamppost Geocoin released 4/4/2006 04/04/06 93

    Finland Geocoin 03/10/06 37

    Hogwild Cointown 03/07/06 26

  3. Negative or not Travel Bug PRISON is the name that has become common useage for TB "hotels" with restrictions.

     

    Positive vs Negative casting of caches is the whole point of the thread. Criminal even calls them good caches and bad caches. Bad is also a negative term.

     

    This isn't only about my cache, this pertains to all the negative bookmark lists out there.

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    I'd suggest the bookmark show on the cache page, unless

    • It's been rated by 5 or more people.
    • It has a "useful" percentage of less than 50%.

     

    This is pretty fair. If there are less than 5 ratings it shows up. If 5 ratings or more the usefulness needs to be above 50% to be shown on the page. Thanks!

     

    Sounds reasonable to me.

     

    Another option would be that the cache owner can check a box on the listing that says display all bookmarks or consolidate as a "more" link on the page.

     

    It'd also be nice to see a thumbs up / thumbs down next to each bookmark on the list instead of having to open the list to see the rating.

  5. First of all, you are making an assumption that the TB Prison bookmark is negative. I have two lists, one of TB Hotels that have no limits, and one of TB Hotels with. The purpose was to see what the ratio was, good vs. bad. It’s running better than 2 to 1 in favor of the good hotels.

     

    Prison sounds negative to me. If you had named the Prison List "TB Hotels with limits" we wouldn't be discussing this.

  6. Bookmark lists are great when used in a positive way; caches along a route, caches in a park or caches with great camo. When used incorrectly, lame caches for example, they can be very negative. There are examples of this scattered through the forums.

     

    So here's where I'm coming from:

     

    My cache has been stuck on Criminal's public TB prison list for having rules. I don't know Criminal, haven't ever met him or exchanged emails with him and looks like he lives about a 1000 miles away from this cache but for some reason my cache got on his list.

     

    Keep in mind that in its two incarnations this cache has had over 300 visits with no complaints(that I recall) about TB rules. I keep a close eye on this cache and if I see bugs that are stranded I go get them and move them on. I also haven't ever received a complaint about a TB being stuck in my cache from a TB owner. So yes it does have rules but it does say that if you can help a bug with its goals there are effectively no rules (he conveniently leaves this point out on his list).

     

    These "rules" were put in place on my previous cache mostly because a few local cachers used to go around gathering up all the bugs and jeeps and coins in the area. So people would come along and find TB caches empty. These people are gone now so I suppose they are redundant but if Criminal had just pointed out the thread to me and said "hey the general consensus is that there should not be rules on TB caches" I would have read it and said hey that sounds interesting. That seems like a good way of dealing with his particular issue instead of creating a list of caches that casts them in a negative light with no debate on the issue.

     

    I look at some of these bookmark lists as cache page graffiti... any person in the world who has no clue who you are or how good your caches are can slap a this cache sucks bookmark list on your cache. Or "hey world I got FTF on this cache".... I don't think this usage of the lists was the original intent. The logs cover all of this; if it is a lame cache you'll see negative logs and people can read the logs to see who was FTF with no need to write it in stone on a cache page.

     

    I think owners should have a say what lists are displayed to stop the negative usage of lists from propagating. The lists can still exist so if someone is interested in one person's opinions they can easily look up their lists.

  7. Are there any plans to enable a cache owner to block a negative bookmark list from appearing on their cache page? It seems the original intent was to share caches that are cool to visit but now some are using them in other ways that don't seem appropriate.

  8. Wow, step away from the PC for a few minutes......

     

    Coins will be sent to:

     

    sillygirl & jrr

    glennk721

     

    Look for this coin in a cache near them soon!

     

    Many mahalos!

     

    Already decided the coin will start its journey here we didn't know motogrrl, but we think she would approve.

