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If God had meant for us to fly he would have given us wings.

Oh yes .. this thing sucks. I could see the value of it if I were doing the automotive portion of the cache and am about to drive by the area. But when I am walking to the cache site I know my proximity. Oh well .. probably another feature that seemed good on paper, and maybe some have found it useful.

Grrrrrr .. don't get me started. hehe

I want to thank the ones who have come here to post constructive posts. Some of you read what I wrote and didn't go off on tangents and personal attacks. To the others ... apparently you have somebody's ear or maybe you took the suggestion of sending them cookies. How can a post like this remain in this discussion: While ones defending me like this are deleted: I am a big boy and can take the personal attacks; I've been getting them my entire life. These have been stepped up now that people have the ability to cower behind a computer screen. I do take issue with the elitism the top poster displayed that went unchecked and the deletion of the second post that defended me. They used identical words and tone and only one gets a slap on the hand.

Groundspeak has asked us not to unarchive caches that have been archived for a long time. A couple of months is OK; a couple of years, not so much so. The caches were submitted 206 feet apart. Even in very cache dense areas, we strive to stay close to the 528 foot minimum. Reviewers do have a lot of discretion; I published one today in a cemetery that was 480 feet from a cache in a neighboring park. But, I haven't seen any exceptions granted at a distance of 200 feet. If it happens, it's either grandfathered from a long time ago, or the owner moved a cache after publication, or the reviewer missed it, or the caches qualify for an exception based on a physical barrier like a cliff or river. I didn't see a basis for an exception here. As an alternative, consider featuring one of the two spots as a virtual waypoint in a multicache. Virtual stages of multis are exempt from the 528 foot guideline. Have the cacher collect information from signs, etc., at that spot, which help determine the coords for a physical cache hidden a safe distance away. You submitted the cache May 4th; the reviewer asked two questions on May 5th; you replied the same day and the cache was published by the end of the day on May 5th. What's the problem? Both of the reviewer's observations were valid questions. The cache was close to private property, and caches with a one-star terrain rating ought to be wheelchair accessible. The cache coordinates look to be about 40 feet from the tracks. Our minimum is 150 feet unless the hider can demonstrate a basis to overcome that presumption. Either move your cache 100 feet, or show that the cache isn't on the right of way and is physically separated from the right of way so folks don't trespass there. Permission from the park is a good way to demonstrate this. The vast majority of geocaches are published on the first review with no back and forth. They meet the guidelines. We LOVE publishing caches that meet the guidelines. And when they don't, we are happy to work with the owners to get them compliant. I encourage you to keep hiding caches, but with an eye on the guidelines. Thank you for the response Keystone; I really appreciate it. I guess I should have made some of these concerns multiple threads. The first one was more me questioning why we have the guideline of not being able to unarchive geocaches we have owned in the past that we replace in the same spot, not criticizing the reviewer who prevented it. On the 4th one I guess I should have posted a picture showing the very steep hill, trees, and creek separating the cache area from the railroad.

Actually I am wondering why the guidelines aren't applying universally to all the caches I encounter. Also the word 'guideline' seems rather vague .. almost like 'suggestion.' From what I have encountered with other caches is that at times they are simply suggestions. I know without the ability to physically check all caches the reviewer's hands are somewhat tied, but I wanted to know if others have had these experiences as well. Also I wouldn't want these other caches to be removed either.

I understand that, I just don't understand what the problem is preventing them from un-archiving the original .. since I was the one who placed it. I was simply away from the geocaching world for a while. Well, we are nowhere near saturated. There are 5 geocaches in the city limits of Somerset and one of them is about to be archived. As much as I detest micros I wanted to bring people to some special areas in downtown Somerset. These two caches were one honoring our POW soldiers and the second one honoring one of our native sons. Yes I am, with every cache.

I've not tried the ones Red90 has mentioned. However, City Navigator NT has totally revamped my geocaching. Even with some of the bugs that will be fixed in firmware updates, being able to drive with road guidance to the cache area, getting out of my car and then using the geocaching profile to take me through the hiking portion, has been a dream come true. (Sorry for the runon sentence) If Garmin offered a free trial on City Navigator a lot of people would see how crucial it is to the geocaching experience.

