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This was also discussed in a forum in which some reviewer in an arrogant way said that as long as he was there, one more business category would not be approved... and he had to shut his mouth because it was approved pancakes https://Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=6735dbf5-d4d1-4c75-b4e1-038e79a62d45 If you like a category, follow what the others follow; make a group, post in the forum and then vote. That kind of voting for new categories, which also brought its debates, is what is worth in the community to create categories, and not what you think about whether it is good or not, if it is educational, if it is stupid... (the Indian restaurants thing I already realized a year ago) that I took pictures in these restaurants and then I saw that I could not create them. What I like is that they are global and can be found almost everywhere in the world. I always complained that there are over 400 exclusive to North America. From these, except for the heritage categories, in which each country, area of the USA or Canada, or countries as a whole are logically excluded.

No, sorry, I refuse to bring this forum what has been closed in others or even censored. As well as explanations to our wayfrog. A little memory. Regards.

"I submitted a gazebo which has a square shape. Declined. Very fairly so as it says in the category that gazebos must be hexagonal or octagonal. What the heck!? I could give many more examples. So, talk about simplify, not complicate. " That sometimes depends on the reviewer who touches you. Thank goodness more reviewers are now being introduced in many categories. Now and there is less mafia in that subject and there are new nice reviewers. In gazebos, however if it is round you get approved. There are categories where it depends on who submits it is voted on or approved or denied, but that topic was talked about and censored in other forums. That said, now there are more reviewers (who are not those who have hundreds of categories) contributing. Which I love. Can we try to maintain "some" quality in Waymarking? This question is sometimes difficult and even seems to me a bit "false" at times. We can't have a party and a geocoin all happy because there were a million WM some time ago and then start to tighten categories to approve less WM or start to change and allow less things. Do you want quality or do you want 2 million? Is this professional? Does anyone get paid for it? Right now I see new people doing WM (and plenty of them in places like Spain, France, Netherlands, etc) who have been doing it for a long time and didn't get tired of it. So I don't think there is a loss of interest. In fact there are times when they say they want something more than geocaching.

welcome again

In Spain too

I thought the same. Some information before would be better.

Thank you @wayfrog for another day with your aproved (and declined :-))

Inconveniences? after all your work? Thank you and thank you.

fi67, I already told you privately what I had to say. Best regards. Now I add here: If someone needs to promote reviewers with few categories let me know. If at some point in WM if in WM want to promote people who review few categories, also. But even if it's not me there are many good reviewers with few categories that are worth promoting. If in WM people want to promote and centralize in few reviewers hundreds of categories, logically I am not available. I don't know, it must be what is called generational replacement...

Let's not get confused, the issue is not not not understanding how the votes work, it is the use of those votations.

No Scrogiell, is the sustem to vote for aprove and denied WM. But I read other forums and It isn't clear. Is difficult. But are other things...

Happy New Year! What @wayfrog also has to see is that there are categories in which there is only one active reviewer (or one that donesn't want/can aprove) and that if he post in the category a brand, as it looks ugly to approve it one itself, a (stupid vote when his WM is correct) is proposed and it is automatically approved with the reviewer vote. Apparently the "streaks" can more than wait for it to be published. I am less of three years ago and I don't understan the votations system and any things... fi67, I'm reviever only in police and giant letters. I offered my help by private few days ago. A greeting

Truth be told, in my other WM I wouldn't demand so many things. If you weren't in it, it would be great. I would only do a WM with good photos, if I put to vote or cancel published, I cancel all, not of who I want, etc. In that different WM the only thing that would be nice is if YOU were not in it. I liked WM when you didn't have so much power. Since then you are the only smug reviewer in the game. Goodbye, keep waiting for replies I'm not reading anymore.

I am sorry to break my word of not entering the forum, but I will make an exception to comment on my case. I asked wayfrog to include me in the "Accessible-Designed Recreational Locations" category to review the category, because of my professional background and for lending my help to a dead category that he had to approve for weeks. I subsequently volunteered for other smaller categories, also dead, where my help has not been forthcoming. Not only that, a new reviewer comes along who carries hundreds of categories. Now there are votes every two to three or deny WM asking for thousands of things that do not appear clearly or are the judgment of each one. Also voting to expel inactive members. Sorry, I will not participate in this mafia farce of professionalizing WM as if it was the life in them requesting doctorates for long description and four photos minimum. It seems there are those who are unclear about idle activity, and are passing it on and everyone nods. Therefore, I stop reviewing that category and if they introduce the same reviewer in Police Stations, also that one. I will think about Ginant letters later. Then we'll all be happy. I will still have time to create and the rest of the community to continue to deify that wayfrog2.0 so that he can continue to control everything in his own way.