     

    Very cool! Good to see them spreading out around the world and traveling... she would definitely approve of the cache you have chosen <_<

  9. I drove the memorial geocoin effort with input from cachers in our local group; http://www.thegba.net. The intent was to get as many coins traveling as possible so that a large number of caches would have a motogrrl icon at any one time so the price was very low at only four bucks each. We thought getting a lot of coins out in the field would be a great way to memorialize Leigh Ann.

     

    We produced 1100 black nickel coins plus a few samples. The coins are trackable and will have a custom motogrrl icon that she designed herself ( on the back side of the coin, left picture in OP ) and have an MG tracking prefix. There were six samples made: two of which went to the family, two more went to locals, one for me and the final one will be a FTF prize for a local cache that will complete Leigh Ann's chess puzzle series.

     

    Many GBA members purchased them so I'm sure they will have some to trade but I believe most are just planning on releasing them so they do not sit in collections.

     

    I do not plan to trade any of my coins as I am not collecting anymore so they will all be released as travelers.

     

    A local cacher bought a large amount of coins to run a deal like the Sunshine Gang has done. You buy the coin but in order to not have the hassle of shipping the coins they'll be released locally and travel to you via cache <_< I'm sure they'll be posting soon since the cat is out of the bag now.

     

    Here's a link to Leigh Ann's memorial page.

  10. I've completely lost the desire to collect coins. Back in the day you knew you were buying coins at cost or just above. It is now blatantly obvious that people are out to cash in on the craze. I have a box of probably close to 100 spares sitting here and two binders with about 300 coins that I never look at. Unfortunately I don't even bother taking them to events anymore.

     

    I drop most of my GBA coin club coins in local caches or when I'm traveling since I'm not interested in trading for other coins anymore.

     

    To be honest I do plan to start selling off the whole collection soon to recoup my vast investment. I'll release the activated ones as travelers and I'll keep the special ones; local's, Moun10Bikes, oldies, GBA, ones that I found in caches etc.

     

    When I followed in ND's footsteps and fired up the GBA coin club there was a certain excitement to building up a collection of state coins and trying to trade for the older coins. You never felt like you were being overcharged on the early coins but as more and more coins were released at increasingly higher prices it became obvious that we were padding people's pockets and it quickly lost its allure.

     

    As others are doing, I'll produce my own coin soon but it won't be available for trade, it'll just be dropped in caches that I enjoy.

     

    Now back to planning that weekend hike :rolleyes:

  11. just a quick question for all in california....

     

    would you prefer a well defined 3-d coin on both sides or a coin with color?

     

    im thinking 1000 coins for regular

     

    + 100 LE silver and gold coins in 3-d

     

    I prefer a nice 3D coin over color. LE doesn't mean much to me. I'm only interested in these because they are CA coins.

  12. Here's my best one(TBMAMP)-- it was mailed over to Germany though to start it's journey so it not a true mileage total. I'm posting it since it is nice to see that a coin can travel to a bunch of caches(10 pages of logs) over close to a year and not disappear.

     

    Edit: Ooops just saw the first post with a restriction for releases this year so ignore this post :lol:

     

    TGE-GG Wisconsin coin - Jan 15, 2006 - 22,256.6 miles

    ICON HO!'s ParentsofSAM Geocoin - 3/24/06 - 20640.7 miles

    Plem45's Grand Experiment (1-1) German Geocoin 1/21/06 20,121 miles

    57Chevy's 2006 USA 1/15/06 13032.1 Miles

    Worldchampionship 2006 Geocoin - 03/03/06 - 11.303 miles

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #3 - 1/12/06 - 9639.2 miles

    Plem45's Grand Experiment (1-3) China Geocoin 1/21/06 9104 miles

    Bullit's Colorado Geocoin traveling Europe 7/19/2005 8323.7 miles

    TGE-GG BackBrakeBilly - Jan 15, 2006 - 8142 miles

    Go JayBee's Grand Experiment - ^V^ New York '05 - 31Jan06 - 7714.8mi

    Go Jaybee's Experiment - Damenace's Caching Around the World Geocoin - 01/21/06 - 7219.5 miles

