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Thank you "Marty" for your help! I don't know how that changed, again Thank you. why the other two could'd do that is beyound me.

Do you always pick on old people????? If you go to your page and click on "map it" A different type of map comes up; It's not the normal "Google Map" It's "Map Quest" Were are the normal google maps??

Went on the site to day, and clicked maps! The old maps showed up. Whats going on? Put back Google Maps!!!!! Bad Spellers of the world "UNTIE"

PLEASE!!! GET RID of these "CHALLANGE" Caches. (And I use that term loosely) Go nback to Virtual's!!!!!!! ASAP!!!!!

I shut down the computor, and restarted, Still show 2275 @ 1225hr, i logged 3 more caches and still shows 2275 and should show 2278. It always changed when I'm using field notes and go from i log to the other.

I tried refesh NADA, I went out then back in NATA, Did a few more caches (2 hr) It was up to date. Loged in the 3 new caches and still - 3. Sigh.

I just noticed that when I logged in two finds, that it didn't up date the number, but on the profile number it did.?? The stat page shows the right amount also.

We have been cacheing with our labs (4) for 3 years. We take them with us if we go early in the am. We let them run and explore all over. If we see people running or walking on the trails we call them and they come a running. They stay by us and if the people are dog friendly we let the take off again. If the people look aperhensive we always have tandem leaches with us. Never had a problem yet.

I now have the answer, and thank you all for the help.

Now I understand, and I thankyou for your expanation. It now makes sence. Now that I played around the "Waypoint" site my wife and I have a whole new world that opened up to . Again thank you for your help. Waymarks. In fact Virtual caches and EarthCaches should be moved to Waymarking as they are a better fit there. They aren't moved for a variety of reason. Virtuals were all over the place when they were allowed. That was part of the problem - they might be an historic site, one of geological significance, or just a funny sign or roadside curiosity. There was a lot of debate over what would make something "Wow" enough to warrant a virtual cache being placed there. Often people would hide a virtual cache where they could have hidden a physical cache nearby or used the virtual as a waypoint in a multi-cache that ended with a physical cache. By not allowing new virtual caches, geocachers are forced to do what they should have always been doing. Because virtuals have no "natural" Waymarking category moving them en masse to Waymarking is problematic, so instead they are grandfathered on Geocaching.com EarthCaches are actually administered by EarthCache.org. This is a separate website sponsored by the Geological Society of America. They have an agreement with Groundspeak to be listed on Geocaching.com. When Waymarking was intially launched, Earthcache.org agreed to moving EarthCaches to Waymarking. New EarthCache were listed there and plans were put in place to move the existing EarthCaches. But the EarthCachers rebelled and insisted that EarthCaches continued to be listed on Geoaching.com. I don't know the specifics, but my guess is that EarthCache.org pulled out the agreement with Groundspeak and said that they had to keep EarthCaches on Geocaching.com. The idea of HistoryCaches, as a counterpoint to EarthCaches, is brought up from time to time. It would have to entail an organization that promotes learning about history and visiting historic locations establishing such a cache type and getting Groundspeak to agree to list them. There will likely to be very strict guidelines as to what locations were historic enough, whether a plaque or marker is sufficient or must there be some artifacts to see, and something about visiting that would demonstrate a educational component. It would be very difficult to set up and probably harder to define than what is geologically significant enough to be an EarthCache. So my guess is it will never happen. On the other hand there are tons of history related Waymarking categories that will allow almost any historic site to be waymarked.

The way so far (2) are talking We should do away with Virtual, Earth, etc and move them to "waypoints"

Then are Virtual and Earth caches also WAYPOINTS???? Whats the difference??

Read what I wrote!!! I said like as in for example. Waypoints are new to me. Then why have ie VIRTUAL CACHES??? Or EARTH CACHES????? Are they also WAYPOINTS!

My wife and I where watching the "History Channel" and a thought came to us. A "History Cache". It could run somewhat like a Earthcach, but all based on places, or events made famous through history. A suggestion could be the great Pestigo, Wi fire. There is a grave site there that has only unknown bodys in it. How meany etc. One could take a picture and post it etc. Another could be in Gettysburg Pa The houses there that where standing at the time of the battle have brass plaques on the front or on the doors. You could e-mail the enfo to the cache owner etc. This is just a idia. What do others think??? kmhiker

I give! I use Explorer 8 sending worked yesterday, this morning NOT! Went to Firefox now works great! ???????

I to have a problem. It started this morning. I did the same thing, downloaded the update, and wham o nothing.

I bought a Garman GPSmap60CSx 1 month ago and I love it. Didn't take long for an old fart like me to understand it. You can't go wrong!!