Thank you fi67 for your contribution. If there is a need to remain a beginner, I will remain a beginner. The truth was more fun. When you talk about bending the laws, it's not totally the same. If a person creating a WM does not follow the rules, the WM is rejected "legally" and with the rules in hand. There is nothing to say there, I don't follow the laws. To think that a person who makes a post in a WM bends the law and thinks that it is going to be approved, seems to me to be a stupid, not a beginner. There have been conflicts over review issues. I was searching the forums yesterday because when I joined WM in July 2020 there was a big problem on the forum and I Thought that person could be crazy, but now I doubt. But I don't remember the name of the person who was speaking on behalf of three (I think it had the word wolf or lone, but not precise. A few months ago there was talk of censorship (and it wasn't me). If an officer does something illegal (or not fully legal) nothing happens, it's all wonderful and no problem at all. Bear, Thanks for saying to follow the rules and observe posted marks. I do it frequently even if the yardstick is not the same and I am denied a WM for some conditions that then another one is published. We could give you examples. That's why I asked if, as an officer, I could insist on asking for more things than I could ask for. But the question was already useless, depending on who you are, it can be done. I was checking the police category and when they sent me a blank "long description" and asked for content, it was not in the rules, and I could not ask them to put something. But other categories can ask for whatever they want. Anyway, I don't know what I have to justify, because the only problem I considered in the past, was ONE person. I don't consider reviewers or other people problematic. What happens is that I do not shut up and say it, and not by private as they have told me that I am right, and there is a reviewer who goes over the red line. I'm sorry about two things: the first is if my ways were rude, and the second is that among some the unjustifiable is justified. Finally I will say that I am leaving the forum. That I leave the forums for a long time, since they have only brought me problems. I will not see neither the response to this one, nor new category discussions, etc. Therefore, the same reviewer eager to be wayfrog2.0 and be able to do as he pleases and even remove me from the game, that approving me a WM sent me to this topic forum, please refrain from doing so again. I will continue to create in a beginner way (and if I feel like it) massive, to be denied for various reasons (arbitrary, bad photos, missing text, I want more photos than the mandatory, cover optional variables, because they tell me I'm looking for statistics, because they put it to vote, because it does not fit, etc, etc). fi67, I think of all the ones you denied me I only asked you about one bridge, the others are archived. If I gave you any problems I would like to know. I would like to ask barbershop, outspoken, scoogrie, jake, CADS, familyfronne, bench, graham, saopaolo, bluesnote, pmaupin, and a long etc (sorry for tipo mistakes and digits that aren't, but I write by memory) if we had a problem with a non published WM mine with them. But I don't do it, because I won't enter in this foro. Sorry for the English. DeepL transl. Regards and Goodbye

It's incredible: I asked in June 26 "can I or can't I ask for the not mandatory?" and answered one person. Now I wrote this post and in 7 minutes two answers (none for the question) What I said: there are topics that are more interesting for anyone... Well, I leave the subject, it is seen that only a few can complain. I will continue to create lots so that they also deny me lots.

It's okay to launch a forum about bad photos and give your opinion. It is also good to ask if as a reviewer you can ask for things that are not mandatory in the category and that only one person answers. Well, you know what I say, that sometimes the forums and the WM are better than the ability and wisdom of a reviewer, who says that wikipedia is important to demonstrate that something really exists, and that when wikipedia puts an artistic style on it, they deny it because he feels like it or says that he sends it to a vote when only he votes. The important thing for someone (well, really only for a reviewer) is to complain. Complain about everything. In addition, he likes from time to time (once a month) to deny some WM for no apparent reason (others, if the photo is diverted and the object is not in the center, if he is not able to find the information, if you take a photo from afar or close up...). I'm sorry for the other reviewers who are upset, but the others at their highest percentage are wonderful, and it's what encourages me to continue with this game. Then poor thing. He puts in the forum that he is afraid of denying a WM to someone, but he makes the noise... I'm sorry, but if I don't say it I'm going to bust and now I guess the thread will be censored.

