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Ken in Regina

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  1. Thanks for the clarification, Mr. Green. I'll have to give it a whirl this week. I've already got a couple of GPX files with greens marked from Dan's site and have them loaded as custom POI databases. All I have to do is reload them into Mapsource, manually arrange the routing order and load the route onto my Legend to see if I like that better.



  2. iii) Open MapSource and enter the waypoints. Make a route with these waypoints (holes 1-18) and download the route to the Colorado.

    Okay, I've given this a bit more thought and I have some questions. When you create the route, surely you don't include every waypoint on the course in it? That would be tedious to set up and it would make a real mess on the screen, wouldn't it?


    Or are you just using, say, the middle of each green as the waypoints to include in the route?


    I assume you are manually setting the route to force the holes into the right order? There's no way any routing algorithm in Mapsource or my Legend will get it right if I let it autoroute, even in offroad mode.


    Do you include the tee boxes in your setup so that you have a route that resembles the course?


    Sorry for all the questions but as soon as I started to think about how to actually do all this they immediately all pop up. :) Since you've already got something working it seems smarter to pick your brain than waste what few working neurons I have left on the question. :D



  3. I haven’t used don barger’s site yet and it may be easier than my method. But what works for me…..


    i) Use Google Earth to locate the course and then mark waypoints along holes for what yardages I may want to know when I play the course (e.g. creeks, over/to sand, front/back of green).

    ii) Copy these waypoints into an Excel file to get them into a format that MapSource likes.

    iii) Open MapSource and enter the waypoints. Make a route with these waypoints (holes 1-18) and download the route to the Colorado.

    iv) At the course, use recreational profile, call up the route and use the ‘active’ route screen. Then simply set the format to yardages and scroll thru the waypoints you’ve made as they come up.


    I’ve done this for about 20 courses in and around the St. Louis area; as well as some courses I visit on vacation. Takes about an hour per course with about 50 waypoints and I haven’t had much of an issue with Google’s inaccuracy – yet (at least to where it affects my game).

    That (creating a route) gives me an idea for improving the way I'm using mine. I'll have to try it on the Legend HCx and see if it can be used the same way as on your Colorado. Can you tell me what the recreational profile is so I can see if there's some equivalent on my Legend HCx? Thanks.


    Now let me make a suggestion right back. Try using Don's page to get the waypoints. It works just as you're doing with Google Earth now except you end up creating a GPX file with all the waypoints in it. Each waypoint will have the name you have assigned to it (#1 Green Front, #1 To frwy bnkr, #2 Carry Crk, etc) as well as the coordinates already in the file. Mapsource is happy as a clam with the GPX file that Don's site creates. That will save you quite a bit of work, I think.


    Give it a whirl and see what you think.



  4. My OEM car mount broke, is there a better alternative for 60CSX?

    When you say "OEM mount" do you mean the Garmin mount that's designed for your unit?


    I'm using Garmin's mount for my Legend HCx and I love it. It's so much less intrusive than the RAM mounts and it just takes a second (literally) to clip in and out. I'm also using Garmin's handlebar mount on my mountain bike. It uses the same clip on the back of the Legend to clip in and out.



  5. If this is still an issue, I can't help regarding a Garmin if it does support something similar to which I describe below.

    While the DeLorme models also have this limitation of 10 tracks, as tracks,

    it is possible for those users to have many additional tracks displayed as Draw Layers.

    It's only an issue on the model that doesn't have external storage. The manufacturer has to decide what the limits will be for some stuff when there is a finite amount of memory to work with.


    All the other models with the micro-SD card storage will automatically save tracks to the card until the card is full. If you want loads of tracks just stick a 2GB or 4GB card in the device and you're good for life. :anibad:



  6. I would suggest you take a look at Garmin's Mapsource program. With it you can load maps onto your Vista. You can transfer waypoints, tracks and routes between your Vista and Mapsource on your laptop, both directions. You can print maps with routes on them and other such things.


    Check this discussion for a tip on how to install Garmin's MapSource program to use with the many free Garmin-compatible maps that are available on the internet. I'm talking about the legal free ones that are available from places like GPSFileDepot, etc., not the illegal ones that are available from various sources.


    Of course you can just buy a set of maps from Garmin and you will get the MapSource program included on the DVD with the maps. Just make sure you buy the DVD distribution and NOT the SD card or Download versions.