Good idea .. I'll place them in my next cache next to the fireworks and controlled substances.

Oh good grief .. and so it begins. You totally skipped the part where I said I appreciate the work our reviewers do and I praised them for being polite. I place geocaches in my small town because I want to bring people here. I want them to see some of the areas I have come to appreciate. I want new cachers here to have caches to go to and not have to travel a long way. If I was entitlement minded I wouldn't be going through the hassle of buying cans, cleaning and painting them, buying swag, finding an area and placing a cache. I want to place quality caches that people will find enjoyable and will have stories to tell about.

However this is placed on property the railroad doesn't own. My cousin used to live in a house this close to the railroad. It shook the house something awful when I train came through. By this line of thinking .. he could be carted off to jail for simply having ammo boxes on his back porch on land he owned. I understand the railroad owning land to both sides of the track .. I am talking about the land they don't own. Heck, come to think about it .. there are houses this close to the railroad in question. On the road into this cache there are houses right next to the track. Some of these houses are pretty run down with a lot of garbage outside. I've seen several paint cans out there but not any ammo boxes yet. Could these people be carted off to jail as well? I'm sorry but this doesn't compute with this country boy. When I went to school kids could drive trucks with shotguns in their window and leave their truck unlocked in the school parking lot. I remember sitting in class and watching someone walk down the street with a shotgun and not get stopped.

I didn't want this to go into a death spiral. I have seen how easily that can happen here. Certain people on here just love to get into verbal fights. That is why I made sure to praise our reviewers for the hard work they do for free. I simply want to know if there are easier ways to get things approved or if we have had different experiences.

Here is a local one that is about to be archived: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...f1-96a7bd0042ea I have visited this one and it is fine. I wrote this in a note on the cache page. However, in a few days we will have one less geocache to find here.

Let me first say I realize the reviewers for our caches are volunteers. They do a great job and have been very timely with their work. They have also been very polite when they have not allowed my geocaches. However, I am finding that every geocache I try to place gets flagged even though I leave detail in the reviewer's notes. Is this common practice? Some examples: 1) I couldn't get my Up in a Holler 1 cache http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...bc-5db5d2007406 unarchived, even though I was the original owner, so I had to make a second one right on the spot of the old one. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...b5-4021b38ebe23 I hated that the old 'finds' won't be connected to these newer ones, even though it is the same geocache. 2) Our town here is very small and with the distance restraints it doesn't allow for many caches to be placed here. I placed two micros in one day. I had to archive http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...22-c4b64437cfbc in order to keep my other one: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...75-f19790e822c2 I have been to other cache areas that have 3 caches right on top of each other. 3) I had to try a couple of times to get this one listed: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...63-241bd861eb18 I originally stated it was next to a creek not on private property. 4) And the past couple of days I have been trying to get this one listed: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...05-4c3d807d33e7 It is on public land that my donations paid for. I was actually the vice president and president for the associational youth rallies that developed this land. Because there is an old railway up on a hill past a creek, I can't place a geocache on this land. I try to place geocaches that I would personally like to find. I want to bring people to areas they would have never seen otherwise. But if it continues to be this difficult to get them placed I'll eventually lose interest. What have your experiences been like? Is this normal?

Major beef of mine as well, the base maps' roads should be accurate. In order to have accurate road maps and also be able to more easily use your GPS during the automotive portion of your hunt you will need City Navigator NT.

I would also be afraid of geocaches being on their endangered species list with too many of these weekends. When I first started geocaching in 2004 there were 3 geocaches here. 3! Now there are probably less than 20 caches in my county. With gas at $4 a gallon less of us will have the luxury of driving 3 hours to the closest big city for geocaching blitzs. I would be totally depressed to find out I had nowhere to geocache for the next several months because I blew through them too fast.

