Team Dragon

I'm glad to see caching in S'pore has taken off the way it has and I wish I had been able to contribute more than three. Ed, the Phoenix area certainly has taken the LUNCH (Lame Urban No-Thought Cache Hide) to extreme levels but there are a number of HIGHLY creative caches out there as well as solid rural caches. You may want to check out www.azgeocaching.com for a very active AZ Geocaching community complete with mailing list and web site with all sorts of sortable stats. There aren't many areas that provide a high number of caches that meet the desires for many types of people like AZ does. Sure, the LUNCHes aren't clever but they're often good for wheelchair bound people while the various mountains nearby have rugged terrain that will make you forget those five minute finds. If it weren't for the diving here in the Philippines, yes, a SCUBA cache is in the works, I'd be very jealous. As it is, I'm looking forward to seeing how caching has morphed since my last trip to S'pore. Don't let me down, guys!

I've never kept pencil wood submerged for a long time, I don't know the effects. I'd be afraid of a slate running out of room too quickly. There are a few companies that make waterproof paper for note taking underwater, here's one such product I'm considering for a cache in 80 feet. http://www.leisurepro.com/Prod/AQUSNP.html

Having owned a few international caches, we have a bit of experience with people running virtual bugs through them. I was originally amused to have someone running a virtual bug through a virtual cache as they were all notes. When the finds started popping up, they got deleted. I've gotten some pretty nasty emails from people on deleting their spurious find, to which I've always responded that we only accept real finds not fake and their log didn't seem like it was real. If they want credit, they'll have to submit to additional questions. I'll admit I was annoyed when Jeremy removed the top 10 TB milage ranking since mine was at the top when he did so. It was a personal bug that my daughter gave me during a year or so of actively travelling from the US to SE Asia and back and forth. The cat was to "keep me company and help find caches", so the TB tag seemed natural. But since fake logs by people who log caches without leaving home was the eventual result, the removal seems like a good idea in retrospect.

You can also make a container designed to be wet, which would probably be safer with a SCUBA cache instead of requiring a sawtooth profile.

You can find the location at the surface and search from there or you can mark a spot and use directions. GPS doesn't work unnderwater though.

Be careful with what you assume to be waterproof. Something with a tuperware style lid would be fine for a short duration in shallow water but it won't hold up as well over the long haul and won't work very well at all at any significant (10'+) depth. You may want to consider something with a more rigid lid. Those with a screw-on lid with a bit of a rubber seal at the top should work well even for SCUBA depths.

A bottle of water in a desert cache could be a lifesaver for someone who misjudged how much water they'd need. It's important to look at it regionally.

Read the guidelines for getting a cache listed here. Pay attention to the parts about virtual caches and commercial caches. Here is the one part that is sure to snag ya either way: Your idea is most certainly a commercial cache. Even unintentionally, it indirectly solicits customers for the private location. Also, since it IS possible to hide a physical cache underwater (mark the coords on the surface) you most likely would not get a virtual cache listed even if you resolve the commercial issue. Do a search of the forums and the website for "SCUBA" and you will find plenty of ideas and examples of viable ideas for a scuba cache. I think the key there is FOR PROFIT. Many locations will charge a fee for upkeep and are not for profit (I'm not saying that this is the case here, $17 to dive a lake is rather pricey). Diving in many Philippines Islands locations is like this, as are national forest fees. Naturally, an admin would have the last word but I'm of the opinion that an entry fee doesn't automatically exclude a cache from being listed. Best bet is to ask in advance. And if approved, be sure to list the fee in the cache listing. And make it real if at all possible

So we deliberately change what I said? No approval is needed to place a cache but experience shows what types of caches are permitted to be listed. The cache has now been approved and may be accessed via normal channels.

After finding over 100 I think I have a pretty good idea of the rules this site has regarding hiding caches. This cache is similar to many other urban caches we've hunted and there have been no rule changes regarding them. The area in question is not innundated with physical caches and it's away from the morass of virtual caches in the monument area. What if it isn't approved? Then it will be posted elsewhere. I would assume no one who is purely after numbers would hunt it until the page was up but people who like to hunt would.