Thanks, I sent but I don't know, isn't building...

Okay do not worry. I also offered myself for small categories and in which I could contribute and I had the same result. Sometimes wayfrog responded that there were active officers in the category. There are active officers sometimes, but they don't review. Other times those active officers have hundreds of categories, but the path of this game is that, dreamhummie. It also does not solve the problem that they put you in the Netherlands, since you cannot / must approve your own marks. The thing about being official to go up in the ranking, I didn't even think about it. The truth is that I thought it was altruistic to be a reviewer, do you know if they give bonuses or prizes? :-) It's a joke.

Only in Gothic? But if the thing is structure and religious (not building) ?

HI WM partners, Plateresque could be in some category?

Thank you FamilieFrohne, No, I have not had problems with a routemark of yours. It is only a question because here it was stated that the mandatory variables were not covered and in "big and voluminous" categories, sometimes you ask for what you want, and not what is in the category norms. I was just asking because in the two "small" categories that I approve of Police and Accessible, I have had problems due to being inherited, and some do not even ask for a long description, and if you request it, the person who sends it gets upset; but they ask me in others and I have to do them, or the WM is not approved. In any case, with the years that I have been here (although there are not many and Spanish colleagues already realized how WM works from the forums to approve Giant letters of Cities at that time). If you complain about a way or ways to proceed and approve/deny pathmarks of a reviewer in the forum, the forum is not for this, you complain, I don't know who, because that same person (it's kind of silly because to someone sometimes, not even putting the example of error in front of him acts.) The problem is between two (reviever and post), you don't have to complain to wayfrog either, you don't have to complain to anyone (since they get angry even the nice reviewers with whom you never had a problem); But yes, a reviewer or several reviewers can complain that brands are bad, lazy, bad photos, attacks, without the forum being closed. No wonder more than one person once said that this is like a "mafia." And I don't want to think that, because this is growing and it's a game. And, above all, I do not justify attacks or insults. But like I said, everyone has flippant comments to put up with, and we all make mistakes (reviewers and creators). In these three years I have noticed a difference in attitude in some reviewers. They no longer have that patience, pedagogy, etc. for which they stood out in my beginnings, in which if they denied you something they told you how to improve or in which category a WM could go. And when patience fails, the process fails. And it's not a language problem.

DAR category does not affect me (I was already shaking). I sent one from Spain that was rejected and I did not send more. That category for Spain is nothing, since there are only four DAR points and if mine was not admitted, there are three left. And crazy4horses was very kind to me and said that he would see what happened with that WM. On the subject of prolific waymarkers, I don't know if I'm among them, but I can tell that this must be the problem for some reviewers. Question the quality... anyway... I to my children's children (remembering these words that someone put here) I'm sorry, I show them my photos, not Waymarking... The reasons for denying WM because reviewer says that you are looking for statistics is not an ethical reason either. And since I put a colleague in accessibility (inherited category) yesterday because I asked him (please) to cover the optional variables (and I invited him to put the same thing he told me here): change the obligations in the categories or They cannot be requested. What are we left with, as a reviewer of 2 miserable categories, can I or can't I ask for the not mandatory? Please also expect an answer to this question from the reviewers who responded in this forum, because I don't know if I can to request that the non-mandatory be covered. For some categories is easy, But police stations category doesn't It says that you don't even cover the Long description. It seems good to me, a free debate forum in which reviewers who review dozens or hundreds of categories (some of a certain importance and volume of submissions) give their opinion and ask if the quality of Waymarking has decreased or not. The forums are free thought (at least for some topics). But getting to deny WM's for poor quality (as long as it is not the reason for inadmissible photos) seems absurd to me. That's why my question from before: Can a reviewer deny a WM because it doesn't cover optional variables, doesn't cover long description, or doesn't put more than one photo (which is the mandatory one). And I think that wayfrog should have put out an ad in which it was mandatory to create a WM two photos and minimal information, although the category does not put it. And of course, if there are attacks that are reported and action is taken. It's netiquette.

No, if I don't blame the tools. In any case, if someone has a manual for taking photos for Waymarking, I'll even download it from Amazon.