Lovely. I'd bet if it was a less intimidating, cute, furry animal with big sad eyes, you would let it cross the road. On topic: Snake looks real to me. Just give him some time, and he'll go on his way, then come back and claim your cache. Well since said cute animal isn't a threat to me or my family .. probably. But finding poisonous snakes mere feet from my parents' house on several occasions and one inside my house ... um not on your life. I do the same to the black widows and brown recluse spiders I find near and in my house as well. Call me crazy but I have this strange desire for survival. I can see your point on one being in your house, or close proximity around a house with children. Same as if a criminal breaks into your home, you should have the right pop a cap in their butt. I guess using your theory, though, if I see a person crossing the road who looks like someone that has broken into my house, even though they haven't, I should be able to shoot them as well. If I saw them running away with my new Garmin Colorado in their hands I would shoot first and ask questions later. Nice stat page you have on your profile, by the way. Trying to figure out how to set one up for myself. My inner geek is pleased when I look at it.

Lovely. I'd bet if it was a less intimidating, cute, furry animal with big sad eyes, you would let it cross the road. On topic: Snake looks real to me. Just give him some time, and he'll go on his way, then come back and claim your cache. Well since said cute animal isn't a threat to me or my family .. probably. But finding poisonous snakes mere feet from my parents' house on several occasions and one inside my house ... um not on your life. I do the same to the black widows and brown recluse spiders I find near and in my house as well. Call me crazy but I have this strange desire for survival.

Double post

I have only 30 finds and have no scratches on my Colorado 400t at all. When I get to 3100 finds I won't have any scratches either. In fact, when I am ready to toss my Colorado for the voice activated, touch screen, mp3 playing, GPSr with up to 1 inch accuracy I will get sometime in the future .. I will still have no scratches on mine. I have owned 2 pocket pcs and screen protectors have been invaluable to me. I didn't use one for my ipod and after 2 years it looks awful. I don't notice any 'screen darkening' from using the invisishield on my Colorado. The shields are completely clear, thus there is no darkening. The only drawback is that it makes it a little more shinier from certain angles. I use the carabiner as well but still would risk screen scratching from climbing through briars and brush we are plagued with the caches around here. When I am very close to the cache I place my Colorado in my backpack in one of the side mesh pockets. I face the screen towards the pack. This combination with the screen protector has worked well for me.

My luck, you jokers posted the wrong size cache on this one. I will go out thinking I am about to find Angelina and then happen upon this: [image removed by moderator] Sorry about that. I didn't think the picture I posted here was offensive at all. It was picture I have seen duplicated all over the net of a rather large guy sitting in his underwear at his computer. The picture is from the side and doesn't show anything offensive besides a rather large guy. I have seen people here sitting on their porch like that. Sorry if I offended anyone.

How do you couple the two devices? I use i-navigator on my pockept pc phone for most of my non-geocaching travel. I would find it difficult finding a nearby address to point my pocket pc to. Now that I have my ram mount I use my colorado the whole way. (Just waiting for night display settings and a better way to store favorites like my home so it always is displayed on the top of the list)

Yes... Note that there are 5 different navigation screens within the "Geocaching Mode". You can see them all here: http://garmincolorado.wikispaces.com/Geocaching None of them auto-route at the moment. You need to choose "goto location" which takes you to the "map" screen, which can be set to auto-route. This is the whole problem and the main point for this thread. And now we are on the same page. Thank you very much. Here's for hoping this next update will be a big one. This fix coupled with automatic map switching would be great. (But I still wish we could have a topomap/automotive map hybrid .. oh well)

Check out the FAQ - G17 - that will show you the screen you can 'click' or 'enter' to get to the description - hopefully then we're on the same page! Ah ha!!I I found the problem. You navigate from this screen: I assumed that was simply a summary of the cache and from here you had to go to Options and then Go to location. I see how you can navigate from the above screen now. Problem now is how do I get it to do the automotive portion? When I change profiles it doesn't hang onto this target location unless I go to Options and then Go to location.

I hope you didn't miss this: if you're actively searching for a cache in geocaching mode, you can press the scroll wheel button to see the description. That would be awesome ... but I just tried it and it didn't seem to work. Maybe we are using different terms. I list the geocaches .. then click options .. then click go to location. I am hitting my scroll wheel button but it isn't doing anything but beeping.