For some reason, a cache that we placed in DC almost a week ago isn't being approved nor is an admin expressing concern. Since it's been two days since I emailed the admins and haven't received a response, I figured I'd at least post the cache here for locals to look for. Once it's approved, logs can be made online at GCGCTX. I Spy N 38° 54.073 W 077° 02.493 (WGS84) 3/1 "Queek Boris, hide the documents." "Moose and squirrel will never think to look here. Come Natasha, we must tell Fearless Leader they are ready." Downtown Washington is filled with virtual caches but because the National Parks Service won't allow physical caches, there aren't many actual log sheets. This is a physical cache that is not located on NPS land. This is a very busy area and finding and replacing the cache without observation are the biggest challenge. The difficulty is figured partly due to the safe finding and replacement but is otherwise handicap accessable. The cache does not contain a pen or pencil so be sure to bring one. The six clues below gradually point you to the cache. If you're stuck, decrypt a line to get you going again. The final hint indicates specifically where the cache is. If you're really stumped or don't have much time, then that's the one you'll want. Please allow for at least 15 minutes to be able to rehide the cache! Don't rush. V naq Rvtuggrragu Fgerrg ----- Pbzzhgr gur fragrapr ----- Sbhe jurryf ner snfgre guna abar ----- Gnxr n ybnq bss ----- Gur evtug vf pheeragyl va pbageby ----- Haqre gur ohf orapu npebff sebz gur zrgeb. Gur pnpur vf na Nygbvqf gva fghpx jvgu zntargf haqre gur fvqr pybfrfg gb gur nqf

Didn't vote because there wasn't a choice for "I'm fine with unpirated software and music"

Since increasing space, bandwidth and processing all cost money, subscribing is one way to encourage Jeremy to allow larger file sizes.

There are many types of icons that people would find useful. icons to show a park is dog or other animal friendly, handicap accessable, night caching allowed, etc. The problem is that there are so many choices that once that path is used, it's hard not to use it again and again an soon you have a ton of icons you have no clue what the meaning is. Another problem is the fact that there's no definition of a "kid". Some would want 3s, others 5-6. Since a kid-friendly icon learn about the overall difficulty and terrain indicators and what the different levels are. The official system can be found at http://www.clayjar.com/gcrs/. Encourage its use on local caches so there is consistency. Finally, the thing I found most useful at the beginning was not to take my daughter on all the hunts. Find some you think your sone may like then do them yourself. Once you know where it is and that the cache does exist, bring him along and go through the motions. Monitor his reaction during the hunt and get him closer and closer before HE finds it.

They can be found online, he'd just have to pay for the shipping as well.

quote:Someone could buy an FRS/GMRS radio and have no intentions of licensing and stay legal only uses the FRS-only frequencies. Of course, one has to ask why buy the FRS/GMRS rubber duck unit when you could get just the FRS unit for half, but still. Sorry but that's wrong. A GMRS radio not only has some different frequencies but transmits at a higher power; 2w instead of 1/2w. Because of this, if you're using a GMRS radio, no matter what frequency you're using, you must be licensed or are violating federal law.

Both Netscape and IE were pushing ahead of the standards. And when someone has problems with an old browser and moves to a newer one, it doesn't mean that IE is better than Netscape, it means that the newer is better than the old. I've never heard a Mozilla user say they were going to switch to IE.

Not touching the issue of "countries" that aren't countries, although Hong Kong certainly belonghs on that list too, it seems like the real countries missing caches are primarily in Africa. Digging through the list of countries that do have caches, I see the following are missing: Algeria, Eretrea, Togo, Ghana, The Gamba, Mauritania, Gabon, Equitorial Guinea, Congo, Dem. Rep. of Congo and Lesotho. I'm sure there are others I just didn't think about.

I've moved from Arizona (more caches than you can shake a stick at), to the DC area to northern VA and will be moving to a country in Europe, one that doesn't have many caches, in the fall. The number of caches just keeps dropping.

I don't think that you can sign over an experience. Groundspeak owns the way each cache page looks and feels and the content on the page as a whole. As was stated, this helps stop someone from copying the page and selling it for their own purpose. A case can even be made for ownership of the individual cache entries but it's not the words that really matter, but the experience. There's nothing that can prevent me, as owner of the experience and original author, from posting that where I wish, as long as the provider of the target site gives permission.

quote: I wonder: is there any country where GPSr is illegal for the general population, or for visitors, to use? If so, it would be darn difficult to register or find a geocache. Russia That hasn't stopped some people from hiding caches there but I hope anyone caught with a GPSr has diplomatic immunity... they'll probably need it.

I visited a few areas I doubt I would have gone to otherwise because a cache was there. When you place a cache outside the central parts of the city, the only thing I ask is that you also provide some transit information for tourists who otherwise may not have a clue how to get there. For instance, a nearby bus route.

Someone who just found out about Geocaching may come to the site just to see if there are any near them. If they needed coords, they wouldn't be able to tell.

Thanks for the comments. It had been 11 days so far but it's not really a problem. I was just concerned that there may have been something that I was supposed to be doing that I hadn't discerned. I am the owner of the caches in question and each emailed request had a CC to the person who would be taking it over. Heidi got one of the two switched, which I'm thankful for. I'm sure the other will happen when someone's able to get to it.

I'm trying to get a couple of caches transfered to new owners. I sent in the requests to the contact@Groundspeak.com address as stated in the FAQ and got an autoresponse but nothing else happened. A week later I sent in a request to look into the status of the other two requests and got an autoresponse but again, nothing else. Should I be sending the request somewhere else? Has there been a problem lately with the contact email address?