    Ooops, almost forgot ... MapSource runs fine under both Vista and Windows 7.



  7. Where possible (filesize is <8 MB) he has combined the 16 1:50000 maps into a single file. This cuts down on the number of map tiles that you need to upload.

    Thanks for explaining that. I was wondering why some tiles were 16 segments large but the scale seemed to be the same. I figured it must have something to do with the amount of detail because it's all large tiles out here on the Prairies but lots of areas in the mountains with small tiles. Now I know. Thanks.



  8. I'm glad to hear that people are using the GPX feature of the golf mapping web page. I actually haven't tried it (I like to use the full course map drawing).

    The thing I like about the GPX feature is that it's really easy to manually edit it to do things like combine files or correct the location data. I have a local course with three nines that are normally played in one of three 18 hole combinations. It was dead simple to create three GPX files for the three nines using your site and then combine them into the three 18 hole combinations. Before combining them I was able to manually edit the location data to reflect my actual surveyed locations.


    I've done some other things with them to expand them for more locations on each hole using the coordinates I've surveyed on the course with Intelligolf. It's more work than I really care to do, though.


    I've been trying to come up with a method to correct the inaccuracy that Google Maps has in some locations that Ken eluded to above. So far, it would involve a download program that would offset all the waypoints based on an actual waypoint from the course.


    I'll post it on the download page when I finish the programming.



    That would be wonderful, Don. I'll look forward to it. I've got half a dozen more courses I would like to get onto my eTrex Legend and it would be so much easier to use your web page to create the GPX files than the extra work it takes to get the coordinates from Intelligolf.


    I tried to figure out a correction factor but I haven't programmed in years ... decades, actually, so I would have had to cut/paste the coordinates from the original GPX file into a spreadsheet to do the correction and cut/paste back into the GPX file. It was less work to just use the existing location data from Intelligolf so I didn't bother trying to figure out the correction factor. And the correction factor would be different for each course so your solution is far superior.


    If you want some help testing please give me a shout. I've done years of alpha and beta testing for inhouse and commercial software of various kinds. I've also got half a dozen different local courses physically surveyed in Intelligolf for reference.


    And thanks for all your work on this so far.



  9. "Spanner" setting sends the GPS data stream out the USB port so you could use it as a receiver for your laptop with something like Garmin's Mobile PC or DeLorm Street Atlas, etc. I do this with my eTrex Legend HCx and my netbook sometimes. I have four good GPS receivers, two USB and two Bluetooth, and the Legend is better than all four of them, including the expensive Garmin GPS10x Bluetooth receiver.


    Probably a side effect of the Spanner setting is that it makes the USB port act like a real USB port so it will use the power leads (serial connectors have no power leads).



  10. I use Powerex 2700 mah chargeables by MAHA. I noticed a big difference is the charger they also sell is better as it charges the batteries individual instead of groups of two and four. I use the MH-C800S which charges up to eight cells at once. I also can quick check the level of the batteries in the charger before heading out, and weed out the weaker cells and use the recondition feature on the charger to try to fix the weaker ones.


    I use to use Engerizers & Rayovacs in the past, but buying a good charger makes a big difference.

    When I bought my Powerex MH-C9000 charger I also bought eight Powerex 2700mAh batteries.


    I love the charger. It works great with any brand of NiMH rechargables.


    I have had very inconsistent experience with the Powerex batteries. Some recharge back to full capacity easily by simply using the regular charge function. Some can only be brought to full capacity by running them through the refresh cycling. It's about 50/50. About half simply need recharging and about half will never just recharge; they need the refresh cycling.


    I'm going back to Sanyos. I've got some much older Sanyos and they're far more consistent. Going to give the Eneloops a try.



  11. I doubt if it will ever happen. The marketing gnomes at Garmin probably prefer to keep the seperate revenue flows from people being forced to buy two GPS devices, one for golf and one for navigation.


    In the mean time you might want to take a look at this thread:




    I used KMonster's procedure to get the golf information into my Legend HCx as custom POIs and it works really well for me. I'm sure you will be able to do the same thing with your Oregon.


    At least you could use your Oregon for yardages while you wait for Garmin to make the software available to add to a navigation GPS. :(


    If enough folks started doing this we could probably set up an exchange for surveyed courses for anyone else to use in the local area or those who are planning to travel.