    Go JayBee's Grand Experiment - ^V^ Iowa '05 - 31Jan06 - 6686.6mi

    Go Jaybee's Experiment - Damenace's Georgia Geocoin - 01/11/06 - 6012 miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #7 - 01/24/2006 - 5926.2 miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #25 - 2/2/06 5701 Miles

    Shilo's Phone-a-Friend Geocoin -3/17/06 - 5471.1mi

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #1 - 1/12/06 - 4929.4 miles

    Go JayBee's Experiment PoSAM's 2006 USA Geocoin #2 - 1/12/06 - 4916.9 miles

    AG's Traveling BikeDog Geocoin #2 - 4/7/2006 - 4783 miles

    AG's Traveling Balloon Geocoin - 4/6/06 - 4773 miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #24 - 2/2/06 4511 Miles

    SWMG GEO ENGLAND -3-1-2006 4343 Miles

    SWMG GEO ENGLAND 1 -3-1-2006 4341 Miles

    CR05 - Plem45's Finland Geocoin 2/5/06 4302 miles

    Serial Finder's Personal Geocoin #8 - 03/24/06 - 4143 Miles

    BadAndy's SS coin - 1/24/06 - 3742 miles

    Kealia's Maryland Coin - 2/19/06 - 3,612 miles

    CR40 - Plem45's Signal Geocoin - (Feb 06) - April 18, 2006 - 3474 miles

    Where is JoeMerchant? - #029 - 1/14/06 - 3350 Miles

    Team LightningBugs' 2006 Traveling USA Geocoin - 2986 miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #4 1/24/06 - 2,637 miles

    Serial Finder's Geocoin - 10/28/06 - 2522 Miles

    Mauison's New York Geocoin - 01/06/06 -2474 Miles

    Sawblade5's MIGO Geocoin 05 (MIGO Refurb 2005) - 1/17/2006 - 2366.1 mi

    Kealia/Hula Bum North Carolina Coin - 5/6/2206 - 2,321 miles

    AG's Traveling Camo Cache Coin - 2/1/2006 - 2174 miles ---> MIA sad.gif

    IceCreamMan's Personal Geocoin #13 - 1/14/06 - 1839 Miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #23 - 2/2/06 - 1866 miles

    IceCreamMan's Personal Geocoin #15 - 1/14/06 - 1764 Miles

    BadAndy's Krugerrandy #16 - 1/28/06 - 1473 miles

    CR20 - Plem45's Generic Geocoin (mini) 3/3/06 1458 miles

    RBC's California Micro #1 - 4/7/06 - 1040 miles

    Southbayday's Grand Canyon 2 - 2/1/06 1006 mi

    ScoutingWV World Traveler 1 - 2/26/06 - 851.5 miles

    Sawblade5's Frozen Bone Geocoin (Frozen Bone Bronze) - 1/17/2006 - 768.4 mi

    Tdecell’s Mississippi Geocoin #1551 – 743.3 miles

    Free's Pengy & Tigger coin released 28/2/2006 (or 2/28/2006 for everyone else since Im British) 262 miles

    Sundailman's March Goecoin CLub released 4-6-06: 218 miles

    Loggerhead LE: release 4-2-06 151 miles

    Sundialman's Earth Day Earth Geocoin released April 22, 2006 151 miles

    Shilo's Toronto 2006 Geocoin - 5/19/06: 101.1 miles

    NSLP Travelling China Coin: March 27, 2006: 95 mi

    Free's Lamppost Geocoin released 4/4/2006 93 miles

    Team Jsam 2006 CITO: released 4-21-06: 57.8 miles

    Finland Geocoin 3-10-06 37.4 miles

    Hogwild Cointown 3/7/06 26 miles

    Team Jsam Nevada 06: released 4-20-06 3.9 miles

  13. I received my pewter coin in trade from him last week. That completes a transaction that spanned 7 months. What a shame that people are still waiting for coins. Loridarlin let me know if you don't get them and I'll send you one since I still owe you :lol: Same goes to Geobrowns -- grab me at the next unevent.

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