  12. That round segment on the Garmin cables is probably a ferrite core. Those are usually installed to filter out interference signals. It is a much better quality cable but it's really only needed if you are having problems with interference on the standard cable (eg. connected programs complain about data errors).


    If you like the idea of a better quality cable you can use the Garmin cable for all your occasionally connected devices .. camera, GPS, whatever.



  13. Okay, I have a confession to make:


    I am an idiot!!


    I did all the testing I stated above. The only problem is that I did it with my Garmin GPS10x (Bluetooth receiver that does indeed do NMEA by default).


    I have also tested all those programs with my Legend HCx but I was using GPSGate Express when I did it. I just checked my netbook configuration and it has GPSGate installed. There's no need to use it with the GPS10x so the only reason I would have it there is for the Legend.


    I repeat I am an idiot!!


    My sincere apologies to Robert for contradicting him and to jb12string for misleading him about the eTrex and NMEA. (Perhaps we should shift the discussion to guitars instead of GPSs. I'm sure I can embarass myself just as well on that subject.)


    Sorry folks..... :(



  14. I just got the garmen etrax venture HC It does send NMEA via usb also but there was a setting in tools that you had to turn on. I have tested it with S&t and copilot

    Hi Tumbleweed,


    I can't find any setting on my Legend HCx. It seems like it just automatically sends NMEA over the USB connection and if the nav program requests Garmin protocol it will switch. If it has been sending Garmin protocol, like after it was being used with nRoute, then I have to power it off and back on to get it back to NMEA. Where in the menus did you find the setting on the Venture?



  15. The only concern I had was the output rating of 5v2a,so the 5v is standard but the 2amp could very is what I was thinking.

    The cheap generic AC adapter I have only outputs 5VDC at 500mA through its USB connector and that handles the Legend, so you shouldn't have any problem with the Tomtom adapter at 2A.



  16. Yes, all the USB specs are standard, including the voltages. If you are just using USB cables for the data connection you can use any standard USB cable you want. I've used many different ones to connect my Legend HCx to my desktop PC and to my laptop and netbook. I've got full length cables, shorter cables and even one of those retractable jobbies. All work fine for the data connection.


    That's not the issue you need to be concerned about.


    The issue re: powering using the USB cable is whether the power adapter is providing the correct voltage, or at least supplying voltage within the safe range for the device. It's also worth considering whether the power adapter is fused or otherwise protected against providing overvoltage spikes to the device.


    I believe the Garmin auto adapter has fusing or regulating or some sort of overvoltage protection in it. Many cheap ones do not. Your Tomtom adapter may be of good quality in that regard. You can get some idea by comparing the specs printed on your Tomtom adapter versus the specs published on Garmin's web site for theirs.


    Having said that, I have sometimes used a really cheap generic car adapter with my Legend HCx with no problems so far.



  17. I'm skeptical that Legend HCx outputs NMEA over USB. ...

    Did I not make it clear that I have actually tested my Legend HCx with all of the software I listed?


    If not, let me be explicit:


    I have personally tested the eTrex Legend HCx with:


    Microsoft Streets&Trips 2008

    Microsoft Mappoint 2009

    iNav iGuidance 2008

    DeLorme Street Atlas Plus 2008

    Geolife Navmii

    Garmin Mobile PC


    All of the above, except Garmin's Mobile PC, work flawlessly with the eTrex Legend HCx.


    The Legend HCx sends standard NMEA data through the USB port by default.


    It will also send Garmin protocol if the nav program requests it. I have tested with Garmin's nRoute program which only works with Garmin protocol. When the Legend HCx is connected and I run nRoute, the Legend HCx switches to Garmin protocol and nRoute works perfectly with it.


    I hope I made it more clear this time. This is not a matter for speculation. This is from actual use with all of these programs.


    ... That'd make it the only Garmin to do so.

    It is my understanding that many of the Garmin handhelds send NMEA through the USB connection. That would include most of the current eTrex models (Legend and Vista for sure, possibly Venture) as well as the GPSMAP 60CSx and 76CSx. I believe it may also include the Colorados, Oregons and Dakotas. I have not tested any of those but I have seen posts in this forum that lead me to believe they do.



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